Never to the dark side Posted March 17, 2022 Report Share Posted March 17, 2022 It leaves you two players short in the penalty area, The first option should be to clear the ball first,having two extra players in the box. and not trying to correct the mistake/s after the orgional mistake of not heading the ball away by the player/s is to blame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original OTIB Posted March 17, 2022 Report Share Posted March 17, 2022 The posts are in the penalty area. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KegCity Posted March 17, 2022 Report Share Posted March 17, 2022 Depends if they're leaving someone spare. Someone on the back post is nearly always a good idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East End Old Boy Posted March 17, 2022 Report Share Posted March 17, 2022 Rather leave a player up field, then the opposition will leave two back. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon79 Posted March 17, 2022 Report Share Posted March 17, 2022 You can put players where you want, but ultimately, you have to want to defend, want to win the first ball, want to compete & stay switched on. COYR 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted March 17, 2022 Report Share Posted March 17, 2022 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted March 17, 2022 Report Share Posted March 17, 2022 Thought this was going to be a thread about Andy Llewellyn from the title. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norn Iron Posted March 17, 2022 Report Share Posted March 17, 2022 I thought it was about players leaving messages on otib. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted March 17, 2022 Report Share Posted March 17, 2022 4 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: Thought this was going to be a thread about Andy Llewellyn from the title. Underrated comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonks55 Posted March 17, 2022 Report Share Posted March 17, 2022 48 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Putting aside the pain of watching us capitulate to the same Barnsley move (and the fact that arguably a free kick should have been given against their player on the front post blocking our (feeble) attempt to get to the cross), I actually think both goals could have been prevented by simply having a man placed on the six yard box, some 2 or 3 yards in front of the post. Such a player would cut out the low, fast cross to the front post. Consequently a higher trajectory cross would be in the air longer and give most 'normal' defence's more time to pick out the cross and clear. There again we are talking about a defence that consistently fails to meet 'normal' standards! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted March 17, 2022 Report Share Posted March 17, 2022 1 hour ago, East End Old Boy said: Rather leave a player up field, then the opposition will leave two back. This really bugs me. When we, that should be if we actually clear a ball from a corner, it comes straight back. Their defence has time to set, assess and attack again. If we leave a player up at least it could delay the ball coming back into the box, or even lead to a break. As for men at the post. I get the theory in that article @Davefevs, but as we don't seem to win that first (or 2nd ) ball, then surely we have to right the error (that inevitably occurs). I've always been a fan of someone on the back post, or covering the line at least. As we always bring everyone back there should be a spare player that could do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted March 17, 2022 Admin Report Share Posted March 17, 2022 2 hours ago, East End Old Boy said: Rather leave a player up field, then the opposition will leave two back. I often wonder how many players a defending side could leave up front whilst defending a corner? Say we have five attacking players on the halfway line surely this negates the attacking team having as many players in the box? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted March 17, 2022 Report Share Posted March 17, 2022 1 minute ago, phantom said: I often wonder how many players a defending side could leave up front whilst defending a corner? Say we have five attacking players on the halfway line surely this negates the attacking team having as many players in the box? A game of cat and mouse. Our goal v Coventry (h) was a result of them leaving 2 up, but us deciding to only keep 2 back instead of 2+1. It meant Scott and Dasilva could work the short corner. It also meant either Weimann or Martin weren’t double marked, and voila….goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East End Old Boy Posted March 17, 2022 Report Share Posted March 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, phantom said: I often wonder how many players a defending side could leave up front whilst defending a corner? Say we have five attacking players on the halfway line surely this negates the attacking team having as many players in the box? Like the thinking, I believe Coventry left 2 up on an occasion and we left 3 back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The turtle Posted March 17, 2022 Report Share Posted March 17, 2022 https://youtu.be/D05EmdlsM0A Personally, one on the back post. And leave 1 up. Keepers always have a better chance at the near post. It's the back post ones that do them more often. Not to mention the back post guy can see the whole play so knows exactly when to push out. Man post - kicker. Leave 1 up - 2 back for them. That in principle leaves you 1 Free, for the short corner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firstdivision Posted March 18, 2022 Report Share Posted March 18, 2022 23 hours ago, Davefevs said: But, Dave, what do the stats say about teams that are completely and utterly useless at defending the first ball in? Is there a stats breakdown for that? There must be a special Bristol City and Reading stats subsection. I mean, if you just accept you are useless at defending the cross, does that change anything? Those stats lump us in with competent and semi-competent teams. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted March 18, 2022 Report Share Posted March 18, 2022 1 hour ago, firstdivision said: But, Dave, what do the stats say about teams that are completely and utterly useless at defending the first ball in? Is there a stats breakdown for that? There must be a special Bristol City and Reading stats subsection. I mean, if you just accept you are useless at defending the cross, does that change anything? Those stats lump us in with competent and semi-competent teams. Just seen Nige down screwfix buying a packet of cable-ties!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firstdivision Posted March 18, 2022 Report Share Posted March 18, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Davefevs said: Just seen Nige down screwfix buying a packet of cable-ties!! Not some 7.32m-long planks of wood and some nails Edited March 18, 2022 by firstdivision Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted March 18, 2022 Report Share Posted March 18, 2022 36 minutes ago, firstdivision said: Not some 7.32m-long planks of wood and some nails Is someone being hung! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted March 18, 2022 Report Share Posted March 18, 2022 (edited) Edited March 18, 2022 by Pezo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted March 18, 2022 Report Share Posted March 18, 2022 You can man a post and should still have enough to deal with corner. Usual practice would be to place a small guy on the post eg Jay to leave height in the centre of the box. I would certainly leave one up, either Semenyo or Weimann to force two back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocking Red Cyril Posted March 18, 2022 Report Share Posted March 18, 2022 (edited) On 17/03/2022 at 08:54, Davefevs said: Yeah good article Dave. And I see that having players not on the posts allows better player coverage for marking. But our extra available players do not pick any body up . So cause no advantage . So could players on our posts not turn into an advantage. Edited March 18, 2022 by Rocking Red Cyril 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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