Davefevs Posted June 16, 2022 Report Share Posted June 16, 2022 1 hour ago, CyderInACan said: I used to love the smell of caps (not the headwear) Exactly this. It's selfish in the extreme. Ah yes, lovely wasn’t it 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHIPLEY RED Posted June 16, 2022 Report Share Posted June 16, 2022 2 hours ago, CyderInACan said: Piss poor security! Quite worrying really. The security at the Gate for the Killers was very tight. You wouldn't of got anything in there that night. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReds Posted June 16, 2022 Report Share Posted June 16, 2022 2 hours ago, Tinmans Love Child said: Yet at the Liam Gallagher gigs recently, one of which was inside the Etihad, there were countless smoke flares/pyros going off throughout and there was no issue at all with this. Why are pyros not allowed in a football ground when football is on but they are allowed in a football ground for a concert? Surely H&S is the same regardless of event? Why are people allowed to freely dance in the stands down Ashton Gate at a gig in the dark without the lights on, yet football fans are not even allowed to stand up when it is light, and it's not even allowed in the back row whilst not obscuring anyones view. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted June 16, 2022 Report Share Posted June 16, 2022 37 minutes ago, PHILINFRANCE said: If this article is about the same person, then it is probably for the best that he is allowed nowhere near Ashton Gate. https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/62045/Gang-gets-11-years-for-savage-attack-on-dad Give it another few years and they'll be inside for a long time, scum like that just don't change and live outside of normal society. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted June 16, 2022 Report Share Posted June 16, 2022 1 hour ago, slartibartfast said: Now yer talking..........used to love the smell of my Lone Star Range Rider rifle (one for us geriatrics, there) How about the elastic on your catapult? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted June 16, 2022 Report Share Posted June 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, Midred said: How about the elastic on your catapult? Takes me back Always had a catapult tucked into me snake belt as a kid, as well as a spud gun that would also take caps. No pyros though - a few bangers around fireworks night maybe if we could get someone to buy 'em.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Red Posted June 16, 2022 Report Share Posted June 16, 2022 3 hours ago, Super said: It affects some people's breathing and is dangerous that's why they are banned. Are they banned at other mass gatherings then i.e concerts held at football stadiums or festivals like Glastonbury? Just an innocent question as they seem to be rife at these sorts of events. Are festival/concert goers lungs more immune to them i wonder?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted June 16, 2022 Report Share Posted June 16, 2022 8 minutes ago, bris red said: Are they banned at other mass gatherings then i.e concerts held at football stadiums or festivals like Glastonbury? Just an innocent question as they seem to be rife at these sorts of events. Are festival/concert goers lungs more immune to them i wonder?! Do they intentionally chuck them so that they can land on someone - like the ********* at AG ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted June 16, 2022 Report Share Posted June 16, 2022 7 minutes ago, bris red said: Are they banned at other mass gatherings then i.e concerts held at football stadiums or festivals like Glastonbury? Just an innocent question as they seem to be rife at these sorts of events. Are festival/concert goers lungs more immune to them i wonder?! Fair point. Whether it's AG or Glasto it's still illegal to let them off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimme Shelton Posted June 16, 2022 Report Share Posted June 16, 2022 Well I love the smell of napalm in the morning but you try smuggling that in... health and safety gone mad! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinmans Love Child Posted June 16, 2022 Report Share Posted June 16, 2022 4 hours ago, Super said: It affects some people's breathing and is dangerous that's why they are banned. Ok, that’s fine, but if that’s the reason then why are they seemingly allowed at concerts but not football? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted June 16, 2022 Report Share Posted June 16, 2022 1 minute ago, Tinmans Love Child said: Ok, that’s fine, but if that’s the reason then why are they seemingly allowed at concerts but not football? Because its a different event, why are you allowed on the pitch at a concert? It's like comparing a apple to the moon......ie you can't 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinmans Love Child Posted June 16, 2022 Report Share Posted June 16, 2022 1 minute ago, Monkeh said: Because its a different event, why are you allowed on the pitch at a concert? It's like comparing a apple to the moon......ie you can't It’s not, the point I was replying to was that they pyros are so say banned at football because they impact peoples breathing, people also breath at concerts, therefore why are they not banned at concerts. Keep up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted June 16, 2022 Report Share Posted June 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, Tinmans Love Child said: It’s not, the point I was replying to was that they pyros are so say banned at football because they impact peoples breathing, people also breath at concerts, therefore why are they not banned at concerts. Keep up But it is the point though, you are applying the same rule to 2 different circumstances, Football fans especially recently have proven they can't be trusted, sadly these bans are the result of this 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinmans Love Child Posted June 16, 2022 Report Share Posted June 16, 2022 Some Googling suggests that pyro are legal to buy and own if over 18, however cannot be let off in public places unless you have some form of permission. I went to a wedding last week and they set loads of them off for the photo shoot, no police turned up to arrest anyone, so assume they asked the hotel and they were fine with it. I guess in theory if fans got the clubs permission to set off pyros, and the club gave permission, then it would be perfectly legal and above board. The club on certain games have those flame throwers going off which arnt much different to pyros. I wonder if at concerts they have caveats in the T&Cs that allow pyros? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinmans Love Child Posted June 16, 2022 Report Share Posted June 16, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Monkeh said: But it is the point though, you are applying the same rule to 2 different circumstances, Football fans especially recently have proven they can't be trusted, sadly these bans are the result of this I’m not, this isn’t complicated! If the banning reason is breathing then pyro should be banned from all events. If the banning reason is football fans being tossers literally then that means breathing isn’t the reason Edited June 16, 2022 by Tinmans Love Child 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted June 16, 2022 Report Share Posted June 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Super said: Fair point. Whether it's AG or Glasto it's still illegal to let them off. I can tell you this, nobody bats an eyelid at Glastonbury! It’s weird that football and fans always have been seen different to the rest. I can only think the reason for it is because of past violence decades ago… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomad Posted June 16, 2022 Report Share Posted June 16, 2022 21 minutes ago, Monkeh said: Because its a different event, why are you allowed on the pitch at a concert? It's like comparing a apple to the moon......ie you can't Rubbish, it's still a people based event. If it is disallowed because of danger and breathing difficulties at football it is no different to a festival/concert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted June 16, 2022 Report Share Posted June 16, 2022 9 minutes ago, Lew-T said: I can tell you this, nobody bats an eyelid at Glastonbury! It’s weird that football and fans always have been seen different to the rest. I can only think the reason for it is because of past violence decades ago… Or recent violence like attacking players Sadly the minority of morons have set back the changing stigma in football to the 80's simply because they have been idiotic and selfish pricks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevedon Red Posted June 16, 2022 Report Share Posted June 16, 2022 6 hours ago, Bristol Rob said: I read his surname as profiterole. No idea why. It clearly isn't. I read it as utter ****. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy1968 Posted June 16, 2022 Report Share Posted June 16, 2022 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Tinmans Love Child said: Some Googling suggests that pyro are legal to buy and own if over 18, however cannot be let off in public places unless you have some form of permission. I went to a wedding last week and they set loads of them off for the photo shoot, no police turned up to arrest anyone, so assume they asked the hotel and they were fine with it. I guess in theory if fans got the clubs permission to set off pyros, and the club gave permission, then it would be perfectly legal and above board. The club on certain games have those flame throwers going off which arnt much different to pyros. I wonder if at concerts they have caveats in the T&Cs that allow pyros? The club can't give permission for something that is illegal. This is covered under the "Sporting Events (Control of Alcohol etc.) Act 1985" and possibly under "Football (Offences) Act 1991". Ed: Possibly the main point to all this is that the relevant legislation concerns sporting events and football, not pop concerts or other events. Edited June 16, 2022 by Sleepy1968 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted June 16, 2022 Report Share Posted June 16, 2022 27 minutes ago, Tinmans Love Child said: Some Googling suggests that pyro are legal to buy and own if over 18, however cannot be let off in public places unless you have some form of permission. I went to a wedding last week and they set loads of them off for the photo shoot, no police turned up to arrest anyone, so assume they asked the hotel and they were fine with it. I guess in theory if fans got the clubs permission to set off pyros, and the club gave permission, then it would be perfectly legal and above board. The club on certain games have those flame throwers going off which arnt much different to pyros. I wonder if at concerts they have caveats in the T&Cs that allow pyros? How can they when it's ILLEGAL? Why are people not getting this?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richwwtk Posted June 16, 2022 Report Share Posted June 16, 2022 18 minutes ago, Nomad said: Rubbish, it's still a people based event. If it is disallowed because of danger and breathing difficulties at football it is no different to a festival/concert. Very different to a festival. At a festival you can easily move out of the way. At football you're stuck where you are 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted June 16, 2022 Report Share Posted June 16, 2022 9 minutes ago, Super said: How can they when it's ILLEGAL? Why are people not getting this?! This thread pops up every year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted June 16, 2022 Report Share Posted June 16, 2022 As our old friend Mr. Ashton might well have said: Let me very clear about this; I do not support flares/pyros in UK football stadiums. But! I have never been, but what an experience it must be to attend a local Istanbul, Belgrade or even a Greek Derby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted June 16, 2022 Report Share Posted June 16, 2022 (edited) Just to stop the repeated same questions And FWIW , If used responsibly (therein lies the problem) I like pyros and the atmosphere they bring There are at least two pieces of legislation that make possession at a SPORTING VENUE illegal (1) Being in possession of a pyrotechnic device at a football match, or attempting to bring a pyrotechnic device into a football stadium, is a criminal offence under the Sporting Events (Control of Alcohol etc) Act 1985. (2) Sec 72a Public Order Act 1986 Edited June 16, 2022 by Sheltons Army Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOTBLUE Posted June 16, 2022 Report Share Posted June 16, 2022 5 hours ago, slartibartfast said: Now yer talking..........used to love the smell of my Lone Star Range Rider rifle (one for us geriatrics, there) We were proper old school,two bolts,one nut and a couple of caps in the middle,throw on to floor and bang. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted June 16, 2022 Report Share Posted June 16, 2022 1 hour ago, NOTBLUE said: We were proper old school,two bolts,one nut and a couple of caps in the middle,throw on to floor and bang. Blakey's were good for setting off caps too. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilC Posted June 16, 2022 Report Share Posted June 16, 2022 8 hours ago, bris red said: The point being i highly doubt that there is an ongoing manhunt by the plod to catch the individuals that let them off at concerts.. I may be wrong on that and if anyone has any examples of people being prosecuted for letting off pyro’s at concerts then i stand to be corrected but i get a feeling that once again its football fans being demonised by the authorities. Glastonbury next week will be another mass event where you will see countless pyros being used. My own personal view is Pyro’s always add an extra bit to the atmosphere - you only have to look at every country in continental Europe to see that. As previously said though this is just yet another stick to beat us football fans with IMO and has very little to do with H&S. Flares are banned at Glastonbury, although I'm unsure if that includes smoke devices, but your point still stands as to whether any revellers caught using them would be charged. There are plenty of other things banned at Glastonbury too.... apparently! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted June 16, 2022 Report Share Posted June 16, 2022 3 hours ago, NOTBLUE said: We were proper old school,two bolts,one nut and a couple of caps in the middle,throw on to floor and bang. Oh, you poor deprived child.............WE used to have blue and red plastic rockets with a plunger in the nose,insert a cap, chuck it in the air.....BLAM ! Some had small metal rockets , cut in half, held together with elastic bands (same principle as your nuts and bolts), tell the kids of today, they won't believe you ! Marvelous times, I can assure you . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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