RedM Posted May 11, 2022 Report Share Posted May 11, 2022 Maybe he like Scotland from when he was there as a player? Will McAllister link up with him again? I think Hibs is more likely than some clubs he has been previously linked to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeRed Posted May 11, 2022 Report Share Posted May 11, 2022 3 hours ago, Robbored said: He messed up at Sunderland when he suffered two hammerings in quick succession and pissing off some of the senior players which probably contributed to those heavy defeats I don't know why you feel it necessary to make things up to support your views. LJ lost ONE game 5 0. The previous 5 league games they were unbeaten and that run included a 3-0 and a 5-0 win , the others were a win v Plymouth and draws with Ipswich and Oxford. This is definitely true as results are on their OS ! 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic Robin Posted May 11, 2022 Report Share Posted May 11, 2022 1 hour ago, italian dave said: But he still won’t get a promotion on his CV! 27 minutes ago, Street red said: Even Barton's got one of those.. Does anyone know roughly what percentage of active EFL managers actually have a promotion on their CV? Or equally, the age at which the average manager wins his first promotion? or the frequency with which the average manager wins promotion? (e.g. once in every 15 seasons). I recall people quite frequently using the "no promotions as a manager" stick to beat LJ in the past and always felt like this might be a little harsh given how few years he'd been in management. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted May 11, 2022 Report Share Posted May 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, CodeRed said: I don't know why you feel it necessary to make things up to support your views. LJ lost ONE game 5 0. The previous 5 league games they were unbeaten and that run included a 3-0 and a 5-0 win , the others were a win v Plymouth and draws with Ipswich and Oxford. This is definitely true as results are on their OS ! It was 6-0 actually at Bolton, but your general point is correct, as they beat Pompey in the game before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tin Posted May 11, 2022 Report Share Posted May 11, 2022 Well, LJ always said he fancied managing abroad! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted May 11, 2022 Report Share Posted May 11, 2022 26 minutes ago, Supersonic Robin said: Does anyone know roughly what percentage of active EFL managers actually have a promotion on their CV? Or equally, the age at which the average manager wins his first promotion? or the frequency with which the average manager wins promotion? (e.g. once in every 15 seasons). I recall people quite frequently using the "no promotions as a manager" stick to beat LJ in the past and always felt like this might be a little harsh given how few years he'd been in management. Yes...and just to be clear my comment wasn't intended as a dig at LJ - I am not in the camp that like to use that stick. I just found it funny - given how often that stick is used - that he might go somewhere where he couldn't get a promotion! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercidered Posted May 11, 2022 Report Share Posted May 11, 2022 2 hours ago, Will Rollason said: Charlton... mid table league one.... decent team under Curbs back in the day Funny you should mention Curbs. I saw him yesterday at the Avon Gorge Hotel. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeRed Posted May 11, 2022 Report Share Posted May 11, 2022 49 minutes ago, Supersonic Robin said: Does anyone know roughly what percentage of active EFL managers actually have a promotion on their CV? Or equally, the age at which the average manager wins his first promotion? or the frequency with which the average manager wins promotion? (e.g. once in every 15 seasons). I recall people quite frequently using the "no promotions as a manager" stick to beat LJ in the past and always felt like this might be a little harsh given how few years he'd been in management. I was one of those using that particular stick to beat LJ, He's been a manager for over 8 seasons and 449 games - he's actually managed more games than he played (405). He's had just the one top 6 finish with Sunderland (4th). So he can no longer be classed as an "up and coming coach" and must IMO be judged on his record...................which is average. At one time there were very few managers in the Championship without a promotion on their CV but that's now changed, Steve Cooper for example doesn't have a promotion but he has reached the play offs in every season he's been the head coach! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted May 11, 2022 Report Share Posted May 11, 2022 Like Sunderland, would be a hell of a risk. Would be great for his stock if successful, but would hugely damage it if not. Just look at Sunderland gig, didn’t work, and now he’s gonna really struggle to get a solid top L1 job again, no Doubt why he’s talking to Hibs now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted May 11, 2022 Report Share Posted May 11, 2022 1 hour ago, CodeRed said: I don't know why you feel it necessary to make things up to support your views. LJ lost ONE game 5 0. They got hammered at least twice and iirc both heavy defeats weren’t too man games apart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted May 11, 2022 Report Share Posted May 11, 2022 3 hours ago, Robbored said: From what I’ve seen of Nige so far he fits that description pretty well - the first one since Danny Wilson. Danny Wilson?? You’re having a laugh!! The only thing he managed to do was build an attractive squad which achieved almost nothing, not least because he wasn’t a strong enough manager to sort out the drinking culture that was ruining our club. A dreadful waste of time and money. Astonishing that some fans still seem to think he was a good manager. He wasn’t. 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted May 11, 2022 Report Share Posted May 11, 2022 33 minutes ago, Robbored said: They got hammered at least twice and iirc both heavy defeats weren’t too man games apart. They were. You recall incorrectly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeRed Posted May 11, 2022 Report Share Posted May 11, 2022 28 minutes ago, Robbored said: They got hammered at least twice and iirc both heavy defeats weren’t too man games apart. They lost 3-1 to Lincoln 3 weeks before - hardly a hammering - and those ( Bolton & Lincoln) were their only 2 defeats during the whole of December and January. You're worse than Boris for making things up ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted May 11, 2022 Report Share Posted May 11, 2022 6 minutes ago, CodeRed said: They lost 3-1 to Lincoln 3 weeks before - hardly a hammering - and those ( Bolton & Lincoln) were their only 2 defeats during the whole of December and January. You're worse than Boris for making things up ! Think he’s talking about the 5-1 loss to Rotherham in October! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTonyTony Posted May 11, 2022 Report Share Posted May 11, 2022 Fairly sure LJ was sacked from Sunderland whilst being the current Manager of the month. I couldnt give a monkeys really, but it still seems an odd decision. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUTOR Posted May 11, 2022 Report Share Posted May 11, 2022 Would have thought he’s got one eye on the Forest Green situation now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted May 11, 2022 Report Share Posted May 11, 2022 14 minutes ago, TonyTonyTony said: Fairly sure LJ was sacked from Sunderland whilst being the current Manager of the month. I couldnt give a monkeys really, but it still seems an odd decision. Jamie McAllister told a friend of mine that their sackings ‘were a complete surprise at the time’ and ‘neither of us saw it coming’. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted May 11, 2022 Report Share Posted May 11, 2022 (edited) 48 minutes ago, TonyTonyTony said: Fairly sure LJ was sacked from Sunderland whilst being the current Manager of the month. I couldnt give a monkeys really, but it still seems an odd decision. Would they be in the play off final if they still had LJ? Difficult to say… they might have got autos, they might have missed out all together. But I bet most Mackems are happy with the decision to sack. Edit: just looked and they are happy. The general consensus is that he played very good football, but couldn’t sort their defence for shit. Which is bizarre because that’s almost the polar opposite of how he was here*. *barring the carabao cup 6 months. Edited May 11, 2022 by Fordy62 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted May 11, 2022 Report Share Posted May 11, 2022 3 hours ago, Street red said: Even Barton's got one of those.. By starting from a low base and then getting relegated… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuber Posted May 11, 2022 Report Share Posted May 11, 2022 7 hours ago, Negan said: This would be such a terrible move for him. I can’t believe his stock wasn’t higher after leaving us. It’s not like he left us at the bottom of the league after years of fighting relegation. Definitely deserved another club at our level. If he goes up there and it goes wrong he’ll do well to get above league 2, if it goes right it doesn’t really increase his stock anymore. Odd decision for him. Should hang on and wait for something like Rotherham or Peterborough. Even Derby should Rooney not stay. The issue is if you look at the more of our finances have been in due to the onset of his reign, it's doesn't read well. Granted, year on year improvement. However over the same period as noted elsewhere on this forum, wages to turnover rose 50%, irrespective of having Ashton above him, he himself stated he had final sign off on signings. Hence nobody else in the championship coming in for him. His man management is simply not good enough. See Fielding/Wilbs comments, etc. Similar at Sunderland it seems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy1968 Posted May 11, 2022 Report Share Posted May 11, 2022 3 hours ago, Supersonic Robin said: Does anyone know roughly what percentage of active EFL managers actually have a promotion on their CV? Or equally, the age at which the average manager wins his first promotion? or the frequency with which the average manager wins promotion? (e.g. once in every 15 seasons). I recall people quite frequently using the "no promotions as a manager" stick to beat LJ in the past and always felt like this might be a little harsh given how few years he'd been in management. Quite. And of the one's who've got one, who has got another? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted May 11, 2022 Report Share Posted May 11, 2022 Talking of Sottish football....which i rarely can be bothered with.............I see there's a real tense game tonight? .........Celtic, only 45 points ahead of tonight's opponents, can clinch "Yawn!!" the title tonight? Why don't they have a two legged game against Rangers in August, then just have the next 8 months off? ..............or even better still, add them to the English Championship, and see if they can both avoid being relegated??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 Mental Health Awareness Week: Ex-Sunderland manager Lee Johnson's secrets on how he's preparing for next role | Football News | Sky Sports Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoyo2345 Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 12 minutes ago, Super said: Mental Health Awareness Week: Ex-Sunderland manager Lee Johnson's secrets on how he's preparing for next role | Football News | Sky Sports Very interesting read. Us as fans probably don't realise how much an affect we can have on our managers well being. Good spot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinmans Love Child Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 18 hours ago, maxjak said: Talking of Sottish football....which i rarely can be bothered with.............I see there's a real tense game tonight? .........Celtic, only 45 points ahead of tonight's opponents, can clinch "Yawn!!" the title tonight? Why don't they have a two legged game against Rangers in August, then just have the next 8 months off? ..............or even better still, add them to the English Championship, and see if they can both avoid being relegated??? Remind me how Rangers did in Europe this year? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted May 12, 2022 Admin Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 37 minutes ago, Super said: Mental Health Awareness Week: Ex-Sunderland manager Lee Johnson's secrets on how he's preparing for next role | Football News | Sky Sports Sky sports news are showing an in depth interview with LJ on the show this morning, talking about him getting back into the game 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_eastender Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 Hopefully LJ will indeed get the Hibs job, makes it less likely that SL thinks about bringing him back here in any capacity! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 43 minutes ago, old_eastender said: Hopefully LJ will indeed get the Hibs job, makes it less likely that SL thinks about bringing him back here in any capacity! Would be the only way we’d ever get to see Lansdown’s cheque book again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 On 11/05/2022 at 13:28, Bouncearoundtheground said: Would have thought he’s got one eye on the Forest Green situation now. I don’t believe he’s interested in the FGR job. Maybe in a couple of years with the new stadium, better finances, etc, but not now. I also don’t believe the Hibs role is one he’s keen on. I’m thinking more League 1. Charlton was a decent shout from Graham, above. I wouldn’t rule out a return to Barnsley either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 8 hours ago, Tinmans Love Child said: Remind me how Rangers did in Europe this year? Every dog has its day.................and they haven't won anything yet? One of the main reasons they have had success in Europe IMHO is due to the fact they only play 4 or 5 difficult domestic games a season.....whereas Premier League sides hardly ever have an easy game? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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