He's not the Messiah - he's a very naughty boy....

[bcfcredandwhite]

To some people, all our mistakes and failings on the pitch are STILL the fault of Mark Ashton and Lee Johnson. 'Sir' Nigel can do no wrong; when things go right he's brilliant and when things go wrong it's all down to LJ and MA - REALLY???

Lets look at some of Nigel Pearson's bigger decisions in more detail:
He let Pato and Fammy leave on a free, but didn't replace either of them - to 'save wages' apparently. Ok, fair enough - we WERE skint - so what does he do? He goes and signs Simpson - on £15k per week.......... 
He refused play our most expensive 'assets' (Wells and Palmer) - or his own purchase, Simpson - which is fair enough if he doesn't think they are good enough (apart from Simpson - why sign him if he's ****?), ...... but then at the same time won't allow Wells to go to Cardiff or Swansea - who were both interested on taking him on loan, which would have saved us his wages AND put him in the shop window. Why? Maybe he was scared that he might start playing a tune under a different (better) manager who actually PLAYS him?!!
The official line is that Nigel didn't want to let Wells go to a Championship rival. IF Wells had been allowed to go and play in Wales - and gone on to score shedloads - it would have raised his stock and we would have been more likely to be able to offload him. Loans often turn into permanent moves and it could have been good for everyone. We were virtually safe at the time - and Nigel wasn't playing him anyway - so the risk to us was minimal.

None of the above makes common sense for a regime supposedly strapped for cash - we can't bleat on and on (blah blah blah) about money wasted by MA and LJ, when he goes and does this.

Kalas is another example of bizarre management - he had a GREAT Euro tournament for his country and has been one of our most reliable players for years - but Pearson dropped him from our first 11. Bizarre. This smells of a dressing-room fallout to me - a clash of egos maybe? At a time when we needed all the defensive firepower we could get.

At least Weimann is playing well though - thank Christ.

ALL the above have been MANAGEMENT decisions by 'sir' Nigel - and bloody poor ones. Nothing to do with LJ or MA - or even SL/JL

Nigel Pearson has been a poor manager so far. I'm extremely disappointed. I didn't expect promotion - I expected a period of 'settling down', but I did expect it to be better than this. I can't even describe what Nigel Pearson's 'style' of play is. 

No I still don't want NP sacked - yet - believe it or not, it IS possible to criticise the manager without wanting him replaced - and besides - it's only worth sacking someone if there is a better replacement available. However, I don't buy any more of this 'he inherited a **** squad' bollocks any more. He did his bit to CREATE the current '****' squad, so if the squad really IS '****' then it's partly of his own making.
To be fair to Nigel, it's just some of our FANS who are saying this, not Pearson himself.
He needs to do the job he's paid to do - lets not forget that he's being paid more than ANY other manager in the history of our club - EVEN MORE THAN LEE JOHNSON WAS!!
Some of his decisions defy logic and he really needs to step up. I'm really beginning to wonder if he is a 'one hit wonder' (with Leicester) - like Wilson was (with Barnsley). I seriously hope NOT - for all our sakes, but he's certainly NOT the messiah.

[Galley is our king]

Jeez, not another one!

Can't be arsed to read it all but NP is to blame for letting Fammy leave?

,....sorry but that was definitely ASHTON!!!! He even stated as much!

Edited April 13, 2022 by Galley is our king
Whoops

[Robbored]

It was Ashton who let Famara go and it was also Ashton who refused to pay Toney’s asking price and he ended up at Brentford - look where he is now.

[bearded_red]

Stopped reading after the suggestion that Danny Simpson was on 15k a week.

I’m sure the rest of your post was brilliant and I’m missing out.

[KegCity]

Simpson was paid nowhere near 15k a week.

Letting Paterson go wasn't a mistake and Famara didn't want to stay.

You're overrating Kalas massively, his performances have declined since Webster left. Obviously been reliable but he's got tremendous holes in his game.

There's plenty of valid criticisms of Pearson, just none of those.

[tin]

2 minutes ago, bearded_red said:

Stopped reading after the suggestion that Danny Simpson was on 15k a week.

I’m sure the rest of your post was brilliant and I’m missing out.

Beat me to it. Laughable to assert he was on £15k p/w, but whatever suits the agenda. 

[BasSavage88]

Im, not going to read all of that but I agree

[Sheltons Army]

‘He let Fammy go on a free’

’He signed Simpson on £15k a week’

 

 

At that point it was pointless reading on

........Lets make things up and make a new thread 

[Herta]

I like to give people a chance so forgave your wrongness on Fam and Simpson’s wages.

sadly I only got as far as the bit about refusing to play Palmer and I’m out too. 

We can’t expect NP to ignore the fact Palmer is shit and play him because of his wage packet…. What are you on about?? 

[Clutton Caveman]

12 minutes ago, KegCity said:

Simpson was paid nowhere near 15k a week.

Letting Paterson go wasn't a mistake and Famara didn't want to stay.

You're overrating Kalas massively, his performances have declined since Webster left. Obviously been reliable but he's got tremendous holes in his game.

There's plenty of valid criticisms of Pearson, just none of those.

I think the post Peterborough match interview was very telling

Nigel, a lot of frustration there from the fans today at the end, was it justified?

I’m not really too bothered by that to be fair. You’re here to ask me about the game aren’t you?

So he is not bother by the fans reaction. He should realise that fans one way or another pay his wages. The whole interview could be summed up as pure arrogance. It is always everybody's fault except his. If the team is not motivated it is HIS fault. Unsurprisingly they are not jumping through hoops to play for a man that throws them under the bus as every opportunity and speaks constantly about they instead or we. He has become a sort of Ricky Gervais character only running a football club instead of a paper merchant. I just read the interview again and I think he is bored with the job as it has turned our harder than he expected and would quite like to return to his retirement.

[Calculus]

I stopped ready at the point the OP said that NP let Fammy go on a free. Came back to it a bit later to see whether the rest was as bad. Wall to wall twaddle with a transparent agenda.

[BigTone]

I blame Robbored for all the clubs ills.

Why ? ......... Why not ?

Edited April 13, 2022 by BigTone

[TonyTonyTony]

Danny Simpson 15 grand a week? Is that myth still doing the rounds?....

[Super]

So how much was Simpson actually on? Whatever it was it was too much...

[bcfcredandwhite]

25 minutes ago, bearded_red said:

Stopped reading after the suggestion that Danny Simpson was on 15k a week.

I’m sure the rest of your post was brilliant and I’m missing out.

I'm surprised you read as far as that, considering its a thread actually trying to hold Nigel Pearson to account. 

Anyway, if you are interested, here you go:

Nahki Wells £27,000
Tomáš Kalas £22,000
Kasey Palmer £20,000
Andreas Weimann £18,000
Danny Simpson £15,000
Daniel Bentley £14,000
Matty James £14,000
Joe Williams £10,000
Nathan Baker £9,000
Callum O'Dowda £8,400
Chris Martin £8,400

Source: Bristol City 2022 Wages | Player & Team totals (salarysport.com)

 

[Homer Simpson]

I can't take your views on other people's decision making seriously. Not when you choose to live in Swindon.

[bearded_red]

Just now, bcfcredandwhite said:

 

Anyway, if you are interested, here you go

 

I’m not the slightest bit interested in some made up numbers from the internet, thanks though!

[Sheltons Army]

here you go:

Nahki Wells £35,000
Tomáš Kalas £2,000
Kasey Palmer £50,000
Andreas Weimann £1,000
Danny Simpson £35,000
Daniel Bentley £400
Matty James £1000
Joe Williams £40,000
Nathan Baker £7.50
Callum O'Dowda £400
Chris Martin £820

Source: Bristol City 2022 Wages | Player & Team totals (imakethingsup.com)

[glynriley]

4 minutes ago, bcfcredandwhite said:

I'm surprised you read as far as that, considering its a thread actually trying to hold Nigel Pearson to account. 

Anyway, if you are interested, here you go:

Nahki Wells £27,000
Tomáš Kalas £22,000
Kasey Palmer £20,000
Andreas Weimann £18,000
Danny Simpson £15,000
Daniel Bentley £14,000
Matty James £14,000
Joe Williams £10,000
Nathan Baker £9,000
Callum O'Dowda £8,400
Chris Martin £8,400

Source: Bristol City 2022 Wages | Player & Team totals (salarysport.com)

 

[bcfcredandwhite]

2 minutes ago, bearded_red said:

I’m not the slightest bit interested in some made up numbers from the internet, thanks though!

So you don't believe the Wells and Palmer figures either then? Or is it just the Simpson figure you don't believe?

[Galley is our king]

1 minute ago, Sheltons Army said:

here you go:

Nahki Wells £35,000
Tomáš Kalas £2,000
Kasey Palmer £50,000
Andreas Weimann £1,000
Danny Simpson £35,000
Daniel Bentley £400
Matty James £1000
Joe Williams £40,000
Nathan Baker £7.50
Callum O'Dowda £400
Chris Martin £820

Source: Bristol City 2022 Wages | Player & Team totals (imakethingsup.com)

Blimey, no wonder no-one wants Palmer  

[bcfcredandwhite]

3 minutes ago, glynriley said:

So is everything on this forum

[bearded_red]

1 minute ago, bcfcredandwhite said:

So you don't believe the Wells and Palmer figures either then? Or is it just the Simpson figure you don't believe?

I don’t believe made up numbers from people guessing on the internet, it really is that simple.

Their guess on the two other players mentioned will be closer to being correct though, unlike the Simpson guess which may be the worst thing I’ve ever seen on the forum, to be honest.

[REDOXO]

There needs to be a clown emoji!

[Merrick's Marvels]

6 minutes ago, bcfcredandwhite said:

So is everything on this forum

Yep. Just some people can tell the difference between the "likely to be true" and the "likely to be bollocks" stuff.

You should try it, some time. 

Edited April 13, 2022 by Merrick's Marvels

[Silvio Dante]

18 minutes ago, bcfcredandwhite said:

I'm surprised you read as far as that, considering its a thread actually trying to hold Nigel Pearson to account. 

Anyway, if you are interested, here you go:

Nahki Wells £27,000
Tomáš Kalas £22,000
Kasey Palmer £20,000
Andreas Weimann £18,000
Danny Simpson £15,000
Daniel Bentley £14,000
Matty James £14,000
Joe Williams £10,000
Nathan Baker £9,000
Callum O'Dowda £8,400
Chris Martin £8,400

Source: Bristol City 2022 Wages | Player & Team totals (salarysport.com)

 

There is always a way to disprove things.

The easy way here is Weimann.

As seen above, for 2022 per that site he is on £18k p/w.

We know as fact we renegotiated his contract in summer 2021 as the option was at a higher level, and we did a three year deal on lower money. So logic confirms he was on more than £18k per week in 2020 etc.

Helpfully, Salarysport also gives the figures they’ve used for prior years. For Andi…

https://salarysport.com/football/player/andreas-weimann/

Yes, their salary for him in 2020 is the same as in 2022. Leading to the indisputable conclusion, they are totally guessing and have no idea who is paid what.

[Sheltons Army]

6 minutes ago, bearded_red said:

I don’t believe made up numbers from people guessing on the internet, it really is that simple.

Their guess on the two other players mentioned will be closer to being correct though, unlike the Simpson guess which may be the worst thing I’ve ever seen on the forum, to be honest.

Don’t knock the Internet

I’ve just checked the current League Table from the same site

 

Team	Pl	W	D	L	F	A	GD	Pts	Last 6
1	Fulham	40	25	8	7	94	35	59	83
2	Bournemouth	39	21	10	8	62	35	27	73
3	Bristol City	41	19	12	10	92	14	78	69
4	Nottingham Forest	39	19	10	10	61	36	25	67
5	Luton Town	41	18	11	12	59	47	12	65
6	Sheffield United	41	18	11	12	53	41	12	65
7	Blackburn Rovers	41	17	12	12	52	42	10	63
8	Middlesbrough	40	18	8	14	52	42	10	62
9	Millwall	41	16	13	12	45	40	5	61
10	Coventry City	41	16	11	14	54	51	3	59
11	Queens Park Rangers	41	17	8	16	55	53	2	59
12	West Bromwich Albion	41	15	12	14	45	40	5	57
13	Preston North End	41	14	15	12	43	46	-3	57
14	Barnsley	40	16	9	15	48	53	-5	57
15	Stoke City	41	15	10	16	53	47	6	55
16	Blackpool	40	14	11	15	44	47	-3	53
17	Peterborough United	40	14	7	19	47	61	-14	49
18	Birmingham City	41	11	12	18	43	60	-17	45
19	Huddersfield Town	41	12	9	20	52	73	-21	45
20	Hull City	41	12	8	21	34	45	-11	44
21	Reading *	41	12	7	22	48	77	-29	37
22	Swansea	40	6	11	23	30	59	-29	29
23	Derby County *	41	12	13	16	40	47	-7	28
24	Cardiff City (R)	41	0	8	33	34	82	-48	08

 

Im looking forward to the run in , and it shows what a great job Nigel Pearson is doing 

 

[Sir Geoff]

That has to be the biggest crock of sh.... that I have read on here for a long time.

Great foresight from NP. Contacting MA and SL 3 months before being offered the job to ask them to keep Fammy and run his contract down so that he would benefit from the so called 'value on the pitch decision.' Hilarious

[Lanterne Rouge]

11 minutes ago, Sheltons Army said:

Don’t knock the Internet

I’ve just checked the current League Table from the same site

 

Team	Pl	W	D	L	F	A	GD	Pts	Last 6
1	Fulham	40	25	8	7	94	35	59	83
2	Bournemouth	39	21	10	8	62	35	27	73
3	Bristol City	41	19	12	10	92	14	78	69
4	Nottingham Forest	39	19	10	10	61	36	25	67
5	Luton Town	41	18	11	12	59	47	12	65
6	Sheffield United	41	18	11	12	53	41	12	65
7	Blackburn Rovers	41	17	12	12	52	42	10	63
8	Middlesbrough	40	18	8	14	52	42	10	62
9	Millwall	41	16	13	12	45	40	5	61
10	Coventry City	41	16	11	14	54	51	3	59
11	Queens Park Rangers	41	17	8	16	55	53	2	59
12	West Bromwich Albion	41	15	12	14	45	40	5	57
13	Preston North End	41	14	15	12	43	46	-3	57
14	Barnsley	40	16	9	15	48	53	-5	57
15	Stoke City	41	15	10	16	53	47	6	55
16	Blackpool	40	14	11	15	44	47	-3	53
17	Peterborough United	40	14	7	19	47	61	-14	49
18	Birmingham City	41	11	12	18	43	60	-17	45
19	Huddersfield Town	41	12	9	20	52	73	-21	45
20	Hull City	41	12	8	21	34	45	-11	44
21	Reading *	41	12	7	22	48	77	-29	37
22	Swansea	40	6	11	23	30	59	-29	29
23	Derby County *	41	12	13	16	40	47	-7	28
24	Cardiff City (R)	41	0	8	33	34	82	-48	08

 

Im looking forward to the run in , and it shows what a great job Nigel Pearson is doing 

 

They got it wrong and have revised it now. We`re second on 81 points so no need to worry about the playoffs.

Happy days!

[GrahamC]

1 hour ago, bearded_red said:

Stopped reading after the suggestion that Danny Simpson was on 15k a week.

I’m sure the rest of your post was brilliant and I’m missing out.

Saved me posting the same thing, thanks.

What a clown.