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2 minutes ago, KegCity said:

Why would we play someone who doesn't want to be here and doesn't work for the team? 

We don't know for sure that he didn't want to be here: it's Nigel's version. Anyway, I'm OK with him going, but the memory of last season's injury crisis is still fresh, so fear we could be in trouble again in case of further injuries. Hopefully we',ll be less unlucky...

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16 minutes ago, Dan Robin said:

Loaning out Bakinson and losing King for injury some days later... 😬

Getting  rid of Bakinson was right whoever gets injured. Why keep a player who does not to play for us. Pick one of the young lads who wants to play for the shirt.

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20 minutes ago, Dan Robin said:

We don't know for sure that he didn't want to be here: it's Nigel's version. Anyway, I'm OK with him going, but the memory of last season's injury crisis is still fresh, so fear we could be in trouble again in case of further injuries. Hopefully we',ll be less unlucky...

Strange thing to make up and he said on Instagram that “the feelings mutual” when a fan told him to leave. So pretty sure we do know.

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19 minutes ago, Redrascal2 said:

Getting  rid of Bakinson was right whoever gets injured. Why keep a player who does not to play for us. Pick one of the young lads who wants to play for the shirt.

Sigh !

More "getting rid"  nonsense.

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Many problems in defence, but even in midfield we don't have so many ''reliable'' options: Scott often has to play RWB because we don't have Tanner, Dasilva as second choice on the right leaves O'Dowda without an alternative on the left (Benarous adapted there?), Williams is Williams (available for a few games in the best case scenario?) and we don't know if James will be 100% fit soon.

 

.................O'Leary
.................(Bentley)
                                            
............Vyner..Kalas..Pring
..........(   -   )(   -   )(Towler)

                                                                              
....Scott...Massengo...James?...O'Dowda
 (Dasilva)(Williams?)(   -    )(Benarous)

.......................Weimann
........................(Palmer)
                                                                                           
.............Martin..Semenyo
.................(Wells)(Conway)
 


Out now: Baker (probably won't play again this season), Tanner (2 months?), Atkinson (?), Simpson (still a player to consider?), Cundy (untested at this level), King (?).

 

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8 hours ago, Numero Uno said:

Doesn’t matter, he’s gone and it has to be better to concentrate on the players who gave it their all yesterday,

OK fine.

As long as you know the manager knew he didn't want to be here and played him anyway.

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12 minutes ago, VT05763 said:

OK fine.

As long as you know the manager knew he didn't want to be here and played him anyway.

Not going to labour the point but it is entirely possible those 14 minutes that Bakinson was given the opportunity to play at Fulham were the straw that broke the camel's back for Nigel Pearson where Tyreeq Bakinson was concerned. It might only be 14 minutes plus another 4-5 injury time but that is irrelevant, Tyreeq is a professional footballer and he is meant to put a shift in..............in all circumstances. Maybe Nige sent him on hoping to see some evidence of the lad wanting to fight his way into a starting berth the following week and, instead, what he saw confirmed to him that the kid had no intention of committing to the plan in the way others have.........Zak Vyner as a good example who has not been playing to the best of his ability, gets dropped on Saturday but then comes on unexpectedly, was ready and willing and had one of his better games this season. That's the attitude "when the going gets tough" that I can only assume Pearson wants to see from his players.

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31 minutes ago, Numero Uno said:

Not going to labour the point but it is entirely possible those 14 minutes that Bakinson was given the opportunity to play at Fulham were the straw that broke the camel's back for Nigel Pearson where Tyreeq Bakinson was concerned. It might only be 14 minutes plus another 4-5 injury time but that is irrelevant, Tyreeq is a professional footballer and he is meant to put a shift in..............in all circumstances. Maybe Nige sent him on hoping to see some evidence of the lad wanting to fight his way into a starting berth the following week and, instead, what he saw confirmed to him that the kid had no intention of committing to the plan in the way others have.........Zak Vyner as a good example who has not been playing to the best of his ability, gets dropped on Saturday but then comes on unexpectedly, was ready and willing and had one of his better games this season. That's the attitude "when the going gets tough" that I can only assume Pearson wants to see from his players.

Bakinson wanted to leave before the Fulham game, which is fine as long as the manager doesn't say that he only plays players who want to be here.

You are spot with Vyner though. (not sure he was dropped)

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2 hours ago, VT05763 said:

OK fine.

As long as you know the manager knew he didn't want to be here and played him anyway.

 

1 hour ago, VT05763 said:

Bakinson wanted to leave before the Fulham game, which is fine as long as the manager doesn't say that he only plays players who want to be here.

You are spot with Vyner though. (not sure he was dropped)

He hasn’t ever said that, in fact he’s said the opposite….(paraphrased) whilst they are employed by the football club, if he wants to / needs to use a player, he will - that is what he’s said, because we run a trim squad.  It’s why Kasey Palmer was in the squad for Fulham, like Bakinson.  In a period when we were without two, if not all of King, James and Williams, he used Bakinson then.

It really doesn’t make a difference whether Tyreeq wanted to leave or not, nor for how long he’s wanted to leave.  The fact is until another club come in with an acceptable offer to take him off our hands (loan or perm) within a transfer window, then Nige will pick him if he wants to / needs to, and feels it’s not detrimental to the overall objective.

Eventually Ipswich made that offer, he left.  We will have to take Nige’s word that it happened quickly.

You really are putting too much emphasis on “it was Tyreeq who wanted to leave”.  We all get that.  We all know contractually he has to agree…that is not the point anyone is arguing over the last few pages.

Why do so many of your posts have a little undercurrent of a dig at Nige?  What is your beef with him, and what is your reason for that?

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, VT05763 said:

OK fine.

As long as you know the manager knew he didn't want to be here and played him anyway.

Some bizarre posts. Why not just say what you really think of Pearson, or what he is doing wrong as a manager? All of these little digs just come across as pathetic and childish, with no balls to actually come out and say exactly what you are thinking.

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Our awful injury rate in the latter days of Johnson and during Holden’s tenure were very much put down to poor practice within the club, but we seem to be in the same situation now.  I thought we had sorted this with significant changes to the medical team, but we seem to be getting the same high level of non-contact muscle injuries.  As the question was being asked two or three years ago, can this really be put down just to bad luck?

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