Silvio Dante Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 We’re going up next season. I know this was a three year plan, and we’re 1/3 through it. But I think it’s accelerating. Nobody could have believed Alex Scott would come in and be a top class Championship CM after this long. Massengo maybe, but his trajectory is off the chart. Nobody at the start of this season thought Semenyo could be a beast up front. Nobody at the start of this season thought Pring, excepting an error today, could be this good. Nobody saw Benarous coming. We’re currently at 18 months stage when we should be at 9. Check the trajectory. It’s insane. All we need is maturity, and that comes with games, which is happening. A couple of smart additions and we’re there. We’ve just dominated 3 games on the bounce. But more than that, it’s the thinking of where we were in November. Its clicking. it’s coming. Put your tenners on. 4 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedNachos Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 Love your ambition, but we need a sense of realism, I'd be content with a top half finish next season, but can sort of see where you're coming from. We need to go up in the next few seasons, or we won't in the next 30 years for me. It's a weak division, so can see some curveball promotions coming in the not so distant future, but please don't make this the expectation at the club. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marmite Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 More water with it Silvio! Seriously though I think our improvement is immense. We could wipe out our debt in the summer but I hope we retain and add what's needed. If we do, that tenner might not sound such a bad idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 Way too early to say but some encouraging signs. Relies on us keeping our best players and replacing dross like COD with cheap gems. I’d be hoping for top 10 next season though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 (edited) Don't forget we could well start next season on -9. Huge improvements made under big Nige though. Edited January 29, 2022 by Ska Junkie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Exile Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 I don't think we are going up next season - but then I never do. I am, however, perfectly happy to be convinced! Today's performance was full of promise (if rather deflating - as ever). Thank you for raising my spirits! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 (edited) Now hang on. We've improved yes, but I personally don't see anything to indicate a promotion push next season. If you're saying you honestly think we'll be better than two of Burnley, Newcastle, Norwich, Watford and whoever stays in our division then I'll say you're more than generously optimistic. Top ten, top 6 with a fair wind and some competent refereeing, is what I'm looking at next season. Edited January 29, 2022 by ExiledAjax 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyClapper Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 1 minute ago, Ska Junkie said: Don't forget we could well start next season on -9. How?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 1 minute ago, HappyClapper said: How?? FFP, isn't that what Richard Gould intimated? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted January 29, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 I think my logic here is twofold - momentum and talent. We’ve “turned the ship around”. The momentum is forward, undoubtedly. You see this in less talented squads - momentum, and teamwork, is key. You only have to look at GJ in 2008 for that. Momentum takes you high. So, talent. I genuinely don’t believe there is a better 3 in midfield at this level than Scott, Massengo and Williams. I think Semenyo has potential to be top level. Kalas is top six. Bentley is better than Max and is top 10. Weimanns goals put him top level this year, before you add the team value. The fact is you don’t need the best 11 players to go up. You need 5/6 well managed and supported. We have that. (and no, I’m not drunk. I’ve seen this coming for a few weeks, but bizarrely a loss to Luton and draw vs Preston tipped me over the edge) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 10 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: We’re going up next season. I know this was a three year plan, and we’re 1/3 through it. But I think it’s accelerating. Nobody could have believed Alex Scott would come in and be a top class Championship CM after this long. Massengo maybe, but his trajectory is off the chart. Nobody at the start of this season thought Semenyo could be a beast up front. Nobody at the start of this season thought Pring, excepting an error today, could be this good. Nobody saw Benarous coming. We’re currently at 18 months stage when we should be at 9. Check the trajectory. It’s insane. All we need is maturity, and that comes with games, which is happening. A couple of smart additions and we’re there. We’ve just dominated 3 games on the bounce. But more than that, it’s the thinking of where we were in November. Its clicking. it’s coming. Put your tenners on. It’s called recognising that a rebuild is going on, and showing patience. It’s about recognising there will be bumps in the road, disappointing results and performances, whilst not being dragged into seeing just negatives because of results and performances. Imagine we’d sacked Nige in Oct / Nov like quite a few wanted, or thought should happen even if they didn’t want that to happen per se. (I know you know that) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 6 minutes ago, Ska Junkie said: Don't forget we could well start next season on -9. Huge improvements made under big Nige though. No we can’t. We haven’t broken FFP, nor will we for the cycle ending 2021/22 (this season). We could be over in the cycle ending 2022/23, but we have 9, 12, 15 months to clear what is likely to be a small amount over £39m. Certainly not minus 9….nowhere near that. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 Just now, Davefevs said: No we can’t. We haven’t broken FFP, nor will we for the cycle ending 2021/22 (this season). We could be over in the cycle ending 2022/23, but we have 9, 12, 15 months to clear what is likely to be a small amount over £39m. Certainly not minus 9….nowhere near that. Thanks Fevs, I bow to your vastly superior knowledge. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 20 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: We’re going up next season. I know this was a three year plan, and we’re 1/3 through it. But I think it’s accelerating. Nobody could have believed Alex Scott would come in and be a top class Championship CM after this long. Massengo maybe, but his trajectory is off the chart. Nobody at the start of this season thought Semenyo could be a beast up front. Nobody at the start of this season thought Pring, excepting an error today, could be this good. Nobody saw Benarous coming. We’re currently at 18 months stage when we should be at 9. Check the trajectory. It’s insane. All we need is maturity, and that comes with games, which is happening. A couple of smart additions and we’re there. We’ve just dominated 3 games on the bounce. But more than that, it’s the thinking of where we were in November. Its clicking. it’s coming. Put your tenners on. Love the enthusiasm. Also love the predictable responses. But for a tenner I mate have a punt! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAmNick Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 13 minutes ago, HappyClapper said: How?? To give the others a chance 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted January 29, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 1 minute ago, Davefevs said: No we can’t. We haven’t broken FFP, nor will we for the cycle ending 2021/22 (this season). We could be over in the cycle ending 2022/23, but we have 9, 12, 15 months to clear what is likely to be a small amount over £39m. Certainly not minus 9….nowhere near that. Which again, is why I think we go for it. Not by overspending, but retaining and adding sensibly. @Steve Watts will tell you I called Scott’s value months ago. He’s £20m. Easily. It’s chicken feed for some prem clubs for an 18 year old in the international setup with (what he will have) of 40 games and combined double digits assists/goals at Champ. That’s Spurs catnip. And it will be in a year. But if we retain him for a year that value doesn’t drop. And FFP is still not a problem. So we go for it next year, as opposed to selling. It’s totally set up for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityexile Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 I would settle for the Brighton projectory. Avoid relegation, play offs, third year up. Injuries, selling players, players just leave, but we are so much better to watch, and there is...hope? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAmNick Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 (edited) Think this summer will be massive. We have to accept a few will probably leave, and we just have to hope they're ones who most of us think won't be too detrimental to the long term goal - O'Dowda, Wells, Palmer, Moore, etc. We'll of course get a few in, but I'm personally not expecting many who will be ready to go on day 1. Maybe a couple of frees very similar to Klose - but they can be pretty hit and miss as we well know. Then a couple of youngsters from lower leagues, your Atkinsons and Tanners... they probably won't be really ready for 6 months to a year. The bit I'm excited for it is if Pearson can bring in a few from abroad as he did at Leicester, then I won't know what to expect. If it all clicks, I can see us having a decent go next year. If not, it's the one after for me - provided we can find a way to hang out to our current stars. Either way, exciting times, and I haven't said or felt that in years now. Edited January 29, 2022 by IAmNick 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfOfWestStreet Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 We have no where near enough money and or quality to get promoted. What purpose does spouting this crap serve? I will put every penny I own on that we wont be promoted to the Premier league in 5 years. Not negative, I love the way we're going right now, but this is our level. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 6 minutes ago, TomF said: A top 10 finish next season will be progress imo That's good, but a bit dull. Try something more outlandish, like Silvia's doing here (taking the forum off somewhere different /livelier this evening) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFCGav Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 I love the optimism and I do share it, sadly it depends on some VERY big ‘if’s’. If we deal with the EFL and FFP and avoid a deduction, and if we keep hold of all/most our myriad of exceptional youngsters, and if some of the older heads lead the boys and stay consistent… then it could happen. But by god it will be difficult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 41 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: We’re going up next season. I know this was a three year plan, and we’re 1/3 through it. But I think it’s accelerating. Nobody could have believed Alex Scott would come in and be a top class Championship CM after this long. Massengo maybe, but his trajectory is off the chart. Nobody at the start of this season thought Semenyo could be a beast up front. Nobody at the start of this season thought Pring, excepting an error today, could be this good. Nobody saw Benarous coming. We’re currently at 18 months stage when we should be at 9. Check the trajectory. It’s insane. All we need is maturity, and that comes with games, which is happening. A couple of smart additions and we’re there. We’ve just dominated 3 games on the bounce. But more than that, it’s the thinking of where we were in November. Its clicking. it’s coming. Put your tenners on. The 3 teams going up next season have already been decided, Burnley, Watford and Norwich!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swanker Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 40 minutes ago, marmite said: More water with it Silvio! Seriously though I think our improvement is immense. We could wipe out our debt in the summer but I hope we retain and add what's needed. If we do, that tenner might not sound such a bad idea. I started on jack daniels and now I’m on the port. We’ll be playing in Europe in five years. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WECANDO Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 25 minutes ago, Davefevs said: No we can’t. We haven’t broken FFP, nor will we for the cycle ending 2021/22 (this season). We could be over in the cycle ending 2022/23, but we have 9, 12, 15 months to clear what is likely to be a small amount over £39m. Certainly not minus 9….nowhere near that. It will help if us Bristolians buy up all them season tickets when they are for sell. Give our bank balance a big boost. Can you imagine with Covid practically gone, 90% or more season tickets sold and the ground pretty full with a really good side we appear to have. Exciting or what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 It all sounds good but 6 months is a long time in football and Bristol City of August 2022 lines up without Semenyo and Massengo in my opinion. Maybe £25m extra in the bank but they will need to be replaced well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 33 minutes ago, Ska Junkie said: Thanks Fevs, I bow to your vastly superior knowledge. We all do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolman_Stand Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 50 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said: We’re going up next season. I know this was a three year plan, and we’re 1/3 through it. But I think it’s accelerating. Nobody could have believed Alex Scott would come in and be a top class Championship CM after this long. Massengo maybe, but his trajectory is off the chart. Nobody at the start of this season thought Semenyo could be a beast up front. Nobody at the start of this season thought Pring, excepting an error today, could be this good. Nobody saw Benarous coming. We’re currently at 18 months stage when we should be at 9. Check the trajectory. It’s insane. All we need is maturity, and that comes with games, which is happening. A couple of smart additions and we’re there. We’ve just dominated 3 games on the bounce. But more than that, it’s the thinking of where we were in November. Its clicking. it’s coming. Put your tenners on. I love it!! It does feel like something is starting to build and performances have improved significantly, I can't remember ever being this far down the league table yet so optimistic. We now have a proper structure to the team and style of play with players that are committed to the cause and put the effort in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUTOR Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 Love it. These are the sort of conversations that we need to have as a 53 year second division club. Following City I’m overly cynical as a result of years of being slammed back down to earth, but it’s the hope that makes it all worth it as well as the thing that kills you. Yes it’s going to be a struggle keeping these young players together (I don’t think we will) but if there was ever a way for us to do it it was always going to be like this. A group of exceptionally talented young players who have had time to develop together. It’s all going to go to shit, it always does, but there’s nothing wrong with a bit of fantastical excitement every now and again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomThumb84 Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Silvio Dante said: We’re going up next season. I know this was a three year plan, and we’re 1/3 through it. But I think it’s accelerating. Nobody could have believed Alex Scott would come in and be a top class Championship CM after this long. Massengo maybe, but his trajectory is off the chart. Nobody at the start of this season thought Semenyo could be a beast up front. Nobody at the start of this season thought Pring, excepting an error today, could be this good. Nobody saw Benarous coming. We’re currently at 18 months stage when we should be at 9. Check the trajectory. It’s insane. All we need is maturity, and that comes with games, which is happening. A couple of smart additions and we’re there. We’ve just dominated 3 games on the bounce. But more than that, it’s the thinking of where we were in November. Its clicking. it’s coming. Put your tenners on. I love this post. YOUUUU REDDDDSSSSS!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 I am genuinely excited about our young 'uns and the possibilities of next year. Maybe not quite as excited as you @Silvio Dante, but excited. There may not be FFP problems ( thanks @Davefevs ) but there will be a lot of eyes on some of the talent in the team. Semenyo has had interest already, Massengo and Scott are bound to be on the Prem Radar and others will have noted Pring's improvement. If we can keep those, add a decent striker and Centre back, I think the Playoff's are a real outside bet , as long as we keep on improving as we have. The likes of Weimann, Kalas, James are important, but getting older. Massengo and Semenyo will be ambitious. Which means next year could be massive . If we can get HNM & AS to commit to new contracts and we get another full season out of all of them , maybe, just maybe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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