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slartibartfast

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1 hour ago, Sleepy1968 said:

Here's some info relating to the specialist he's under

https://www.fortiusclinic.com/specialists/professor-ernest-schilders

I picked up an abductor/groin related running (jogging) injury about 6 weeks ago, which is still causing me problems. He looks like just the person I ought to be seeing.

"....my groin is better than ever"      lucky old you, wish I could say the same !?

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Packman

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10 hours ago, grifty said:

I'm sorry, but there have been posters on here saying Kalas has been left out because we are looking to sell him so this photo/operation must be made up as they cannot be wrong.

It's the same people who said Callum O'dowda was faking his injury, he only went off because he didn't fancy it.

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GrahamC

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11 hours ago, grifty said:

I'm sorry, but there have been posters on here saying Kalas has been left out because we are looking to sell him so this photo/operation must be made up as they cannot be wrong.

You’re right but that theory wasn’t exactly far fetched, was it?

We all know that he’s in our top two earners, we can’t afford those sort of wages in future & he seemed to go from playing in every game to disappearing.

I still think if we can find a club he wants to join that he could well be off this summer.

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Silvio Dante

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15 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

You’re right but that theory wasn’t exactly far fetched, was it?

We all know that he’s in our top two earners, we can’t afford those sort of wages in future & he seemed to go from playing in every game to disappearing.

I still think if we can find a club he wants to join that he could well be off this summer.

And…both of those things could be true.

If Kalas has been playing with an injury that has not been given time to get better for two years, logic says it’s maintaining at best but more than likely deteriorating. He went from the side when safety was almost assured, but we clearly felt we could not do without him until that point.

Now, if he’s got a long term problem and it isn’t resolved, then should we wish to sell him in the summer we run the risk of a medical failure, or the buying club offering less as he has a “less serious but unresolved problem”

Kalas having the operation doesn’t mean he’s not off. It means we thought we could get safe without him and we’re  either ensuring his fitness for a new season with us or “protecting our asset” in the event of a sale.

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Davefevs

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1 hour ago, Packman said:

It's the same people who said Callum O'dowda was faking his injury, he only went off because he didn't fancy it.

I’m not a great fan of O’Dowda (the shock!) but he was actually limping a good few minutes before he came off.

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Rocking Red Cyril

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11 hours ago, Davefevs said:

I’m not a great fan of O’Dowda (the shock!) but he was actually limping a good few minutes before he came off.

Ahhhhh interesting but you would not limp. This says a lot and I feel sways the already suspicious evidence.

And I feel disproves all evidence against the so said accused of O'Dowda

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Rocking Red Cyril

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8 hours ago, Sir Geoff said:

Any club that thinks he is worth signing, once he has had his op.

Which puts his value right down. Just can not see it. 

I wait to be proved wrong ?

9 hours ago, Rossi the Robin said:

Sort of thing we do 

Yep exactly. There just no sense in it. It's far too risky.

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Sir Geoff

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2 hours ago, Rocking Red Cyril said:

Which puts his value right down. Just can not see it. 

I wait to be proved wrong ?

Yep exactly. There just no sense in it. It's far too risky.

Sorry, perhaps its me being a bit dull but why would his value go down after he has had an op and fully recovered ? His value (on the books with a year left of his contract) is circa £3 million how is that going to drop right down due to having an op. Most players have an operation of one sort or another during their career, their valuation doesn't automatically drop as a result.

Perhaps he has been rested and having an op now so that we are in a position to get full value if he is sold.

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AshtonRobin21

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FWIW, I do like Kalas, but I feel we simply haven't seen anywhere near the performances we should have for the money we paid for him. 

He is one of our highest earners, at a time where our finances our stretched. Many factors may be responsible for why we haven't seen the same version of Kalas since his loan season. The main factor being that in his first year (loan), he was playing alongside Webster. And has since played alongside multiple 33+ year olds whose careers are on the decline. 

I do however feel that if a suitable offer for Kalas should arrive, then we should accept.

There are more than enough centre backs becoming available as free agents this summer. Sean Raggett (Portsmouth) would be a like-for-like replacement, who would cost a fraction of the wages. 

Huddersfield are an example of where free agent centre backs could get you, both Matty Pearson (former Luton) and Tom Lees (former Sheff Weds) arrived for them in the summer and formed a strong partnership alongside the loan signing of Colwill (Chelsea). 

A not so popular suggestion, if looking for an experienced centre back who can still operate at this level for 2/3 years would be Sean Morrison (Cardiff). Now granted he has had a horrible time this season, with both form and injuries being a problem, but he has operated at the highest level of the division for a number of years and could offer leadership qualities that our defence is severely lacking.

The arrivals of Raggett and Morrison could shake up the back line and offer much needed grit. Both have been club captains in the past. And both could arrive without costing a fee. 

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Rocking Red Cyril

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1 hour ago, Sir Geoff said:

Sorry, perhaps its me being a bit dull but why would his value go down after he has had an op and fully recovered ? His value (on the books with a year left of his contract) is circa £3 million how is that going to drop right down due to having an op. Most players have an operation of one sort or another during their career, their valuation doesn't automatically drop as a result.

Perhaps he has been rested and having an op now so that we are in a position to get full value if he is sold.

How long is the recovery from this op ?

My feelings is if he had a op. He would need a pre season and few games until he  becomes a safe bet to buy on fitness. Surely he is a risk to buy until that situation therefore his price goes down untill then . And selling him in the first month or so of next season makes no sense to me 

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3 minutes ago, Rocking Red Cyril said:

How long is the recovery from this op ?

My feelings is if he had a op. He would need a pre season and few games until he  becomes a safe bet to buy on fitness. Surely he is a risk to buy until that situation therefore his price goes down untill then . And selling him in the first month or so of next season makes no sense to me 

I think it’s a case of, off the wage bill, transfer fee secondary, especially in the currently depressed market.

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GrahamC

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14 hours ago, Rocking Red Cyril said:

Who is going to pay for some one recovering from an op?

Seeing as he’s under contract with us until the end of the 22/23 season, we will, unless he moves.

The likelihood is he’s had this operation now in order to be fit for next season, wherever he’s playing then.

I know some on here can’t seem to wait to take the opportunity to moan at present, but I would be absolutely amazed if this issue is a problem in any possible transfer, Kalas has just played pretty much for 2 years without a break after the Czechs made the Euro semi finals, yet some are implying that he’s got a Joe Williams type availability record.

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