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6 hours ago, PHILINFRANCE said:

I don't want to digress too much from the heartwarming story of this brave young man, but I always felt that the 'homophobic chanting' directed at Brighton fans was more in the line of friendly banter.

Whilst there have been some awful homophobic chants against certain individuals - no need to repeat them all on here, but some that stick in my mind include the ubiquitous 'Chelsea rentboy' at any young Chelsea loanee and various chants over the years directed towards Graeme Le Saux, who, to his embarrassment, was found, not only to have attended university but also to read The Guardian and have an interest in art 😉 - the Brighton chants seemed to be more in the line of 'We can see you holding hands'.

Anyway, Well Done young Jake Daniels and Good Luck.     

 

I think you should do some research on Graeme Le Saux and the impact those chants had on him and his career. And that is why these announcements are so important 

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2 hours ago, SecretSam said:

**** me, I actually had to look that up. Are you seriously equating someone being gay with paedophilia? Take a look at yourself, FFS.

I’ve just had to look it up aswell. Absolutely staggering.
Troll or not to publicly say that paedophilia and being gay are somehow on a par makes me extremely concerned about who the F the poster is. Red flag behaviour if ever i have seen it and it i would even go as far as saying it needs to be reported.

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5 hours ago, Lewisdabaron said:

Just putting it out there to see what the response would be if a player came out as a MAP, without committing any illegal act.
Would being an open MAP also be classed as being brave & something we should celebrate, in the same way as coming out as gay?

 You've had a bit of a mare there mate. 

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... and I still have no idea what a ******* MAP is.

Oh, I'm told that Ordnance Survey still make them. Silly me.

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6 hours ago, Lewisdabaron said:

Just putting it out there to see what the response would be if a player came out as a MAP, without committing any illegal act.
Would being an open MAP also be classed as being brave & something we should celebrate, in the same way as coming out as gay?

Hard drive check needed.

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8 minutes ago, Lewisdabaron said:

Strange no one has replied with a genuine answer to a geniune question.

Only berated me.

That’s OTIB for you though.

I wont lose any sleep. 👍 

You cant compare the two

I  guess paedophiles cant help the way they are and might want to be heterosexual. 

There was a film starring kevin bacon , I've not watched it though.

Lois theroux's also did a documentary about it in outwardly being a Map .

Seeing a squad of footballers getting unchanged though , got to think at least one is fit I would think. Imagine being in a room with a bunch of females getting naked .

Fair play to the lad , I'd have no problem with being in the changing room with him.

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7 minutes ago, Lewisdabaron said:

Strange no one has replied with a genuine answer to a geniune question.

Only berated me.

That’s OTIB for you though.

I wont lose any sleep. 👍 

You really think someone admitting to being one step removed from being a paedophile should be celebrated in the same way as someone in the public eye coming out as gay? Or even that those two things should be discussed in the same sentence or thread? What are you expecting people to say in response to your ‘genuine’ question? “Oh yes, we should welcome potential paedophiles with open arms into football” The key difference of course is that acting upon one urge would be criminal and the other would not.

As said before the fact that you equate a potential sex offender to a homosexual says a lot about you.

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1 hour ago, gl1 said:

lastly let’s not too woke, the jokes about ‘leaving the back door open’ are just funny. 

5Live seamlessly, and without taking a breath, went from reporting on Jake Daniels to reading out an email about a listener working as a banana packer. They described the handling of bananas, discussed banana size, it really was quite the segue.

1 hour ago, TomF said:

The twitter post from Blackpool is an absolute horror show.  Every PL team has quoted it offering support and then the replies to each are awful. 

Which really just tells you that there are different consequences for an expressly homophobic corporation with a brand to protect and an expressly homophobic individual without such.

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23 minutes ago, Lewisdabaron said:

Strange no one has replied with a genuine answer to a geniune question.

Only berated me.

That’s OTIB for you though.

I wont lose any sleep. 👍 

A reasonable analogy would be the difference between a player openly becoming religious, and a player admitting to watching/engaging in extreme religious indoctrination inciting violence. 
 

ie no one who is sane thinks Mo Salah is a terrorist just because he’s Muslim for example

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21 minutes ago, Lewisdabaron said:

Strange no one has replied with a genuine answer to a geniune question.

Only berated me.

That’s OTIB for you though.

I wont lose any sleep. 👍 

How is comparing somebody who attracted to minors to homosexual/homosexuality as a genuine question? It isn’t and it has only and purpose and that is to provoke and troll.
 

 

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3 minutes ago, bris red said:

How is comparing somebody who attracted to minors to homosexual/homosexuality as a genuine question? It isn’t and it has only and purpose and that is to provoke and troll.
 

 

Im not comparing them. 

15 minutes ago, KegCity said:

Hard drive check needed.

For who? The MAP? Probably they do, yes. 

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13 minutes ago, Murraysrightplum said:

You really think someone admitting to being one step removed from being a paedophile should be celebrated in the same way as someone in the public eye coming out as gay? Or even that those two things should be discussed in the same sentence or thread? What are you expecting people to say in response to your ‘genuine’ question? “Oh yes, we should welcome potential paedophiles with open arms into football” The key difference of course is that acting upon one urge would be criminal and the other would not.

As said before the fact that you equate a potential sex offender to a homosexual says a lot about you.

Apparantly you cant chose your sexuality, right? 

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1 hour ago, Murraysrightplum said:

I think you should do some research on Graeme Le Saux and the impact those chants had on him and his career. And that is why these announcements are so important 

Thank You for your response, but I am aware of the impact homophobic chants from opposing crowds had on Graeme Le Saux's career and, more importantly, on his life in general; hence the reason I referred to them as being awful.

You may find this truly enlightening article interesting. It is quite long, but well worth the read, I assure you.

https://thesefootballtimes.co/2019/01/31/graeme-le-sauxs-battle-against-homophobic-abuse-and-why-the-door-is-opening-for-gay-players-to-come-out-in-football/

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Its pronoun crazy at senior schools in bristol at the moment it seems. 13 year old Girls identifying as boys and calling themselves they is relatively normal

Its good to push it to an extent however,  I'm wondering being that young that they dont really understand and this may cause mental health issues down the road.

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2 minutes ago, When the river runs said:

Its pronoun crazy at senior schools in bristol at the moment it seems. 13 year old Girls identifying as boys and calling themselves they is relatively normal

Its good to push it to an extent however,  I'm wondering being that young that they dont really understand and this may cause mental health issues down the road.

Again, totally different discussion and off topic 

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17 minutes ago, When the river runs said:

You cant compare the two

I  guess paedophiles cant help the way they are and might want to be heterosexual. 

Seeing a squad of footballers getting unchanged though , got to think at least one is fit I would think. Imagine being in a room with a bunch of females getting naked .

Fair play to the lad , I'd have no problem with being in the changing room with him.

I think you might want to look up the meanings of Paedophile and Heterosexual.

Your comment about watching a squad of footballers getting unchanged is unworthy of a response.

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9 minutes ago, Lewisdabaron said:

Im not comparing them.

Oh no you were 'simply asking what would be the response if a footballer came out as openly being a MAP' on a thread about the first openly gay male footballer in 32 years. Then deflect every comment back at you as you still can't see how this isn't a genuine question in an appropriate topic. 

That's OTIB for you. We won't lose any sleep 👍

 

 

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2 minutes ago, When the river runs said:

Not really LGBTQ 

You've responded though 🤣

Didn’t bait you or rise to you just suggested it’s off topic. Which it is

how is what you said related to a footballer declaring his homosexuality. 

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5 minutes ago, PHILINFRANCE said:

I think you might want to look up the meanings of Paedophile and Heterosexual.

Your comment about watching a squad of footballers getting unchanged is unworthy of a response.

So if you were in a changing room of twenty females getting naked , you are likely to be attracted to at least one, if not many. Otherwise I would suggest you are not heterosexual . 

Doesnt mean you lose control and start groping them. 

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7 hours ago, Lewisdabaron said:

Just putting it out there to see what the response would be if a player came out as a MAP, without committing any illegal act.
Would being an open MAP also be classed as being brave & something we should celebrate, in the same way as coming out as gay?

This is your original question. The answer is categorically no. I imagine that person would be asking for help rather than asking to be accepted as just another one of the team. The reason? They are quite likely to engage in criminal activity with a minor or by watching those activities on the internet, which is also illegal. I’m surprised this is so difficult for you

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1 hour ago, Lewisdabaron said:

Strange no one has replied with a genuine answer to a geniune question.

Only berated me.

That’s OTIB for you though.

I wont lose any sleep. 👍 

I'll give a genuine answer, but I really think it's fairly obvious.

A person attracted to minors is a person attracted to a vulnerable member of society.. whilst it would be brave to announce you were, it would not be something to celebrate.

Someone gay is someone attracted to a member of the opposite sex rather than a vulnerable segment.

Really shouldn't need explaining. 

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In order for it not to be a thing, first it has to be a thing, and celebrated. 

Hopefully 10 years from now, this will be looked upon as a basecamp moment on the road to normality and acceptance, and as a result irrelevance. 

 

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2 hours ago, When the river runs said:

Its pronoun crazy at senior schools in bristol at the moment it seems. 13 year old Girls identifying as boys and calling themselves they is relatively normal

Its good to push it to an extent however,  I'm wondering being that young that they dont really understand and this may cause mental health issues down the road.

Kids (and adults) do all kind of things at a young age to try and discover who they are. I expect if you think back to yourself in senior school and some of the things you did (or didn't do) you'd find the same. Young people have always experimented with this stuff.

I don't know of any evidence of doing what you're mentioning causing mental health issues.

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