P'head Red Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpexile Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 14 minutes ago, P'head Red said: Hallelujah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, bpexile said: Hallelujah Wait until it actually happens before celebrating. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westonred Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 https://www.footballinsider247.com/sources-kasey-palmer-undergoes-coventry-city-medical-after-deal-agreed/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonRobin21 Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 A move works for all parties, but for me this will always be a 'what if' signing. His link up with Afobe and Weimann looked to suit his style. But there were too many gaps in other areas of his game. Showed moments of brilliance, such as the Northampton cup game, where he seemed to control the tempo of the match. Wish him well, and I think Coventry is a great move for him. Just one of those deals that didn't work out. The main thing for us, is that we are now turning a corner and no longer offering these ridiculous wages. Nige will build a squad based on equal pay. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 17 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Wait until it actually happens before celebrating. If he fails his medical I'll doubt it'll be a pulled muscle unlee it's groin strain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 Nothing on the official site. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westonred Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 Technically a gifted player that pass he put over for Brownhill to get a last minute winner (forgot who against) was pure magic and like someone mentioned his understanding with Afobe was class. However he doesnt seem to like to tackle or head the ball and will never chase back when to win the ball back when he's lost it.. Overall a very lazy player, a world beater for the 1st couple of games when hes got something to prove then he slips into his comfort zone and appears to not want to be out there .. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 7 minutes ago, AshtonRobin21 said: A move works for all parties, but for me this will always be a 'what if' signing. His link up with Afobe and Weimann looked to suit his style. But there were too many gaps in other areas of his game. Showed moments of brilliance, such as the Northampton cup game, where he seemed to control the tempo of the match. Wish him well, and I think Coventry is a great move for him. Just one of those deals that didn't work out. The main thing for us, is that we are now turning a corner and no longer offering these ridiculous wages. Nige will build a squad based on equal pay. My sentiments too. Good luck to him. If he’s waived the right to his contract here to enable a free transfer, then well done City and KP, it needed compromise from at least 2 parties. Cov may have conpromised too. At least he’s trying to move his career forward. Assuming the above is true, then that is £1m in this season cost forecast that can be removed. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDarwall Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 A really strange one is KP. Clearly talented would often put a shift in (in fact some of his slide tackles terrified me) & decent goals/assists ratio for minutes on the pitch. However the no. Of managers that he has underwhelmed grows ever larger & he has to take responsibility for that. Grateful for some of the glorious through balls (esp. to Brownhill home to Charlton) & wish him the best for the future, but I hope for his careers sake he knuckles down & listens to whatever advice Robins gives him. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 Being announced today by all accounts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 Pete O’Rourke now reporting he’s undergone his medical & is signing a 3 year deal with them. Looks like it is finally done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 34 minutes ago, Davefevs said: Assuming the above is true, then that is £1m in this season cost forecast that can be removed. Indeed. Let's say £1.5m in wages saved if we take O'Dowda into account. So if the number of players leaving roughly equals the number joining I guess the effect on the wage bill would be cost neutral at worst. Possibly we might be spending less. Just because we are told we have the same wage budget as last season it doesn't necessarily follow that we will spend to that limit. I certainly don't see Nigel thinking "I have £x to spend so I have to use it all". Better squad+lower wage bill=result! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh1t_ref_again Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 17 minutes ago, TDarwall said: A really strange one is KP. Clearly talented would often put a shift in (in fact some of his slide tackles terrified me) & decent goals/assists ratio for minutes on the pitch. However the no. Of managers that he has underwhelmed grows ever larger & he has to take responsibility for that. Grateful for some of the glorious through balls (esp. to Brownhill home to Charlton) & wish him the best for the future, but I hope for his careers sake he knuckles down & listens to whatever advice Robins gives him. Agree with this, very talented player and despite some views think he did try hard when on the pitch, but perhaps there has been a lot of behind the scenes issues maybe with attitude that upset managers and they fall out. If he gets in a club that panders to his needs, or he realises the error of his ways, then sure they will have a great player 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, sh1t_ref_again said: Agree with this, very talented player and despite some views think he did try hard when on the pitch, but perhaps there has been a lot of behind the scenes issues maybe with attitude that upset managers and they fall out. If he gets in a club that panders to his needs, or he realises the error of his ways, then sure they will have a great player Or maybe the fact that he failed on loan at Derby, Blackburn & Swansea & did virtually nothing on loan with us to ever justify making it permanent (thanks Ashton & LJ) suggests the problem is actually with the player? How many times can people make excuses for someone whose only consistency is in failing to deliver? He had about 5 good games for us, cost £3.5m, another £1m a year (plus) in wages for 3 years, yet some are still posting we’ll regret this. What I regret is that we ever bought him. A complete & utter disaster of a signing. 11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Or maybe the fact that he failed on loan at Derby, Blackburn & Swansea & did virtually nothing on loan with us to ever justify making it permanent (thanks Ashton & LJ) suggests the problem is actually with the player? How many times can people make excuses for someone whose only consistency is in failing to deliver? He had about 5 good games for us, cost £3.5m, another £1m a year (plus) in wages for 3 years, yet some are still posting we’ll regret this. What I regret is that we ever bought him. A complete & utter disaster of a signing. There are, at least , two sides to every story. We may regret him going or we may be grateful he’s gone depending on how it turns out. We have Scott who is younger and as good if not better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bat Fastard Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 I wish you people would lay off all this negative stuff. Lets wait until the ink is dry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Or maybe the fact that he failed on loan at Derby, Blackburn & Swansea & did virtually nothing on loan with us to ever justify making it permanent (thanks Ashton & LJ) suggests the problem is actually with the player? How many times can people make excuses for someone whose only consistency is in failing to deliver? He had about 5 good games for us, cost £3.5m, another £1m a year (plus) in wages for 3 years, yet some are still posting we’ll regret this. What I regret is that we ever bought him. A complete & utter disaster of a signing. Also agree with your sentiments too (you big Pato lover )…but SL / MA / LJ agreed to sign the player, and at least 2 of those 3 agreed to the fee and the wages, so I think that aspect shouldn’t be held against Palmer per se. What we are seeing from Cov, is a sensible financial approach to signing him….a free transfer, and lower wages (more in line with his career record / ability. We overpaid, Chelsea pulled our pants down at £3.5m. But hardly surprising, I don’t think our CEO was that good at his job (Richard Latham has made that point in the past, regardless of MA’s “personality”). They sucker us in with Kalas, and stuffed us with KP financially. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidered abroad Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 Irrespective of the fee and wages we stupidly accepted to bring KP here, he has shown little in the way of working hard. A footballer with his ability and talent is useless if the effort and team play is missing. So why didn't the trio in charge realise that was the reason why Chelsea and all his loan clubs were not wanting him permanently? Almost as poor a signing as Nick Hunt, Brian Mitchell and that midfielder in the 90's who's name escapes me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic Robin Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 21 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: There are, at least , two sides to every story. We may regret him going or we may be grateful he’s gone depending on how it turns out. We have Scott who is younger and as good if not better. I'd disagree - this is a positive step for us regardless of how it turns out for him at Coventry 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpexile Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 1 hour ago, GrahamC said: Wait until it actually happens before celebrating. Apologies, my wife tells me that frequently 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 49 minutes ago, sh1t_ref_again said: Agree with this, very talented player and despite some views think he did try hard when on the pitch, but perhaps there has been a lot of behind the scenes issues maybe with attitude that upset managers and they fall out. If he gets in a club that panders to his needs, or he realises the error of his ways, then sure they will have a great player There doesn't seem to be any actual evidence he has a bad attitude. Certainly Nigel has never criticised him on those grounds. The thing is you can have lots of talent but not have a football brain, which always seemed to be the issue to me. Which doesn't mean he's the bad guy so I wish him well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 42 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Or maybe the fact that he failed on loan at Derby, Blackburn & Swansea & did virtually nothing on loan with us to ever justify making it permanent (thanks Ashton & LJ) suggests the problem is actually with the player? How many times can people make excuses for someone whose only consistency is in failing to deliver? He had about 5 good games for us, cost £3.5m, another £1m a year (plus) in wages for 3 years, yet some are still posting we’ll regret this. What I regret is that we ever bought him. A complete & utter disaster of a signing. I’m not so sure I buy into the narrative when people say that he did nothing to warrant a permanent deal whilst on loan with us. Scored on his debut, hugely involved in Fam’s winner at Forest, brilliant assist for Weimann’s second at Sheff Utd, scored what should’ve been a winner against Wigan, totally changed the game away at Millwall penultimate game of that season. Don’t get me wrong, not enough to warrant £3.5m, but that’s on Ashton. Definitely not needed after signing Szcmodics. That’s on LJ & Ashton. When you’ve got the manager publicly saying he wants you, the club gives you a 4 year deal, and within months you have the manager blaming you for awful team performances after playing about 9 minutes (Shrewsbury away), it makes a mockery of the whole thing. Don’t think it was the wrong signing at all, but definitely signed at the wrong time and for far too much cash. Again, that’s not on the player imo 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KegCity Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, chinapig said: There doesn't seem to be any actual evidence he has a bad attitude. Certainly Nigel has never criticised him on those grounds. The thing is you can have lots of talent but not have a football brain, which always seemed to be the issue to me. Which doesn't mean he's the bad guy so I wish him well. Players are system dependant, a lot of people on here don't seem to appreciate that. We've seen flashes of his talent when he's had Afobe/Wells in front of him and when he's been allowed to implement his game. Asking him to track back and do a lot of unnecessary running makes him less effective than allowing him to be an outlet up the pitch that can then release a striker. For me, it's a combination of bad luck and a lack of versatility that's held him back here. It's nothing to do with talent or attitude despite what a lot of people say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderInACan Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 (edited) 37 minutes ago, cidered abroad said: Almost as poor a signing as Nick Hunt, Brian Mitchell and that midfielder in the 90's who's name escapes me. That could be an awful lot of players but I guess you're thinking of Tony Dinning? World Beater to Panel Beater. Didn't last long. *edit* just checked and Dinning was 2004/05 so maybe not him, then! Edited June 21, 2022 by CyderInACan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 (edited) Unlike quite a few posters I think KP actually tried too hard to impress. He tried the ‘ Hollywood ‘ pass often too early and was so desperate to play his part defensively that he often fouled the opponent. I would have liked to see him given a run in the team and the confidence of his manager so that he could build up the rapport with his teammates and affect the game more. As I have mentioned previously, Scott has taken his place. Edited June 21, 2022 by Major Isewater 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greedo Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 Fabrizio says it’s done. Here we go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyderInACan Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: As I have mentioned previously, Scott has taken his place. A much better option if you ask me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinapig Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, KegCity said: Players are system dependant, a lot of people on here don't seem to appreciate that. We've seen flashes of his talent when he's had Afobe/Wells in front of him and when he's been allowed to implement his game. Asking him to track back and do a lot of unnecessary running makes him less effective than allowing him to be an outlet up the pitch that can then release a striker. For me, it's a combination of bad luck and a lack of versatility that's held him back here. It's nothing to do with talent or attitude despite what a lot of people say. And yet multiple managers haven't found a system that works for him, which seems significant. Maybe Robins will. I hope so for Kasey's sake. Of course you don't want any player doing unnecessary running but you do want them running intelligently and playing their part in both the attacking and the defensive structure. The latter is less about chasing back (though you still need to put in the work I don't see him as lazy) more about intelligent positioning, judging when to press and when not and so on. The days of indulging a player on the grounds of talent alone seem to be long gone. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NcnsBcfc Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 16 minutes ago, CyderInACan said: That could be an awful lot of players but I guess you're thinking of Tony Dinning? World Beater to Panel Beater. Didn't last long. *edit* just checked and Dinning was 2004/05 so maybe not him, then! Atteveld? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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