TRL Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 For me he looked head and shoulders above Atkinson in terms of actual defending and defensive positioning. I am not entirely sure wd have done the right thing here, I think we paid a load for Atkinson when we had potentially a better player already at the club. Atkinson for me is full of howlers and turns like a oil tanker. If I were starting one of the 2 it would be cundy from what I have seen. That said Atkinson is young and has scope to improve. I feel it could be the case of the one that got away. Anyway, good luck to him wherever he ends up, our defensive improvement certainly coincided with Cundy appearing in the team. 1 2 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 21, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 Sensible move assuming it goes through. Would not surprise me if Barnsley offered more higher wages (and longer term) than we did. Good luck to him. I got to see him in a City shirt, which I wondered whether I ever would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 Not too bothered, didn't let us down when called upon, but needs to be in the first team which I don't think he'll get here 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 Think he did a solid job but perhaps not first choice, long term...time will tell, more regular football probably will suit him too- would have been pro keeping him but we are a bit overloaded with CBs and it is possible we switch to a back 4 which would mean one more CB for one less place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 This is one of those that's probably got a 1% chance of biting us in the backside. If Barnsley can offer him a better contact than us then they must feel they can get more out of him than we can after we've had a close look at him for a few years. Good luck to him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 22 minutes ago, richwwtk said: Nothing against Cundy at all and would have been happy to see him sign, but I think Idehen looks a better prospect from the little game time he has had as well. And there is also our favourite doors/wheels prospect to consider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorenzos Only Goal Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 22 minutes ago, richwwtk said: Nothing against Cundy at all and would have been happy to see him sign, but I think Idehen looks a better prospect from the little game time he has had as well. I think Idehen makes for the better understudy, better age and potential, for Cundy that's where he would of ended up here as understudy with the new signings and at 25 he's really going to want to be the one trying to hold down a first team place. Might bite us later in the season as Idehen is a little green though at present. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 Was solid when he finally got his chance, but clearly (and rightly) felt he wanted games. Good luck to the lad, he'll do well. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 (edited) 49 minutes ago, TRL said: For me he looked head and shoulders above Atkinson in terms of actual defending and defensive positioning. I am not entirely sure wd have done the right thing here, He was out of contract. We offered him a new one. What more could we have done? Edited June 21, 2022 by Merrick's Marvels 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tin Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 I’ve got a feeling this one will bite us on the arse. He developed nicely in the second half of last season and it’s no coincidence we looked a lot more solid with him alongside Klose and Atkinson. Good luck to him but I’d rather it was Vyner or Moore who went to Barnsley than Cundy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 19 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said: He was out of contract. We offered him a new one. What more could we have done? I am not disputing that, it was more the fact that I believe (and judging by some responses I am in a minority ) if given a chance earlier, rather than bringing in others over and above him, it could have transpired we had gem instead of buying other teams gems who have not been tested at this level. The contract signing may then have been a moot point. Anyway good luck to him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 1 hour ago, TRL said: For me he looked head and shoulders above Atkinson in terms of actual defending and defensive positioning. I am not entirely sure wd have done the right thing here, I think we paid a load for Atkinson when we had potentially a better player already at the club. Atkinson for me is full of howlers and turns like a oil tanker. If I were starting one of the 2 it would be cundy from what I have seen. That said Atkinson is young and has scope to improve. I feel it could be the case of the one that got away. Anyway, good luck to him wherever he ends up, our defensive improvement certainly coincided with Cundy appearing in the team. Sorry but I think this might be a genuine moment of mistaken identity, because the player you have just described is nothing like the Atkinson most of us have been watching certainly in the last third of the season. 8 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 16 minutes ago, TRL said: I am not disputing that, it was more the fact that I believe (and judging by some responses I am in a minority ) if given a chance earlier, rather than bringing in others over and above him, it could have transpired we had gem He was injured Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 55 minutes ago, tin said: I’ve got a feeling this one will bite us on the arse. He developed nicely in the second half of last season and it’s no coincidence we looked a lot more solid with him alongside Klose and Atkinson. Good luck to him but I’d rather it was Vyner or Moore who went to Barnsley than Cundy. Barnsley aren't that daft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hinsleburg Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 56 minutes ago, tin said: I’ve got a feeling this one will bite us on the arse. He developed nicely in the second half of last season and it’s no coincidence we looked a lot more solid with him alongside Klose and Atkinson. Good luck to him but I’d rather it was Vyner or Moore who went to Barnsley than Cundy. I don't think it's coincidence we looked more solid at the end of the season but also don't think it was because of Cundy over Kalas Just think it was a combination of having 'the spine' of the team fully fit and playing consistently together, as NP alluded to in his interview earlier it also felt like we maybe 'found the formula'. I think you take out Cundy and add in Kalas at the end of last season I think we would have been even more solid and a better side Certainly nothing against Cundy, did a decent job and can see why we offered a deal, can also see why he's chosen to gone elsewhere. Wish him well and certainly has potential to bite us as whilst he isn't 'young' he's still relatively new to senior first team football so has scope to improve. Feel that right now League 1 is his level though 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 21, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 47 minutes ago, hinsleburg said: I don't think it's coincidence we looked more solid at the end of the season but also don't think it was because of Cundy over Kalas Just think it was a combination of having 'the spine' of the team fully fit and playing consistently together, as NP alluded to in his interview earlier it also felt like we maybe 'found the formula'. I think you take out Cundy and add in Kalas at the end of last season I think we would have been even more solid and a better side Certainly nothing against Cundy, did a decent job and can see why we offered a deal, can also see why he's chosen to gone elsewhere. Wish him well and certainly has potential to bite us as whilst he isn't 'young' he's still relatively new to senior first team football so has scope to improve. Feel that right now League 1 is his level though Agree, correlation not causation! Good summary 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NcnsBcfc Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 2 hours ago, TRL said: For me he looked head and shoulders above Atkinson in terms of actual defending and defensive positioning. I am not entirely sure wd have done the right thing here, I think we paid a load for Atkinson when we had potentially a better player already at the club. Atkinson for me is full of howlers and turns like a oil tanker. If I were starting one of the 2 it would be cundy from what I have seen. That said Atkinson is young and has scope to improve. I feel it could be the case of the one that got away. Anyway, good luck to him wherever he ends up, our defensive improvement certainly coincided with Cundy appearing in the team. All about opinions of course, but in the last 2 month of the season, Atkinson for me came on leaps and bounds. He looked fitter, and stronger; and more adjusted to the demands of the Championship. I think it helped him having a vocal experienced CB in Klose playing alongside him. Cundy always gave 100%, but he was at times caught out positionally, and for pace. He looked leggy, and although in true HNM fashion he had "Potential", I don't see him progressing much with us in the medium to long term (hence the speculated 1 year contract offer). Good luck to him at Barnsley. If he's got a 3 year deal out of them, then fair play. I think L1 will probably suit him at this stage of his career. Better to be negotiating coming off 14 games in the Championship (A lot of them starting), then being let go from a Championship club with only a couple of appearances. The summer of 2023 will be a big period of change in the club with so many players being OOC. NP, and others obviously saw him as more of a stop gap defender until that time (hence the deal offered). Barnsley will of course be one of the contenders in L1 this season, so maybe he will get the opportunities to develop his game further with them. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, NcnsBcfc said: All about opinions of course, but in the last 2 month of the season, Atkinson for me came on leaps and bounds. He looked fitter, and stronger; and more adjusted to the demands of the Championship. I think it helped him having a vocal experienced CB in Klose playing alongside him. Cundy always gave 100%, but he was at times caught out positionally, and for pace. He looked leggy, and although in true HNM fashion he had "Potential", I don't see him progressing much with us in the medium to long term (hence the speculated 1 year contract offer). Good luck to him at Barnsley. If he's got a 3 year deal out of them, then fair play. I think L1 will probably suit him at this stage of his career. Better to be negotiating coming off 14 games in the Championship (A lot of them starting), then being let go from a Championship club with only a couple of appearances. The summer of 2023 will be a big period of change in the club with so many players being OOC. NP, and others obviously saw him as more of a stop gap defender until that time (hence the deal offered). Barnsley will of course be one of the contenders in L1 this season, so maybe he will get the opportunities to develop his game further with them. Didn`t Rob Atkinson have Covid mid-season too? Anyway, good luck to Robbie. He got his chance and, unlike some, grabbed it and hopefully will have a decent career as a result. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 21, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 49 minutes ago, Lanterne Rouge said: Didn`t Rob Atkinson have Covid mid-season too? Anyway, good luck to Robbie. He got his chance and, unlike some, grabbed it and hopefully will have a decent career as a result. Yes, thought he started the season well, then had his dip through illness and injury (back / calf) which seemed to affect his confidence, but came back strong as @NcnsBcfc says. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnr1986 Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 Not fussed with this clearly behind Kalas,Klose,Naismith and Atkinson aswell as baker if he gets himself fit. Plus at 25 not exactly that young anymore. More potential in towler and Inda too. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 He did well for us last season. I would have been happy to keep him, but fair play to him to move on to get more game time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 I liked him. We were infinitely better at crosses with him Atkinson and Klose playing. But the boy has a three year deal and less competition to start. Pearson said his fitness was an issue, which it was. I suspect it won’t be the last we here of him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 Can only echo what's been said, have to give him credit for wanting to go and play regularly and being willing to drop down a level to do so, and whilst the club obviously wanted to keep him, I think they will fully understand and respect his decision. He's got himself the security of a 3 year deal and a real chance to kick on and establish himself at a good club at that level, with the aim of getting back up the pyramid one way or another. Good luck to him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sglosbcfc Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 4 hours ago, Port Said Red said: Sorry but I think this might be a genuine moment of mistaken identity, because the player you have just described is nothing like the Atkinson most of us have been watching certainly in the last third of the season. He was on about Ron Atkinson! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cov 77 Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 12 minutes ago, Northern Red said: Can only echo what's been said, have to give him credit for wanting to go and play regularly and being willing to drop down a level to do so, and whilst the club obviously wanted to keep him, I think they will fully understand and respect his decision. He's got himself the security of a 3 year deal and a real chance to kick on and establish himself at a good club at that level, with the aim of getting back up the pyramid one way or another. Good luck to him. Has he actually signed for them yet ? Nothing in their website or twitter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 Bit of a relief really, imo. The times I've seen him play, he always looks like the weak link in our team and distracts others players into having to try & cover him. I was sure he'd sign another contract and fail to get enough game time to improve - so I think this is best all round. More game time for him, at what's probably his level & we have other options now that are better than him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ska Junkie Posted June 21, 2022 Report Share Posted June 21, 2022 Good luck to the lad, the security of a longer deal, at a lower level, more game time at a decent club. I wish him well. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted June 22, 2022 Report Share Posted June 22, 2022 It should also be noted that he came into the league late, so he needs to be looking to make as much money as he can at this point in his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted June 22, 2022 Report Share Posted June 22, 2022 55 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: It should also be noted that he came into the league late, so he needs to be looking to make as much money as he can at this point in his career. Well, he's been "around" KP (and a few others) for a bit now, so I would imagine he has some idea how to go about achieving this ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted June 22, 2022 Report Share Posted June 22, 2022 18 hours ago, Merrick's Marvels said: He was out of contract. We offered him a new one. What more could we have done? Offered him more money and/or a longer contract. Not saying for a moment that either would have been the right thing to do.....just that there were things we could have done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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