Major Isewater Posted May 30, 2022 Report Share Posted May 30, 2022 (edited) Surely there must have been British football hooligans at this crucial ligue 1 match . This sort of thing doesn’t happen in France… Talking of ‘ugly ‘ scenes on the pitch , congratulations to Pug for his promotion with Forest. Edited May 30, 2022 by Major Isewater 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Army 75 Posted May 30, 2022 Report Share Posted May 30, 2022 (edited) Tried to upload video but just a blank screen appears Some unbelievable footage from that game last night. Shocking stuff Edited May 30, 2022 by Red Army 75 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted May 30, 2022 Report Share Posted May 30, 2022 https://youtu.be/DICdP7Mkj50 Had two ground closures already this year for trouble and pyrotechnics! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted May 30, 2022 Report Share Posted May 30, 2022 somebody posted it last night, on another thread. Shocking behaviour! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted May 30, 2022 Report Share Posted May 30, 2022 (edited) https://youtu.be/odXmVXxKilg From the stand Edited May 30, 2022 by exAtyeoMax 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2015 Posted May 30, 2022 Report Share Posted May 30, 2022 French football this season has been marred by incidents of players being attacked. Pretty sure a couple of Marseille games got stopped because of the violence the fans were causing. Seems to be a trend happening not just in England 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazred Posted May 30, 2022 Report Share Posted May 30, 2022 My in-laws are all Lyon supporters, even the extended family apart from 1 cousin who for some reason went for their arch rivals, Les Verts He will be livid with the result and embarassed by the aftermath. Saw him at Easter and when discussing their season so far, he'd said it had been crap and that they'd had crowd problems this season and it's brought more than a fair share of nutters out. We briefly discussed the one thing City and SE have in common, Lois Diony. When i mentined him, he made a pucking noise, then went on a rant where i can only gather that he doesn;'t rate him and doesn't like his mother much either! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted May 30, 2022 Report Share Posted May 30, 2022 French up for a fight. The only country left in Western Europe which has militant trade unionism. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ciderhead433 Posted May 30, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 30, 2022 8 minutes ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said: French up for a fight. The only country left in Western Europe which has militant trade unionism. I would say the only country where the workers will fight for their rights 27 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted May 30, 2022 Report Share Posted May 30, 2022 Sad. Brilliant atmosphere there, way better than Lyon. However this is clearly terrible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV Tom Posted May 30, 2022 Report Share Posted May 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Ciderhead433 said: I would say the only country where the workers will fight for their rights Well said, shocking how the unions are demonised in this country 12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted May 30, 2022 Report Share Posted May 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Ciderhead433 said: I would say the only country where the workers will fight for their rights Isn't that tautological? Your just repeating exactly what was already expressed? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted May 30, 2022 Report Share Posted May 30, 2022 I never get the confused emoji? Is it an expression of a lack of comprehension or a glib inability to express thoughts? Doh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted May 30, 2022 Report Share Posted May 30, 2022 Crazy scenes at full time, throwing flares at their players and the tunnel area Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciderhead433 Posted May 30, 2022 Report Share Posted May 30, 2022 5 hours ago, maxjak said: I never get the confused emoji? Is it an expression of a lack of comprehension or a glib inability to express thoughts? Doh! I think the confused emoji? means we don't know WTF you are talking about Doh? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted May 30, 2022 Report Share Posted May 30, 2022 3 hours ago, Ciderhead433 said: I think the confused emoji? means we don't know WTF you are talking about Doh? Have you ever heard of a site called GOOGLE? Doh! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Red Posted May 31, 2022 Report Share Posted May 31, 2022 18 hours ago, Major Isewater said: Surely there must have been British football hooligans at this crucial ligue 1 match . This sort of thing doesn’t happen in France… Talking of ‘ugly ‘ scenes on the pitch , congratulations to Pug for his promotion with Forest. Fucking animals. Certainly not condoning what happened to Billy Sharp or the Aston Villa goalkeeper over here but i think the violence in France gives some sort of perspective that in actual fact things are a LOT worse on the continent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted May 31, 2022 Report Share Posted May 31, 2022 1 hour ago, bris red said: ******* animals. Certainly not condoning what happened to Billy Sharp or the Aston Villa goalkeeper over here but i think the violence in France gives some sort of perspective that in actual fact things are a LOT worse on the continent. There's something in "France is ahead of the first world in all problems and behind in solving most of them". They always seem to surface social problems 5/10 years before anyone else. If you want to see what most first world countries will be like in 5/10 years just look at France. Obviously policy can be changed to preempt the challenges in most cases but sometimes you need the problem to solve to justify the policy change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciderhead433 Posted May 31, 2022 Report Share Posted May 31, 2022 9 hours ago, maxjak said: Have you ever heard of a site called GOOGLE? Doh! I didn't need it in this case I already know the answer Doh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted May 31, 2022 Report Share Posted May 31, 2022 7 hours ago, bris red said: ******* animals. Certainly not condoning what happened to Billy Sharp or the Aston Villa goalkeeper over here but i think the violence in France gives some sort of perspective that in actual fact things are a LOT worse on the continent. Certainly is yet more evidence that football hooliganism isn't - and never was - "the English disease". I'd say it was invented in Scotland, refined in Italy and is now in its apogee in Argentina, Eastern Europe and parts of Africa. France looks like it's got a shout to be involved though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS2 Red Posted June 1, 2022 Report Share Posted June 1, 2022 21 hours ago, Red-Robbo said: Certainly is yet more evidence that football hooliganism isn't - and never was - "the English disease". I'd say it was invented in Scotland, refined in Italy and is now in its apogee in Argentina, Eastern Europe and parts of Africa. France looks like it's got a shout to be involved though! I wondered how it actually started and found this on Wikipedia. I blame the Byzantines! And 70 year old drunk women! Violence generally associated with team sporting events and their outcomes possesses a documented history, going at least as far back as the Nika Riotsduring the Byzantine Empire. The first instance of violence associated with modern team sports is unknown, but the phenomenon of football related violence can be traced back to 14th-century England. In 1314, Edward II banned football (at that time, a violent, unruly activity involving rival villages kicking a pig's bladder across the local heath) because he believed the disorder surrounding matches might lead to social unrest, or even treason.[8] According to a University of Liverpool academic paper, conflict at an 1846 match in Derby, England, required a reading of the riot act and two groups of dragoons to effectively respond to the disorderly crowd. This same paper also identified "pitch invasions" as a common occurrence during the 1880s in English football.[9] The first recorded instances of football hooliganism in the modern game allegedly occurred during the 1880s in England, a period when gangs of supporters would intimidate neighbourhoods, in addition to attacking referees, opposing supporters and players. In 1885, after Preston North End beat Aston Villa 5–0 in a friendly match, both teams were pelted with stones, attacked with sticks, punched, kicked and spat at. One Preston player was beaten so severely that he lost consciousness and press reports at the time described the fans as "howling roughs".[8] The following year, Preston fans fought Queen's Park fans in a railway station—the first alleged instance of football hooliganism outside of a match. In 1905, a number of Preston fans were triedfor hooliganism, including a "drunk and disorderly" 70-year-old woman, following their match against Blackburn Rovers.[8] Although instances of football crowd violence and disorder have been a feature of association football throughout its history[10] (e.g. Millwall's ground was reportedly closed in 1920, 1934 and 1950 after crowd disturbances), the phenomenon only started to gain the media's attention in the late 1950s due to the re-emergence of violence in Latin American football. In the 1955–56 English football season, Liverpool and Everton fans were involved in a number of incidents and, by the 1960s, an average of 25 hooligan incidents were being reported each year in England. The label "football hooliganism" first began to appear in the English media in the mid-1960s,[11] leading to increased media interest in, and reporting of, acts of disorder. It has been argued that this, in turn, created a 'moral panic' out of proportion with the scale of the actual problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted June 1, 2022 Report Share Posted June 1, 2022 9 minutes ago, BS2 Red said: I wondered how it actually started and found this on Wikipedia. I blame the Byzantines! And 70 year old drunk women! Violence generally associated with team sporting events and their outcomes possesses a documented history, going at least as far back as the Nika Riotsduring the Byzantine Empire. The first instance of violence associated with modern team sports is unknown, but the phenomenon of football related violence can be traced back to 14th-century England. In 1314, Edward II banned football (at that time, a violent, unruly activity involving rival villages kicking a pig's bladder across the local heath) because he believed the disorder surrounding matches might lead to social unrest, or even treason.[8] According to a University of Liverpool academic paper, conflict at an 1846 match in Derby, England, required a reading of the riot act and two groups of dragoons to effectively respond to the disorderly crowd. This same paper also identified "pitch invasions" as a common occurrence during the 1880s in English football.[9] The first recorded instances of football hooliganism in the modern game allegedly occurred during the 1880s in England, a period when gangs of supporters would intimidate neighbourhoods, in addition to attacking referees, opposing supporters and players. In 1885, after Preston North End beat Aston Villa 5–0 in a friendly match, both teams were pelted with stones, attacked with sticks, punched, kicked and spat at. One Preston player was beaten so severely that he lost consciousness and press reports at the time described the fans as "howling roughs".[8] The following year, Preston fans fought Queen's Park fans in a railway station—the first alleged instance of football hooliganism outside of a match. In 1905, a number of Preston fans were triedfor hooliganism, including a "drunk and disorderly" 70-year-old woman, following their match against Blackburn Rovers.[8] Although instances of football crowd violence and disorder have been a feature of association football throughout its history[10] (e.g. Millwall's ground was reportedly closed in 1920, 1934 and 1950 after crowd disturbances), the phenomenon only started to gain the media's attention in the late 1950s due to the re-emergence of violence in Latin American football. In the 1955–56 English football season, Liverpool and Everton fans were involved in a number of incidents and, by the 1960s, an average of 25 hooligan incidents were being reported each year in England. The label "football hooliganism" first began to appear in the English media in the mid-1960s,[11] leading to increased media interest in, and reporting of, acts of disorder. It has been argued that this, in turn, created a 'moral panic' out of proportion with the scale of the actual problem. Exactly, and people think it all began in the 70s! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebounder Posted June 1, 2022 Report Share Posted June 1, 2022 (edited) 35 minutes ago, BS2 Red said: I wondered how it actually started and found this on Wikipedia. I blame the Byzantines! And 70 year old drunk women! Violence generally associated with team sporting events and their outcomes possesses a documented history, going at least as far back as the Nika Riotsduring the Byzantine Empire. The first instance of violence associated with modern team sports is unknown, but the phenomenon of football related violence can be traced back to 14th-century England. In 1314, Edward II banned football (at that time, a violent, unruly activity involving rival villages kicking a pig's bladder across the local heath) because he believed the disorder surrounding matches might lead to social unrest, or even treason.[8] According to a University of Liverpool academic paper, conflict at an 1846 match in Derby, England, required a reading of the riot act and two groups of dragoons to effectively respond to the disorderly crowd. This same paper also identified "pitch invasions" as a common occurrence during the 1880s in English football.[9] The first recorded instances of football hooliganism in the modern game allegedly occurred during the 1880s in England, a period when gangs of supporters would intimidate neighbourhoods, in addition to attacking referees, opposing supporters and players. In 1885, after Preston North End beat Aston Villa 5–0 in a friendly match, both teams were pelted with stones, attacked with sticks, punched, kicked and spat at. One Preston player was beaten so severely that he lost consciousness and press reports at the time described the fans as "howling roughs".[8] The following year, Preston fans fought Queen's Park fans in a railway station—the first alleged instance of football hooliganism outside of a match. In 1905, a number of Preston fans were triedfor hooliganism, including a "drunk and disorderly" 70-year-old woman, following their match against Blackburn Rovers.[8] Although instances of football crowd violence and disorder have been a feature of association football throughout its history[10] (e.g. Millwall's ground was reportedly closed in 1920, 1934 and 1950 after crowd disturbances), the phenomenon only started to gain the media's attention in the late 1950s due to the re-emergence of violence in Latin American football. In the 1955–56 English football season, Liverpool and Everton fans were involved in a number of incidents and, by the 1960s, an average of 25 hooligan incidents were being reported each year in England. The label "football hooliganism" first began to appear in the English media in the mid-1960s,[11] leading to increased media interest in, and reporting of, acts of disorder. It has been argued that this, in turn, created a 'moral panic' out of proportion with the scale of the actual problem. The greens and blues. I remember listening to a podcast about Byzantium and there were long sections on it. They were often used by different ruling factions to dominate the other and I think they potentially played a role in overthrowing a leader but it's ages since I listened to it. There's and article about it, but I just skimmed. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/blue-versus-green-rocking-the-byzantine-empire-113325928/ Edited June 1, 2022 by Rebounder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS2 Red Posted June 1, 2022 Report Share Posted June 1, 2022 22 minutes ago, Rebounder said: The greens and blues. I remember listening to a podcast about Byzantium and there were long sections on it. They were often used by different ruling factions to dominate the other and I think they potentially played a role in overthrowing a leader but it's ages since I listened to it. There's and article about it, but I just skimmed. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/blue-versus-green-rocking-the-byzantine-empire-113325928/ The trouble with the Greens is that, since they got bought out by King Godomar, there is no soul left in the club. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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