Super Posted April 2, 2022 Report Share Posted April 2, 2022 Think he's done OK. Prob worth keeping considering the mess we are in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted April 2, 2022 Report Share Posted April 2, 2022 I think Cundy is a good low cost option, so he should stay. If Pearson plays a back four he’ll need a minimum of 4 central defenders to allow for injury, loss of form and suspension. That could be Kallas, Atkinson, Klose and Cundy. I’ve not included Pring as he needs to cover left back / wing back. Should Pearson sign a new central defender in the summer he’ll still need Cundy in case he plays a back 3. To play this formation you need 5 defenders, again to allow for injury, loss of form, suspension. Although City has conceded a lot of goals this season the fault is not just due to the defence. The midfield has been weak and overrun in most matches meaning there is no respite from the opposition’s’ attacks. Most Championship defences would struggle playing behind City’s midfield 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted April 2, 2022 Report Share Posted April 2, 2022 1 hour ago, RedRoss said: Huh? take a look at the typo he/she is responding to... Then it makes sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted April 2, 2022 Report Share Posted April 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Davefevs said: I think Kalas will be off. On finances, just into his last year I believe and being on £27k PW, possibly. Would he get that much anywhere else is the question . If we get offered a good amount to sell, hard to turn down. If he was willing to sign a new 3 year deal at reduced rates , then that changes. All that could impact on the original question. Personally, I've been impressed. I'd say Kalas, Klose, Cundy & Atkinson is a decent start to building a team. A back 4, if we go that way, of Kalas (RB) Klose Atkinson/Cundy Pring is a big strong robust back 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brann-red Posted April 2, 2022 Report Share Posted April 2, 2022 Cundy showed today also he could tackle, not just be good aerially and did a few really good interceptions - I was impressed with his mobility - plus a tackle in the box that was just so clean . also - and this probably seals why he should get a contract - he has his own chant now which I heard for the first time today. Given how many players have been here years and don’t still … then surely that’s a sign ?! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocking Red Cyril Posted April 2, 2022 Report Share Posted April 2, 2022 5 hours ago, Davefevs said: For a guy playing his formative games for City and at this level, he’s done pretty decently. Big question for me is can we see him in the remaining 6 games playing in a back 4. If that’s what we are going to use next season, let’s give him a chance to show what he can do there. If that means Kalas playing RB, or Klose missing out, so be it. A lot will depend on recruitment plans, but as it stands we need to go with what we have. Wise words as always Dave. I have a bag of cockles please COYR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocking Red Cyril Posted April 2, 2022 Report Share Posted April 2, 2022 3 hours ago, Davefevs said: I think Kalas will be off. Yes I get that feeling too. Wonder if a deal away already sorted. Hope we get done decent dollars for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobintheRed Red Posted April 2, 2022 Report Share Posted April 2, 2022 6 hours ago, Davefevs said: For a guy playing his formative games for City and at this level, he’s done pretty decently. Big question for me is can we see him in the remaining 6 games playing in a back 4. If that’s what we are going to use next season, let’s give him a chance to show what he can do there. If that means Kalas playing RB, or Klose missing out, so be it. A lot will depend on recruitment plans, but as it stands we need to go with what we have. Kids doing well with the shit in the squad hes one of our main hopes hope pearson sees this . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numero Uno Posted April 3, 2022 Report Share Posted April 3, 2022 12 hours ago, Tafkarmlf said: I don't think Cundy has done owt wrong tbh, decent player in there, be daft not to re contact tbh. No brainier. Low cost, low risk option that you could move on to League 1 in a single telephone call if he wasn’t working out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted April 3, 2022 Report Share Posted April 3, 2022 IMO, yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tin Posted April 3, 2022 Report Share Posted April 3, 2022 On what I’ve seen so far, Cundy’s worth a new two-year deal with the option of a third. He’s got the attributes, desire and crucially the right attitude to succeed at this level, and should develop further with more experience. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted April 3, 2022 Report Share Posted April 3, 2022 (edited) 19 hours ago, chinapig said: Nigel has said more than once that he is a good defender. I'm not sure though if there is a but ... being implied. I don't think he has made up his mind yet. I wonder if the “but” is simply the fact we already have Kalas, Vyner, Moore, Atkinson and Baker under contract plus Pring who can play centre back and Towler who could be called on in an emergency. We may not think Vyner and Moore are good enough and there may be rumours that Baker is about to call time on his career but the fact remains as it stand that they are all on the books. It may be that Pearson needs confidence on at least one or two players moving on before we can offer anything to Cundy or Klose for next season. Edited April 3, 2022 by LondonBristolian 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted April 3, 2022 Report Share Posted April 3, 2022 His run in the side, i think hes been one of our better players. Been given a chance, and taken it. A yes for me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted April 3, 2022 Report Share Posted April 3, 2022 38 minutes ago, LondonBristolian said: I wonder if the “but” is simply the fact we already have Kalas, Vyner, Moore, Atkinson and Baker under contract plus Pring who can play centre back and Towler who could be called on in an emergency. We may not think Vyner and Moore are good enough and there may be rumours that Baker is about to call time on his career but the fact remains as it stand that they are all on the books. It may be that Pearson needs confidence on at least one or two players moving on before we can offer anything to Cundy or Klose for next season. Agree, all I’d add is despite nothing being made public for obvious reasons, I expect the club has a pretty good idea by now what the score is with Baker & Klose was effectively brought in as his replacement, whether that was for the short term or permanently will become clear in the summer. We do have a lot of central defenders on our books & sorting out the futures of all of them bar Atkinson will certainly be a big part of the summer’s business. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted April 3, 2022 Report Share Posted April 3, 2022 5 hours ago, GrahamC said: Agree, all I’d add is despite nothing being made public for obvious reasons, I expect the club has a pretty good idea by now what the score is with Baker & Klose was effectively brought in as his replacement, whether that was for the short term or permanently will become clear in the summer. We do have a lot of central defenders on our books & sorting out the futures of all of them bar Atkinson will certainly be a big part of the summer’s business. What would be Cundy's wage expectations? Absolute no brainer. 3/4 year deal. He will get a number of offers from league 1 We may struggle to keep him if he doesn't think he'll play... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted April 3, 2022 Report Share Posted April 3, 2022 17 minutes ago, The Bard said: What would be Cundy's wage expectations? Absolute no brainer. 3/4 year deal. He will get a number of offers from league 1 We may struggle to keep him if he doesn't think he'll play... The one note of caution I'd sound is that we're in the situation where we're overstocked with defenders who aren't good enough because 18 months ago Vyner and Moore started the season brilliantly, we were top of the table and six games in it seemed an "absolute no brainer" to offer them both 3/4 year deals, a decision which - whilst few would admit it now - was supported by an overwhelming majority of our supporters at the time. Cundy has looked good but he's not the first central defender to come into the team and look good in recent seasons. Continued good form is far from guaranteed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted April 3, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2022 Sensible post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted April 3, 2022 Report Share Posted April 3, 2022 1 hour ago, The Bard said: What would be Cundy's wage expectations? Absolute no brainer. 3/4 year deal. He will get a number of offers from league 1 We may struggle to keep him if he doesn't think he'll play... I’d certainly not offer him any more than 2 years, he has started 4 Championship games in his career & has had a few injuries. Guess £5k a week? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted April 3, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2022 1 minute ago, GrahamC said: I’d certainly not offer him any more than 2 years, he has started 4 Championship games in his career & has had a few injuries. Guess £5k a week? My guess - a 1 yr + 1 yr option at around £3k p.w. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted April 4, 2022 Report Share Posted April 4, 2022 10 hours ago, Davefevs said: My guess - a 1 yr + 1 yr option at around £3k p.w. How is that going to compare to a reasonably competitive league 1 side who will probably say to him you'll be our starting CB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted April 4, 2022 Report Share Posted April 4, 2022 11 hours ago, LondonBristolian said: The one note of caution I'd sound is that we're in the situation where we're overstocked with defenders who aren't good enough because 18 months ago Vyner and Moore started the season brilliantly, we were top of the table and six games in it seemed an "absolute no brainer" to offer them both 3/4 year deals, a decision which - whilst few would admit it now - was supported by an overwhelming majority of our supporters at the time. Cundy has looked good but he's not the first central defender to come into the team and look good in recent seasons. Continued good form is far from guaranteed. Good post but I would say that Cundy has come into a side struggling defensively so, unlike the situation your describe, he is actually being stressed tested now. Dealing with Solanke etc is going to give him more confidence long term and a clear indication of what is needed to be a good CB at this level. That in itself makes it an absolute no brainer to get him a deal. Retaining players like him as nominally our 4th choice CB is very good business. We need to look at our 1st choice one IMO. Great defender but offers nothing in the way of leadership or control in games. We need to fix that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattredrobin Posted April 4, 2022 Report Share Posted April 4, 2022 I've been told Cundy has been told he can leave the club in the summer, just by someone I was chatting too on social media so how reliable they are not to sure, this was before he'd started games so be strange if that was the case as I feel he has done great since he's been in the side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted April 4, 2022 Report Share Posted April 4, 2022 11 hours ago, billywedlock said: Cundy looks ok . But is he top 10 ok ? I have no idea . We seem to jump on players as “ looking good “ then kill the managers when they are found wanting over an extended period . Is Cundy a play off level CB ? I don’t think any of the fans really know yet . Possibly - in a play off level team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted April 4, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2022 1 hour ago, The Bard said: How is that going to compare to a reasonably competitive league 1 side who will probably say to him you'll be our starting CB? Depends who he went to. My guess is that for several sides £3k would be a good wage. But if it was Ipswich or the like, it would be low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted April 4, 2022 Report Share Posted April 4, 2022 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Mattredrobin said: I've been told Cundy has been told he can leave the club in the summer, just by someone I was chatting too on social media so how reliable they are not to sure, this was before he'd started games so be strange if that was the case as I feel he has done great since he's been in the side. The modern day equivalent of a ‘ bloke down the pub’ Edited April 4, 2022 by Major Isewater Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riaz Posted April 4, 2022 Report Share Posted April 4, 2022 I'd give him another 2 years and see how he gets on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuffle Posted April 4, 2022 Report Share Posted April 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Mattredrobin said: I've been told Cundy has been told he can leave the club in the summer, just by someone I was chatting too on social media so how reliable they are not to sure, this was before he'd started games so be strange if that was the case as I feel he has done great since he's been in the side. In fairness to poster, I understand that he was told he could leave in January but the situation has changed massively since he’s got into the side. Would we really be playing him if he had no future as what would point be. Cundy has done a Dasilva in terms of changing perception. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted April 4, 2022 Report Share Posted April 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Mattredrobin said: I've been told Cundy has been told he can leave the club in the summer, just by someone I was chatting too on social media so how reliable they are not to sure, this was before he'd started games so be strange if that was the case as I feel he has done great since he's been in the side. Amazing. I've been told that he's been offered a contract. That's by someone who is normally reliable. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattredrobin Posted April 4, 2022 Report Share Posted April 4, 2022 36 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: The modern day equivalent of a ‘ bloke down the pub’ Of course I get that hence why when I was told I could've posted on here but I did not because I was not sure how reliable that guy was ( it was'nt in january I was told either was quiet recent ) i hope he is wrong and cundy does get an extended stay. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattredrobin Posted April 4, 2022 Report Share Posted April 4, 2022 23 minutes ago, The Bard said: Amazing. I've been told that he's been offered a contract. That's by someone who is normally reliable. haha god knows then just wait and see could be a case of he was told he was'nt being offered one, but has proven Pearson wrong and now will be 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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