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Silvio Dante

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4 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Yes, that is a fairly typical scenario from what others in the game have said.

Paying a lump sum is not good for FFP, when the remaining length of a contract is multi year.

Which is why I always chuckle to myself when supporters moan and cry about managers getting the sack when they have 2 or 3 years left on a contract, very unlikely the club would leave themselves open to shelling out the full amount, likely it is reviewed every 6 or 12 months with no more than 12 months severance as full and final settlement, and that would be spread out.

And could explain why Holden was appointed.

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22 minutes ago, billywedlock said:

There are , as ever , a multitude of contract options . I only have two scenarios that I have direct knowledge of . One was very much ( Prem) where the 3/4 year contract was paid in full . The other ( Champ) where it was a 12 month rolling contract and the payoff was 1 year . ( I Guess Holden was in that area ) 
 

As football manager is so unreliable , the majority will almost certainly have a protection as they know they will be sacked . Gardening leave is used sometimes , as it means club can spread payments , but also know that most will get offered another job , and will want to carry on so will get a release. 
 

Warburton is the one of the very few  times I can recall a manager just getting to the end of a contract . Roy at Palace another . 
 

Can you imagine how much Jose has made from being fired !!!! 

Watford would find it less expensive to fund revolutions.

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18 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said:

Looks like Tony Mowbray leaving Blackburn as well . OOC and said today he hasn’t been offered a new deal 

Managerial musical chairs.  Not beyond the realm of possibility that Mowbray could end up at QPR and Warburton at Blackburn.

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6 hours ago, BanburyRed said:

If he uses his loaf, he'll be back in work in no time.

There is that crumb of comfort.

Otherwise he’ll just be loafing around waiting for a job to come along.

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1 hour ago, steviestevieneville said:

Looks like Tony Mowbray leaving Blackburn as well . OOC and said today he hasn’t been offered a new deal 

Yes I was surprised. Just watched this. Wonder if club finances have anything to do with these decisions not to renew contracts - perhaps hoping for cheaper options. 

 

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21 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said:

Apologies, I meant proper achievements as in promotions - and moneyball examples, do they impress club owners?! How desperate ... 

Proving you bought a player, improved him on your watch, sold him at a profit for the club is a huge thing to put on your CV in the current game. Guarantee LJ will have a presentation on Josh Brownhill. Like it or not - that is the game.

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1 minute ago, TonyTonyTony said:

Proving you bought a player, improved him on your watch, sold him at a profit for the club is a huge thing to put on your CV in the current game. Guarantee LJ will have a presentation on Josh Brownhill. Like it or not - that is the game.

Fair enough, yet LJ still has zero proper achievements on his CV - but you seem to think developing a player for a profit is suddenly a modern thing - plenty of City managers can say they bought a player, improved them and sold them on for a profit - funny how that is deemed a ‘big thing’ these days -  we signed Akinbiyi for £1.2m and sold him for £3.5m - whoopee doo ... I doubt any of our managers involved in his development and onward sale would have kept a ‘presentation on him’ ... and should Tony Pulis put together a presentation because he sold youth team graduate Jim Brennan to Forest for £1.5m under his watch?! Although Osman, Lennartsson, Jordan and Ward also had influence on his career as managers ... lots of presentations there!

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20 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said:

Fair enough, yet LJ still has zero proper achievements on his CV - but you seem to think developing a player for a profit is suddenly a modern thing 

1) Define a proper achievement and why. Surely silverware is a proper achievement….

2) Why should Johnson not claim credit for developing a  Player under his watch and increasing his value? 

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