Clutton Caveman Posted May 3, 2022 Report Share Posted May 3, 2022 Whilst I can clearly see why Vyner and Bakinson got on the naughty step I am really struggling to understand why Pring is out of favour. During our worst form he was one of the few giving 100% where ever he was played and showed fight in the tackle and confidence to run with the ball. I hope he is still here next year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted May 3, 2022 Report Share Posted May 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, Clutton Caveman said: Whilst I can clearly see why Vyner and Bakinson got on the naughty step I am really struggling to understand why Pring is out of favour. During our worst form he was one of the few giving 100% where ever he was played and showed fight in the tackle and confidence to run with the ball. I hope he is still here next year. As far as I can gather, he is still paying the penalty for his last minute error away to Preston. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted May 3, 2022 Report Share Posted May 3, 2022 Lost his bus ticket, searching everywhere for it, currently looking down the back of the setee. I'm sure it will turn up just in time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted May 3, 2022 Report Share Posted May 3, 2022 Possibly because Jay Dasilva is in form and playing well ? NP dispelled any conspiracy theories in his Hull interview. But he should be on the bench, crazy not to have him in the 18 imo. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveF Posted May 3, 2022 Report Share Posted May 3, 2022 21 minutes ago, Clutton Caveman said: Whilst I can clearly see why Vyner and Bakinson got on the naughty step I am really struggling to understand why Pring is out of favour. During our worst form he was one of the few giving 100% where ever he was played and showed fight in the tackle and confidence to run with the ball. I hope he is still here next year. Pearson said Idehen is ahead of him at the moment. Presumably performing better in training which seems fair enough. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturny Posted May 3, 2022 Report Share Posted May 3, 2022 NP has just chosen the best of the two. Pring hasn't done anything "wrong" to be dropped. There's is just better now. It's strange but this is the sorta of stuff a turning point looks like, it's good. We got too used to having to play players like Vyner or Simpson because there was no better. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted May 3, 2022 Report Share Posted May 3, 2022 Think since the Swansea game when he was poor & Vyner ran out of chances, he’s only started 3 times & had been taken off early in 2 of those (Forest & Bournemouth). I’m not convinced Pearson is sure that as he’ll be 25 next season, he’s going to be good enough to consistently play at this level. The summer will be interesting to see what happens, he could stay & start next season as Dasilva’s understudy or he could move on to League One. I like his effort, although he appears to be the anti Vyner in that he never gets criticised whereas Zak constantly does, truth is though he’s lost his man several times leading to us conceding goals. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted May 3, 2022 Report Share Posted May 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Think since the Swansea game when he was poor & Vyner ran out of chances, he’s only started 3 times & had been taken off early in 2 of those (Forest & Bournemouth). I’m not convinced Pearson is sure that as he’ll be 25 next season, he’s going to be good enough to consistently play at this level. The summer will be interesting to see what happens, he could stay & start next season as Dasilva’s understudy or he could move on to League One. I like his effort, although he appears to be the anti Vyner in that he never gets criticised whereas Zak constantly does, truth is though he’s lost his man several times leading to us conceding goals. yes but so have others…? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James54De Posted May 3, 2022 Report Share Posted May 3, 2022 Well he recently signed a contract through to ‘25, so if Pearson doesn’t rate him we’ll be stuck with him for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted May 3, 2022 Report Share Posted May 3, 2022 16 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said: yes but so have others…? Who, that is still involved? Klose? Cundy? Atkinson? Dasilva? Don’t see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted May 3, 2022 Report Share Posted May 3, 2022 12 minutes ago, James54De said: Well he recently signed a contract through to ‘25, so if Pearson doesn’t rate him we’ll be stuck with him for a while. 2024 & I doubt he’s a high earner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRoss Posted May 3, 2022 Report Share Posted May 3, 2022 18 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Think since the Swansea game when he was poor & Vyner ran out of chances, he’s only started 3 times & had been taken off early in 2 of those (Forest & Bournemouth). I’m not convinced Pearson is sure that as he’ll be 25 next season, he’s going to be good enough to consistently play at this level. The summer will be interesting to see what happens, he could stay & start next season as Dasilva’s understudy or he could move on to League One. I like his effort, although he appears to be the anti Vyner in that he never gets criticised whereas Zak constantly does, truth is though he’s lost his man several times leading to us conceding goals. True but I would also add that not only his effort is likeable but he's impacted games in a much more positive way than Zak. I remember him driving forward and starting off attacks which was benefitting us. I'm sorry to say Vyner just isn't Championship standard just like we've established with Moore. I think its a simple case that Nigel prefers Idehen currently which takes up that bench spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted May 3, 2022 Report Share Posted May 3, 2022 I see little in it….long, hard, first season, catching up with him a bit. Nige has said he’s had a good season. Benarous staying in the 18 is just Nige trying to be as true to his selection “rules” as possible. Now for a big pre-season to really build him for the demands of Championship football. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engvall’s Splinter Posted May 3, 2022 Report Share Posted May 3, 2022 Don’t believe there is anything to see here. Players form drops off, doesn’t make squad. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobArnold10 Posted May 3, 2022 Report Share Posted May 3, 2022 Let’s say we keep Cundy and Klose. Sell Kalas, Vyner, Moore. That would give us: RB: Tanner CB: Klose, Atkinson, Cundy, Idehen LB: DaSilva, Pring Plus youth players still to come through. It’s pretty well documented we’re after an RB and another CB. That would be a fairly sensible squad numbers and talent wise. As for Pring, as others said, number of factors and in reality he’ll come back around. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Posted May 3, 2022 Report Share Posted May 3, 2022 I’ve been impressed by Pring this season. That late Preston equaliser can’t just be blamed on him. He was doing the right thing in driving forward and admittedly should have released the ball quicker - but it looked like a foul and there were enough City players behind the ball to have dealt with the counter attack. 54 minutes ago, Davefevs said: I see little in it….long, hard, first season, catching up with him a bit. Nige has said he’s had a good season. Benarous staying in the 18 is just Nige trying to be as true to his selection “rules” as possible. Now for a big pre-season to really build him for the demands of Championship football. Agree with this. Pre-season is going it be important for him. Quite often this season he hasn’t looked like he’s got the 90 mins in him yet. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZumerZetSmithy Posted May 3, 2022 Report Share Posted May 3, 2022 Not sure how true he so call had a go at Pearson for subbing him. I would of thought Pearson would like a bit of fight in a player 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted May 3, 2022 Report Share Posted May 3, 2022 6 hours ago, exAtyeoMax said: yes but so have others…? But the ones who’ve done it the most don’t play. We’ve all wanted a ruthless manager for years…….until the Manager starts being ruthless. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted May 3, 2022 Report Share Posted May 3, 2022 7 hours ago, Clutton Caveman said: Whilst I can clearly see why Vyner and Bakinson got on the naughty step I am really struggling to understand why Pring is out of favour. During our worst form he was one of the few giving 100% where ever he was played and showed fight in the tackle and confidence to run with the ball. I hope he is still here next year. Pearson said in a recent interview he’s done nothing wrong & has had a good breakthrough season. No conspiracy here. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted May 3, 2022 Report Share Posted May 3, 2022 He's just not as good as JD. Good squad player to have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAmNick Posted May 3, 2022 Report Share Posted May 3, 2022 9 minutes ago, Super said: He's just not as good as JD. Good squad player to have. To be slightly provocative given they're roughly the same age, and Pring has considerably less experience... is that a good squad player? If they think he has a higher potential than Jay he should probably have been playing, otherwise I think it'd be better to have a younger understudy (18 - 21) and more versatile older player to be your squad options. Pearson has also mentioned thoughts of turning Jay into a midfielder, he certainly has the technical ability in my opinion. Maybe that's the longer term plan, with Pring staying where he is. I guess one other reason to keep him is that his wages will be comparatively low, but I think we're getting past the days of hanging on to players just in case. As I said though, just playing devils advocate - I broadly like what I've seen of Pring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobintheRed Red Posted May 3, 2022 Report Share Posted May 3, 2022 5 hours ago, RobArnold10 said: Let’s say we keep Cundy and Klose. Sell Kalas, Vyner, Moore. That would give us: RB: Tanner CB: Klose, Atkinson, Cundy, Idehen LB: DaSilva, Pring Plus youth players still to come through. It’s pretty well documented we’re after an RB and another CB. That would be a fairly sensible squad numbers and talent wise. As for Pring, as others said, number of factors and in reality he’ll come back around. Would do this save on kallas wages havent missed him these lads at back getting better and stronger . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted May 3, 2022 Report Share Posted May 3, 2022 24 minutes ago, steviestevieneville said: Pearson said in a recent interview he’s done nothing wrong & has had a good breakthrough season. No conspiracy here. Yep. Not every non-selection has to have some sinister motive behind it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malago Posted May 3, 2022 Report Share Posted May 3, 2022 (edited) Perhaps idehan has been given preference over the last couple of weeks to incentivise him to sign his new contract. Edited May 3, 2022 by Malago 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted May 3, 2022 Report Share Posted May 3, 2022 32 minutes ago, Northern Red said: Yep. Not every non-selection has to have some sinister motive behind it. Or does it ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Journalist Posted May 3, 2022 Report Share Posted May 3, 2022 I think there's a real player in Pring (and I think Nigel does too) but he simply has to get fitter and more durable IMO. The season definitely caught up with him and the more tired you are the worse your decision making gets. We absolutely saw this with him at times. Career-defining summer coming up for him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted May 3, 2022 Report Share Posted May 3, 2022 Listen to what Pearson says. Nothing to see here. Any talk of missing the bus is just shit stirring 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tin Posted May 3, 2022 Report Share Posted May 3, 2022 8 hours ago, GrahamC said: Think since the Swansea game when he was poor & Vyner ran out of chances, he’s only started 3 times & had been taken off early in 2 of those (Forest & Bournemouth). I’m not convinced Pearson is sure that as he’ll be 25 next season, he’s going to be good enough to consistently play at this level. The summer will be interesting to see what happens, he could stay & start next season as Dasilva’s understudy or he could move on to League One. I like his effort, although he appears to be the anti Vyner in that he never gets criticised whereas Zak constantly does, truth is though he’s lost his man several times leading to us conceding goals. I don’t necessarily disagree with your point about Pring giving goals away, but since when has he ever been a CB? Never. Pring played his best football for us IMO when deployed on the left wing, enabling him to swing in quality crosses from deep. Vyner, on the other hand, is a defender. It’s his job to defend, and he’s crap at it IMO. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted May 3, 2022 Report Share Posted May 3, 2022 54 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: Listen to what Pearson says. Nothing to see here. Any talk of missing the bus is just shit stirring Yes but why deal in facts when you can make stuff up? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finley_Smith10 Posted May 3, 2022 Report Share Posted May 3, 2022 Ever since he’s been out the team and JD has been back in we look better at the back. I’d defo have him on the bench tho as can play a number of positions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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