Phileas Fogg Posted February 13, 2022 Report Share Posted February 13, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Bristol Oil Services said: Ipswich are 9th in L1 and had a crowd of 29,000 the other week, and took 6,800 away yesterday. That's not happening here any time soon (not even a division higher) and there's a distinct and quantative difference between the "tradition" here and the "tradition" there. For good reasons, one of which I have outlined already. Their historic attendances aren't that different from ours in recent years. For their 29k attendance, was there a promo on tickets? I don't think anyone is denying that historically Ipswich are a higher profile club than us. I'm not sure it's as much of a factor as you make it out to be. It feels like you quite enjoy belittling our support for some reason. In reality our support is good, especially given our geography. Ipswich 21/22 League One 15 0 311,492 20,766 20/21 League One 23 1 4,000 174 19/20 League One 17 0 332,329 19,549 18/19 Championship 23 0 408,589 17,765 17/18 Championship 23 0 374,251 16,272 16/17 Championship 23 0 390,549 16,980 Bristol City 21/22 Championship 15 0 225,688 15,046 20/21 Championship 23 0 0 0 19/20 Championship 23 0 392,822 17,079 18/19 Championship 23 0 484,836 21,080 17/18 Championship 23 0 481,916 20,953 16/17 Championship 23 0 442,892 19,256 Edited February 13, 2022 by Phileas Fogg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted February 13, 2022 Report Share Posted February 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said: Their historic attendances aren't that different from ours in recent years. For their 29k attendance, was there a promo on tickets? I don't think anyone is denying that historically Ipswich are a higher profile club than us. I'm not sure it's as much of a factor as you make it out to be. It feels like you quite enjoy belittling our support for some reason. In reality our support is good, especially given our geography. Ipswich 21/22 League One 15 0 311,492 20,766 20/21 League One 23 1 4,000 174 19/20 League One 17 0 332,329 19,549 18/19 Championship 23 0 408,589 17,765 17/18 Championship 23 0 374,251 16,272 16/17 Championship 23 0 390,549 16,980 Bristol City 21/22 Championship 15 0 225,688 15,046 20/21 Championship 23 0 0 0 19/20 Championship 23 0 392,822 17,079 18/19 Championship 23 0 484,836 21,080 17/18 Championship 23 0 481,916 20,953 16/17 Championship 23 0 442,892 19,256 Is 15046 our average attendance this season? That can’t be right surely? Or am I completely misreading it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted February 13, 2022 Report Share Posted February 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, lenred said: Is 15046 our average attendance this season? That can’t be right surely? Or am I completely misreading it? It's from Transfermarkt so not the most reliable site - but easy to get a snapshot comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted February 13, 2022 Report Share Posted February 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Phileas Fogg said: It's from Transfermarkt so not the most reliable site - but easy to get a snapshot comparison. Have we had one game with an attendance as low as that even though bar cup games? This site says 18,600 which sounds more like it tbh. https://fanbanter.co.uk/average-attendance-of-every-championship-club-for-the-2021-22-season-so-far/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted February 13, 2022 Report Share Posted February 13, 2022 18,690 on this site as well; https://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/championship/attendances Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted February 13, 2022 Report Share Posted February 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Bristol Oil Services said: Yes, perhaps. But I maintain that the "tradition" in Ipswich of going to support the club (especially away) is stronger there than it is in Bristol. Even after all this time.And my theory for why this is so is that Ipswich won shiny silver cups in the 60s, 70s and 80s, cups that every club in the country - Liverpool, Manchester United, every club - wanted to win (ie not the Sherpa Van or L1 title), and they were regularly on Match of the Day playing attractive, winning football. Meanwhile, we were mostly bobbing between Div 3 and Div 2 (not scoring many goals in the latter). That tradition, of "going to the match," of going away "with the boys," is more ingrained, even now, in Ipswich, than it is here. Our equivalent of Ipswich to MK, a trip of about 100 miles I think, and a huge away end, could be Coventry. We take a good following there, certainly, but not 6000. I'm not mocking anyone for that, merely trying to point out the difference between a club like ours, and clubs with greater success in their past. I think the interesting thing about this would be to see what would have happened if they hadn't had success or just those individual players, obviously impossible. If they hadn't and looking at other teams from similar sized towns then would you say they would be tier 3/4 mainstays. Also if we had had that success where would we be? Arguably bigger than your Wolves or Newcastle's, maybe up there with teams like Villa. I guess we could also have had less relative success and be like Rovers though I guess. I guess that's your point isn't it, we don't have the history so don't carry the same amount of country wide support relative to the size of the local population - I don't think anyone can argue with that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted February 13, 2022 Report Share Posted February 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, Pezo said: I think the interesting thing about this would be to see what would have happened if they hadn't had success or just those individual players, obviously impossible. If they hadn't and looking at other teams from similar sized towns then would you say they would be tier 3/4 mainstays. Also if we had had that success where would we be? Arguably bigger than your Wolves or Newcastle's, maybe up there with teams like Villa. I guess we could also have had less relative success and be like Rovers though I guess. I guess that's your point isn't it, we don't have the history so don't carry the same amount of country wide support relative to the size of the local population - I don't think anyone can argue with that. It's not worth arguing over. Let's hope we win this afternoon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted February 13, 2022 Report Share Posted February 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Phileas Fogg said: Their historic attendances aren't that different from ours in recent years. For their 29k attendance, was there a promo on tickets? I don't think anyone is denying that historically Ipswich are a higher profile club than us. I'm not sure it's as much of a factor as you make it out to be. It feels like you quite enjoy belittling our support for some reason. In reality our support is good, especially given our geography. Ipswich 21/22 League One 15 0 311,492 20,766 20/21 League One 23 1 4,000 174 19/20 League One 17 0 332,329 19,549 18/19 Championship 23 0 408,589 17,765 17/18 Championship 23 0 374,251 16,272 16/17 Championship 23 0 390,549 16,980 Bristol City 21/22 Championship 15 0 225,688 15,046 20/21 Championship 23 0 0 0 19/20 Championship 23 0 392,822 17,079 18/19 Championship 23 0 484,836 21,080 17/18 Championship 23 0 481,916 20,953 16/17 Championship 23 0 442,892 19,256 Our average this season isn't 15,000 and it was more like 22,000 in 2019/20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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