Rocking Red Cyril Posted June 24, 2022 Report Share Posted June 24, 2022 On 23/06/2022 at 17:26, Bazooka Joe said: People might not agree with Le Tissier's opinions, but he is entitled to express what he believes. Free speech is a right which has cost him dearly. However, he has not broken any law. Carragher, on the other hand, has got off very lightly. Not surprised Le Tissier raises the question of fairness, When in life has any thing been fair ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebristolred Posted June 24, 2022 Report Share Posted June 24, 2022 13 hours ago, LoyalRed said: Let's not turn this into a covid discussion, Le Tissier was sacked at the time before a lot of his covid tweets had come out. See @Simon79 post above which clarifies this. Le Tiss didn't want to wear the BLM badge but was forced into wearing it and then decided not to wear it again. Not going to get dragged into the BLM discussion but fair enough on the Covid point, I had thought it was after, not before, so fair point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baba Yaga Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 16 hours ago, IAmNick said: Well yeah are you really surprised people on (what's meant to be) a football forum are more likely to comment on a footballers comments, than a random Ukranian politician? Thanks for the thoughtful reply! Broadly I agree with you of course on civil disobedience, and testing and challenging our systems / power structures. However, lets not act like Le Tissier is the equivalent of Eratosthenes putting sticks in the ground in 200BC (or whenever it was, I forget) to work out the circumference of the Earth (and proving it was spherical in the process). There is a lot of very valid criticism of our government's handling of covid, but pretending dying people are actors and comparing masks to the holocaust isn't exactly pushing forward the public discourse and challenging the prevailing perspective in my opinion. She was the head of their human rights body so not really a random politician, she was the source for a lot of the claims about the thing that LeTissier got in trouble for and now she's been sacked and we are no longer hearing such extreme stories like the ones described in the articles below. None of this registered with those who were quick to judge him in the first place as minds were already made up and still are by the looks of it. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/apr/25/evidence-ukraine-women-raped-before-being-killed-say-doctors-russia-war https://bdnews24.com/people/2022/04/30/on-the-trail-of-russian-war-crimes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAmNick Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, Baba Yaga said: She was the head of their human rights body so not really a random politician, she was the source for a lot of the claims about the thing that LeTissier got in trouble for and now she's been sacked and we are no longer hearing such extreme stories like the ones described in the articles below. None of this registered with those who were quick to judge him in the first place as minds were already made up and still are by the looks of it. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/apr/25/evidence-ukraine-women-raped-before-being-killed-say-doctors-russia-war https://bdnews24.com/people/2022/04/30/on-the-trail-of-russian-war-crimes Am I missing something? Le Tissier tweeted implying the massacre didn't happen and was invented by the media - pro Russian propaganda. The lady you've linked was doing the opposite, and exaggerating the claims - so pro Ukrainian propaganda . How are they related? He tweeted the opposite of what she was saying. Unless you mean he was reacting to her false claims by spreading some other false claims?! I think you're giving him a bit too much benefit of the doubt here if so. The only thing I can take from this is being easily misled and prone to believing things without doing any research or seeing any evidence is a general trait of his rather than a one off! Edited June 25, 2022 by IAmNick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 On 24/06/2022 at 05:50, Mike Hunt-Hertz said: I see what you did there and I approve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 19 hours ago, Rocking Red Cyril said: When in life has any thing been fair ? On the day Rovers were relegated from League Two. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorenzos Only Goal Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 (edited) On 23/06/2022 at 14:48, PHILINFRANCE said: Frankly, I am not particularly keen on either of them, but he does have a point. 'You employ a man who spat at a girl from his car!': Matt Le Tissier reveals he questioned why Jamie Carragher can still work for Sky Sports when he was sacked to save their 'reputation' after his Covid rants. I don't like Roy Keane as a pundit, always felt wrong that he's seemed to profit from deliberately ending another players career. There are a few pundits that don't offer much and have questionable pasts. Edit: Baba Yaga is about tin hat on. Edited June 25, 2022 by Lorenzos Only Goal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fjmcity Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 On 23/06/2022 at 22:19, LoyalRed said: Gary Neville also voices his political opinion on Twitter as does the climate preaching Gary Lineker who travels all over the world. I am sure everyone can choose not to agree with a persons opinion but does that give their employers a reason to sack them @!james? I think the difference is these two, even if there is hypocrisy in their words are voicing facts and intelligent opinion. MLT is consistently spouting dangerous and niche conspiracy theories 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocking Red Cyril Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Bazooka Joe said: On the day Rovers were relegated from League Two. But is it fair they are allowed to exist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Lorenzos Only Goal said: I don't like Roy Keane as a pundit, always felt wrong that he's seemed to profit from deliberately ending another players career. There are a few pundits that don't offer much and have questionable pasts. Edit: Baba Yaga is about tin hat on. Tin Hat Nah , Babas traditional and choice of headwear is much more 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Lorenzos Only Goal said: I don't like Roy Keane as a pundit, always felt wrong that he's seemed to profit from deliberately ending another players career. There are a few pundits that don't offer much and have questionable pasts. Edit: Baba Yaga is about tin hat on. He didn’t profit from that,he profited from being a hell of a player that would drag a team over the line,let’s not let one point in his career cloud your judgement 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Davey Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 To be fair he was probably right about the Blm movement ,bunch of crooks by the sound of it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redland Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 After England’s 0-4 home defeat to Hungary he tweeted that fans calling for the resignation of Southgate were “idiots”. So we have a pundit who spits at children and calls the fans who indirectly pay his wages idiots. Makes you wonder exactly what he would have to do to get the sack. I’m retired but I know that if I had called my customers idiots and spat at children I wouldn’t have lasted very long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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