Rob k Posted June 5, 2022 Report Share Posted June 5, 2022 12 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Cancel that, just seen it again……eke! Soft but a pen for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Londoner Posted June 5, 2022 Report Share Posted June 5, 2022 How is it fair to have a one off final at one teams stadium. I know they’ve tried milking these playoffs by having more teams than normal involved but surely a one off match where the winner goes to the World Cup should be played in a neutral stadium Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted June 5, 2022 Report Share Posted June 5, 2022 1 minute ago, East Londoner said: How is it fair to have a one off final at one teams stadium. I know they’ve tried milking these playoffs by having more teams than normal involved but surely a one off match where the winner goes to the World Cup should be played in a neutral stadium Odd. Two legs would make sense, although tricky for Ukraine just now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted June 5, 2022 Report Share Posted June 5, 2022 7 minutes ago, East Londoner said: How is it fair to have a one off final at one teams stadium. I know they’ve tried milking these playoffs by having more teams than normal involved but surely a one off match where the winner goes to the World Cup should be played in a neutral stadium Because Wales have earned the right due to a better qualification campaign. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRock Posted June 5, 2022 Report Share Posted June 5, 2022 Russian VAR. Clear penalty that was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B1ackbird Posted June 5, 2022 Report Share Posted June 5, 2022 They could well rue that miss.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malago Posted June 5, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, B1ackbird said: They could well rue that miss.... Let’s hope so. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Londoner Posted June 5, 2022 Report Share Posted June 5, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: Because Wales have earned the right due to a better qualification campaign. That doesn’t make it fair though especially when every other year it’s over two legs. Obviously Ukraine would’ve had to hold theirs at a neutral stadium Edited June 5, 2022 by East Londoner Autocorrect 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted June 5, 2022 Report Share Posted June 5, 2022 10 minutes ago, Rob k said: Soft but a pen for me It always seems harsh to me when Player A is going to play the ball, then gets penalised when Player B (maybe deliberately) puts his foot between A’s foot and the ball at the last second. Who is creating the contact? I think B is and it shouldn’t be a foul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted June 5, 2022 Report Share Posted June 5, 2022 8 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: Because Wales have earned the right due to a better qualification campaign. That's just daft. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted June 5, 2022 Report Share Posted June 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, East Londoner said: That doesn’t make it fair though especially when every other year it’s over two legs. Obviously Ukraine would’ve had to hold theirs at a neutral stadium Ukraine have played an extra game as well, having to beat Scotland. Is that not fair? They have changed the way qualifying works so anything that has happened before isn’t relevant. Everyone knew the rules before so it seems very fair. Have a better qualification campaign and get rewarded for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted June 5, 2022 Report Share Posted June 5, 2022 1 hour ago, And Its Smith said: I usually want all the home nations to win but it’s hard not to want Ukraine given the country’s circumstances PS not Scotland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted June 5, 2022 Report Share Posted June 5, 2022 Just now, SecretSam said: That's just daft. Is it? Some people want to the EFL play offs to be 6th v 5th, that winner v 4th and that winner v 3rd. This is similar. Can’t see that rewarding the teams with a better campaign in a play off scenario is daft 1 minute ago, SecretSam said: PS not Scotland I want Scotland to win when they play in qualifiers. The more home nations at a major tournament the better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!james Posted June 5, 2022 Report Share Posted June 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: Ukraine have played an extra game as well, having to beat Scotland. Is that not fair? They have changed the way qualifying works so anything that has happened before isn’t relevant. Everyone knew the rules before so it seems very fair. Have a better qualification campaign and get rewarded for it Not an extra game, Wales beat Austria in March. The Ukraine/Scotland game was due to be played then too but postponed due to the war. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted June 5, 2022 Report Share Posted June 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: I want Scotland to win when they play in qualifiers. The more home nations at a major tournament the better. I never want Scotland to win. Ireland, Wales, sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malago Posted June 5, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: Ukraine have played an extra game as well, having to beat Scotland. Is that not fair? They have changed the way qualifying works so anything that has happened before isn’t relevant. Everyone knew the rules before so it seems very fair. Have a better qualification campaign and get rewarded for it Wales beat Austria to get to this game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted June 5, 2022 Report Share Posted June 5, 2022 Just now, SecretSam said: I never want Scotland to win. Ireland, Wales, sure. Any logical reason or just blind hatred? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted June 5, 2022 Report Share Posted June 5, 2022 Just now, Leveller said: Any logical reason or just blind hatred? Why would it be hatred? I have Welsh and Irish blood (German, too ). No Scottish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bredwood Posted June 5, 2022 Report Share Posted June 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, Leveller said: It always seems harsh to me when Player A is going to play the ball, then gets penalised when Player B (maybe deliberately) puts his foot between A’s foot and the ball at the last second. Who is creating the contact? I think B is and it shouldn’t be a foul. Have to say I agree with this. However, this season there were quite a few penalties given for similar tackles in the EPL. Though that probably shows a difference in interpretation between refs in England and the rest of Europe where they probably take intent into account. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazelboy Posted June 5, 2022 Report Share Posted June 5, 2022 Both look rubbish so good news for England! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted June 5, 2022 Report Share Posted June 5, 2022 Wales seem to be a very lucky team and I'm still yet to see any difference between Dan James and Ivan Sproule 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedorDead BCFC Posted June 5, 2022 Report Share Posted June 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, SecretSam said: Why would it be hatred? I have Welsh and Irish blood (German, too ). No Scottish. Lots of Welsh blood in Bristol due to the war. My cousins in their 30’s didn’t know our Nan was Welsh as she died when they were young. The look on their faces was priceless when I told them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted June 5, 2022 Report Share Posted June 5, 2022 28 minutes ago, East Londoner said: How is it fair to have a one off final at one teams stadium. I know they’ve tried milking these playoffs by having more teams than normal involved but surely a one off match where the winner goes to the World Cup should be played in a neutral stadium Because Wales have earned the right due to a better qualification campaign. 8 minutes ago, !james said: Not an extra game, Wales beat Austria in March. The Ukraine/Scotland game was due to be played then too but postponed due to the war. And thanks. Point still stands though about rewarding better campaigns with home advantage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted June 5, 2022 Report Share Posted June 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, SecretSam said: Why would it be hatred? I have Welsh and Irish blood (German, too ). No Scottish. I have German family and yet people think I’m weird for wanting Germany to win! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted June 5, 2022 Report Share Posted June 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said: Wales seem to be a very lucky team and I'm still yet to see any difference between Dan James and Ivan Sproule Fewer red cards... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted June 5, 2022 Report Share Posted June 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: Because Wales have earned the right due to a better qualification campaign. And thanks. Point still stands though about rewarding better campaigns with home advantage How can anyone judge that fairly when they didn't play the same teams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveller Posted June 5, 2022 Report Share Posted June 5, 2022 5 minutes ago, SecretSam said: Why would it be hatred? I have Welsh and Irish blood (German, too ). No Scottish. So why would you NEVER want Scotland to win? Against anyone? Logically suggests you dislike them more than Russia, Argentina, North Korea… ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted June 5, 2022 Report Share Posted June 5, 2022 Just now, cidercity1987 said: How can anyone judge that fairly when they didn't play the same teams Absolutely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted June 5, 2022 Report Share Posted June 5, 2022 Just now, cidercity1987 said: How can anyone judge that fairly when they didn't play the same teams All done by rankings and points won I guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRock Posted June 5, 2022 Report Share Posted June 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, bredwood said: Have to say I agree with this. However, this season there were quite a few penalties given for similar tackles in the EPL. Though that probably shows a difference in interpretation between refs in England and the rest of Europe where they probably take intent into account. Can understand that view if there were no advantage gained by the defending team. In this instance, I would say the Ukraine player was in a position to make positive play, he was upright, had his balance and able to take control of the ball. It was a direct advantage to Wales that he was fouled, all be it unintentionally. Anywhere else on the pitch, that would have been given as a foul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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