1960maaan Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 Not a shock, high wages and he needs/wants to play. Just a reporters thoughts ATM, but I wouldn't be surprised. He could still sit on £20k plus a week for a year, though he doesn't strike me as the sort. Wrong time wrong place IMO, shame it didn't work out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 He clearly still has a very good relationship with QPR’s owner, so wonder if we’ve done this to see if they would be interested in taking on his contract & spreading it over 2 or 3 years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 How much did we pay for him? 5M? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 4 minutes ago, Super said: How much did we pay for him? 5M? In the region of. I don't imagine he has triggered any extras! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NcnsBcfc Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 To be fair, the only way we are going to get him off the wage bill is to forgo a fee for him. Otherwise we would get a small fee, and then probably end up having to subsidise his wages with another team for the remainder of next season. This seems the only plausible way out for both parties I think. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 Good. Him and Palmer off the books is great. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Fat Controller Posted May 12, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 I have some sympathy with him. His signing was ill thought out. He has never really fit with our style of play, whatever that is. Shunted out onto the left wing, never given a run of games up front, as he should be. Similar situation to Weimann to me, play him in the right position and he will score. According to NP, he is a model trainer and has asked to play for the U23's to stay fit. Good luck to him if he can find the right club to take him. 45 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 22 minutes ago, Rocky said: Good. Him and Palmer off the books is great. Where has there been mention of Palmer? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 (edited) 32 minutes ago, sinenomine said: I have some sympathy with him. His signing was ill thought out. He has never really fit with our style of play, whatever that is. Shunted out onto the left wing, never given a run of games up front, as he should be. Similar situation to Weimann to me, play him in the right position and he will score. According to NP, he is a model trainer and has asked to play for the U23's to stay fit. Good luck to him if he can find the right club to take him. Agree with this. I think it's a genuine shame with Wells and he's been quite hard done by by us. We bought him from Burnley at a point when he was clearly settled and comfortable at QPR and I suspect we weren't his preferred move. We then didn't really have a clear plan to use him and he's played for a succession of three different managers who all haven't really found a way to make the system work to get the best out of him. He's been forced out wide and made to do a lot of things that were not his natural game and I think the unfortunate truth is he was the wrong singing at the wrong time and his style of play does not fit in with the team. But, when he has played this season, he has always put a shift in and - as you say - Pearson suggests his attitude is excellent. If he goes, I think it is the right decision but I also hope he goes somewhere that get the best out of him and let him show how good he can undoubtedly be. Edited May 12, 2022 by LondonBristolian 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 I echo that I think he has been hard done by us. There was a lot of shouting for a proven championship striker - we bought one and had no idea how to fit him in. Lesson learned - championship quality isn't always a good idea and the right player is more important than the best player. Selling him for free would be expected IMHO, it's his contract that's the problem and I can't see anyone taking him on without us funding some of his contract - not sure how to get past that. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 38 minutes ago, Rocky said: Good. Him and Palmer off the books is great. Don't be counting those chickens just yet! Many a slip betwixt cup and lip, though if we do manage to offload both I'll be raising a glass to celebrate for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 29 minutes ago, cidered abroad said: Where has there been mention of Palmer? Seriously? Anyone who doesn’t think we are absolutely desperate to get that waste of space off the books is deluded. People are lumping him & Wells together & we definitely want to move both on, but in certain aspects the contrast is massive. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NcnsBcfc Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 14 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said: I can't see any of the players we want to get off the wage bill jumping at the first option, unless of course it is an unbelievable offer (unlikely). For the most part, their agents will be touting them around, and they will review the options after probably a holiday or something like that. All of this doesn't help RG with the budgeting for next season of course. Who would want to be him at the moment.....??? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NcnsBcfc Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 38 minutes ago, Pezo said: I echo that I think he has been hard done by us. There was a lot of shouting for a proven championship striker - we bought one and had no idea how to fit him in. Lesson learned - championship quality isn't always a good idea and the right player is more important than the best player. Selling him for free would be expected IMHO, it's his contract that's the problem and I can't see anyone taking him on without us funding some of his contract - not sure how to get past that. Didn't we do some sort of deal with Burnley as well around the Brownhill deal, to make it work financially for us? Probably blinded us somewhat to the type of player we were buying. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Pezo said: I echo that I think he has been hard done by us. There was a lot of shouting for a proven championship striker - we bought one and had no idea how to fit him in. Lesson learned - championship quality isn't always a good idea and the right player is more important than the best player. Selling him for free would be expected IMHO, it's his contract that's the problem and I can't see anyone taking him on without us funding some of his contract - not sure how to get past that. I agree with this by and large. LJ ably assisted by MA wanted a new toy and had no clue what to do with it. Rather like the kids who want something for Christmas that spend all day playing with the box. I was gutted for the guy when he got shunted wide, which of course happened with Afobi. Both of them behaved like model pros, but Afobi did say I’ll play anywhere for the team, which rather sounded like this bloke is clueless. Mr Pearson wants to play a certain way particularly going forward and Mr Wells simply isn’t part of that, however as Pearson has said the bloke is a model pro and clearly likes the fella! The only thing that makes sense is letting the guy go on a free and agree to make up what ever wage he gets to his current level for the remaining 12 months. As someone said earlier the Palmer situation is different. My personal opinion is there is a whole hell of a lot more to it than meets the eye! For a guy of that ability to just disappear is not fathomable, unless there was some other deep seated issue. I have wondered whether there is some issue that is not injury related akin to the ‘can of worms’ with the full back a few years ago, but I know nothing, purely speculation. The bigger issue is these two had a combine value at signing of over ten million. And without hammering this point home again (yes I know I am) is why we have FFP issues and now have to sell players that we/the club/Pearson have developed to pay for the idiocy of those that were in power. What truly bugs me is the constant referral to the Simpson bloke/failed signing as the stick to beat Pearson with. The development and sale of a Scott Semenyo Atkinson and even Weimann at 30 years of age is going to have to pay for the idiocy of the past and Pearson deserves massive credit for that (which to be fair many give him) 30 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said: Edited May 12, 2022 by REDOXO 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 30 minutes ago, NcnsBcfc said: Didn't we do some sort of deal with Burnley as well around the Brownhill deal, to make it work financially for us? Probably blinded us somewhat to the type of player we were buying. From memory we got £9m out of Burnley for Josh (who might well have been OoC that summer?) but it appeared clear that one condition for that was we paid £5m for Wells, even though the deals went through separately. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NcnsBcfc Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 1 minute ago, GrahamC said: From memory we got £9m out of Burnley for Josh (who might well have been OoC that summer?) but it appeared clear that one condition for that was we paid £5m for Wells, even though the deals went through separately. Sounds like something Ashton would do. You scratch my back etc.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 I suspect that many saw Wells's signing as giving us the 20 goal a season striker we lacked. The irony is that that 20 goal a season striker was here all the time! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NcnsBcfc Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 1 minute ago, GrahamC said: From memory we got £9m out of Burnley for Josh (who might well have been OoC that summer?) but it appeared clear that one condition for that was we paid £5m for Wells, even though the deals went through separately. Didn't Josh have a release clause in his contract as well? I think you're right about him going out of contract the next summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malago Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 (edited) Post also reporting the club want Andy King to stay another year due to his “ professionalism and influence on the younger players” The same virtues have widely been attributed to Nakhi Wells too, but given the difference in wages they obviously come at a price. Edited May 12, 2022 by Malago 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NcnsBcfc Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, downendcity said: I suspect that many saw Wells's signing as giving us the 20 goal a season striker we lacked. The irony is that that 20 goal a season striker was here all the time! The proper irony is that he nearly did in the 19/20 season. It was just that 75% of them were for QPR. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 2 hours ago, Super said: How much did we pay for him? 5M? Bristol City sign two strikers for combined 10 million plus pounds plus wages. And both could walk out of the club with no money back. No wonder we are in financial mess. ******* joke IMO 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NcnsBcfc Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 5 minutes ago, Malago said: Post also reporting the club want Andy King to stay another year due to his “ professionalism and influence on the younger players” Ian Gay will be gutted about having to send his season ticket back..... 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NcnsBcfc Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, Red Army 75 said: Bristol City sign two strikers for combined 10 million plus pounds plus wages. And both could walk out of the club with no money back. No wonder we are in financial mess. ******* joke IMO When you factor in other signings in the Summer 2019, the overall loss on those transfers of fees/wages is staggering. Best to have a stiff drink beforehand..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 42 minutes ago, billywedlock said: Wells wants to play, it is not a given he will not contribute to the move. There is always a compromise to be found. He does not want another season like this one at his age. Yeah I agree but I guess it's a balance he will have to make - 25k PW here not playing or likely 8k PW for next 3 years maybe playing, I guess it depends on what his expenses look like right now and if he can afford a more than 60% cut to his wages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 1 hour ago, NcnsBcfc said: Didn't we do some sort of deal with Burnley as well around the Brownhill deal, to make it work financially for us? Probably blinded us somewhat to the type of player we were buying. My understanding (FWIW) is that it ended up being more like: Brownhill £7m (from £9m) Wells £3m (from £5m) plus £1m promotion because that suited both clubs, mainly city in terms of paying less sell-on percentage to Preston as a result. Had City sold elsewhere they’d have wanted £9m, but as they could buy Wells, they lowered both fees. Could be total bollax, but the fee balances quite nicely with the club’s accounts too…so no reason to doubt person who told me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne allisons tongues Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 12 minutes ago, Pezo said: Yeah I agree but I guess it's a balance he will have to make - 25k PW here not playing or likely 8k PW for next 3 years maybe playing, I guess it depends on what his expenses look like right now and if he can afford a more than 60% cut to his wages. Maybe we pay him £8k pw for 3 seasons and his new club gives him the same. Means we save on wages but not sure how it would work out on his transfer fee amortisation wise if he goes for nothing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NcnsBcfc Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 And so the summer nonsense begins. Burton & Fleetwood???? Yep, I can see both of them meeting his wage demands. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James54De Posted May 12, 2022 Report Share Posted May 12, 2022 (edited) . Edited May 12, 2022 by James54De 1 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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