Davefevs Posted February 6, 2022 Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 @headhunter just listening. Wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daored Posted February 6, 2022 Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 19 minutes ago, Davefevs said: @headhunter just listening. Wow. I take it in reference to the statement Pearson must resign? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted February 6, 2022 Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 Unbelievable. So what is the alternative ? No mention of that. And no mention of guaranteed improvement with a new nan at the helm. Wow indeed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original OTIB Posted February 6, 2022 Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 1 minute ago, Sir Geoff said: Unbelievable. So what is the alternative ? No mention of that. And no mention of guaranteed improvement with a new nan at the helm. Wow indeed. Which sage stated thus? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted February 6, 2022 Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 Not going to bother to listen but doesn’t surprise me. Been a snarky agenda against him for a long time, especially when they had to stop criticising Weimann because he was in the top four scorers in the division. One regular on there has been saying he should go since October so any defeat will just entrench that view. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted February 6, 2022 Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 Just now, The Original OTIB said: Which sage stated thus? Go on you know who 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyClapper Posted February 6, 2022 Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 Just now, The Original OTIB said: Which sage stated thus? Was it the great Ian Gay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted February 6, 2022 Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 Just about the first thing he said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 6, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 It’s the moving of the goalposts to frame an agenda that does me. Earlier in the season. “Our home form is dreadful, if our away form drops off we are gonna be in real trouble” Away form drops off. ”moan, moan, moan” But no acknowledgement that our home form has turned around in the meantime. Isn’t Nige just “telling it as it is” when he says “we are where we are”? Isn’t that a bit hypocritical? 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 6, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 3 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said: Just about the first thing he said 1m 6s in…and that included the intro music. so entitled. Threatened to not buy a season ticket next season. Again. Said the same last season. Still bought one. Said he’s only willing to pay if we’re playing well. Hahaha. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headhunter Posted February 6, 2022 Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 4 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Not going to bother to listen but doesn’t surprise me. Been a snarky agenda against him for a long time, especially when they had to stop criticising Weimann because he was in the top four scorers in the division. One regular on there has been saying he should go since October so any defeat will just entrench that view. You are referring to the comments of Ian in isolation so please DO NOT cover the rest of us with that blanket of criticism. Ian is just being Ian and whilst his voice on this subject sees him, for now, in a minority he is like anyone entitled to an opinion no matter how extreme. Perhaps if you listened you would hear the more balanced view of Nick Sutton in particular. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daored Posted February 6, 2022 Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 Just now, GrahamC said: Not going to bother to listen but doesn’t surprise me. Been a snarky agenda against him for a long time, especially when they had to stop criticising Weimann because he was in the top four scorers in the division. One regular on there has been saying he should go since October so any defeat will just entrench that view. I think questioning results / performances is acceptable , but I struggle to understand how people can change their opinions so quickly on the back of result (yesterday was a bad result). Especially when praise has been given to Pearson for past couple of performances etc- it’s an incredible knee jerk reaction. I do feel questions should be asked as to why we’re not defending better , especially as Pearson was a decent CB himself. We have to remember we have several young players in the team , and new to championship football , results and performance are going to fluctuate. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redtucks Posted February 6, 2022 Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 9 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said: Unbelievable. So what is the alternative ? No mention of that. And no mention of guaranteed improvement with a new nan at the helm. Wow indeed. My nan is dead so is anyone else's nan available? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daored Posted February 6, 2022 Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, headhunter said: You are referring to the comments of Ian in isolation so please DO NOT cover the rest of us with that blanket of criticism. Ian is just being Ian and whilst his voice on this subject sees him, for now, in a minority he is like anyone entitled to an opinion no matter how extreme. Perhaps if you listened you would hear the more balanced view of Nick Sutton in particular. Neil is a great addition to your podcast - very measured Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted February 6, 2022 Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 The thing bothers me is this sort of nonsense gets a wider audience on larger social media platforms and leads to mass unrest ( WBA away). Thus ruining all the good work that is being done to turn 2 horrendous years decline around. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted February 6, 2022 Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, headhunter said: You are referring to the comments of Ian in isolation so please DO NOT cover the rest of us with that blanket of criticism. Ian is just being Ian and whilst his voice on this subject sees him, for now, in a minority he is like anyone entitled to an opinion no matter how extreme. Perhaps if you listened you would hear the more balanced view of Nick Sutton in particular. I can listen to Neil (not Nick) Sutton every week, he sits in front of me! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted February 6, 2022 Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 If we were to win a few on the bounce it would be "I always said Nige was the real deal." Or, more, likely, "I'm glad Nige decided to listen to me at last." Its the same every time we lose, its just a knee jerk reaction every week on a match by match basis, nothing more than that and it adds nothing to the podcast - may as well read the match day thread for that sort of thing. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 6, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 5 minutes ago, daored said: Neil is a great addition to your podcast - very measured Shame Neil wasn’t able to see the game yesterday….and give his views. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyClapper Posted February 6, 2022 Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 6 minutes ago, Redtucks said: My nan is dead so is anyone else's nan available? My Nan is unfortunately no longer with us. My son’s Nan however is available. She’s just had a replacement knee so won’t be out on the training pitch for a while. As for style of play. I quote “ I don’t mind watching the football (as opposed to Place in the Sun/The Chase). As long as they don’t try that tippy tappy rubbish “. In the running? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 6, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 1 minute ago, bcfc01 said: If we were to win a few on the bounce it would be "I always said Nige was the real deal." Or, more, likely, "I'm glad Nige decided to listen to me at last." Its the same every time we lose, its just a knee jerk reaction every week on a match by match basis, nothing more than that and it adds nothing to the podcast - may as well read the match day thread for that sort of thing. And you can throw in comments like: ”a wise man once said…blah, blah, blah” or throw in stats, but there’s no education / context as to why the stats are what they are. Bemoans us having 35% possession (when we’ve won games). Bemoans us having 61% possession when we lose. Never any thought into why those numbers are generated. Says he done some analysis, what he really means is he’s looked at some numbers, but not the underlying causes. So why did we have 61% possession and lose yesterday Ian? What did we do with it, where did we have it, why did we have it there, what did we do with it when we had there, etc, etc. never any thought into that is there. I notice he’s stopped using Shots on Target as his result determinant, now that it doesn’t align to his negativity! 4 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daored Posted February 6, 2022 Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 10 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Shame Neil wasn’t able to see the game yesterday….and give his views. But he openly said he hadn’t seen the game and to be fair didn’t comment on the actual game, but did challenge views of the situation overall at the club 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted February 6, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 Just now, daored said: But he openly said he hadn’t seen the game and to be fair didn’t comment on the actual game, but did challenge views of the situation overall at the club Yep, exactly…and I think he’d have countered Ian’s over-reaction. Mark’s summary was good, but Ian just treads all over him, or makes unsubtle comments in the background when he is talking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Swan and Cemetery Posted February 6, 2022 Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 16 minutes ago, Davefevs said: 1m 6s in…and that included the intro music. so entitled. Threatened to not buy a season ticket next season. Again. Said the same last season. Still bought one. Said he’s only willing to pay if we’re playing well. Hahaha. Not really the definition of a supporter: when your performances meet my expectations I’ll be back in touch. Everyone’s entitled to their own opinion, but when taking stances that are always looking for anything to confirm an ideological perspective, rather than adjusting views as facts change, it looks like narcissism, rather than ‘straight talking’. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted February 6, 2022 Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 19 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Never any thought into why those numbers are generated. Says he done some analysis, what he really means is he’s looked at some numbers, but not the underlying causes. As the cliche goes, data is not information, information is not knowledge, knowledge is not wisdom. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted February 6, 2022 Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: I notice he’s stopped using Shots on Target as his result determinant, now that it doesn’t align to his negativity! Although strangely if one actually does some analysis of SoT then we see that although SoT for has improved greatly over the past year, SoT against has stayed static or even worsened. So, whilst a superficial review of a single statistic might leave the contributor out of ammunition, some real analysis of SoT might not see him so bereft. Compare our current average SoT allowed to the same quality posted by teams in the high and low positions in the table, over multiple seasons, qnd he might see that our SoT allowed is at the level of a bottom team. SoT can, with a bit of thought, still be fashioned into a just criticism of the current team. Some further analysis of why SoT against remains poor might finally move us towards a worthwhile conversation that could actually lead to suggesting some kind of feasible and effective solution. That's this does not happen reveals the commentator's deficiencies in this area. Edited February 6, 2022 by ExiledAjax 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wild Bunch Posted February 6, 2022 Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 59 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said: The thing bothers me is this sort of nonsense gets a wider audience on larger social media platforms and leads to mass unrest ( WBA away). Thus ruining all the good work that is being done to turn 2 horrendous years decline around. I do enjoy listening to FBC but they need to provide a bit of balance sometimes. Nigel has inherited a complete mess and 1 year on in my view are in a much better state then when he joined. Sometimes you have to look beyond results and performances. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted February 6, 2022 Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 The self opiniated one is simply embarrassing - I cringe when I think , what others fans think , when they hear him At least it’ seems Twentyman has become bored of listening to his drivel. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted February 6, 2022 Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 1 hour ago, headhunter said: You are referring to the comments of Ian in isolation so please DO NOT cover the rest of us with that blanket of criticism. Ian is just being Ian and whilst his voice on this subject sees him, for now, in a minority he is like anyone entitled to an opinion no matter how extreme. Perhaps if you listened you would hear the more balanced view of Nick Sutton in particular. You did agree with him though didn't you? Straight after that comment you said "we tell it as it is!". The problem is that that isn't telling it as it is that's just an opinion based on a knee jerk reaction. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carey 6 Posted February 6, 2022 Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 What is Ian’s name on here? Does anybody know? I think it’s one poster but not too sure. I actually quite enjoy listening to him because I disagree with so much of what he says it cracks me up. Good to hear a different view point from time to time. Will have a listen to this tomorrow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted February 6, 2022 Report Share Posted February 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Sir Geoff said: Unbelievable. So what is the alternative ? No mention of that. And no mention of guaranteed improvement with a new nan at the helm. Wow indeed. My Nan's up for it...........AND she's 2 years younger than Roy Hodgson? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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