bcfc01 Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 19 minutes ago, cityloyal473 said: He’s the captain of the ship and if losses have occurred on his watch then he should take the wrap for it. Much of this mess is Ashton’s making and SL recruited and employed him. That’s on him. I’ve not watched the interview but if he’s genuinely said he’s ‘blasé’ about the season then it’s time he sold up and went. We don’t need an owner who is blasé about his most high profile sporting asset. And it’s actually quite demeaning to the thousands who’ve shelled out again in a huge cost of living crisis. I’m actually high blasé to his leadership and tenure at city. He’s managed to polish a turd (the ground (maybe the HPC) and hats off to him for that) but there little else to show for it. And as for concerts and all the other nonsense- if that now floats his boat then it speaks to diminished interest in city more generally. Then why comment on the interview ? The "blase" comment needs to be taken into context with the question and, after 26 years or so of pre-season interviews, I'd be a bit more blase about it. Its not like its his first pre-season is it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityloyal473 Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 7 minutes ago, bcfc01 said: Then why comment on the interview ? The "blase" comment needs to be taken into context with the question and, after 26 years or so of pre-season interviews, I'd be a bit more blase about it. Its not like its his first pre-season is it. I don’t want an owner who is blasé about anything to do with the club. My 35th year of following city and pouring my heard earned in. I’m not blasé about the new season. If SL is it’s time for him to piss off. 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcdc Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 7 hours ago, Tinmans Love Child said: Jayjay are you Peter Hargreaves’s? Is he Peter Hargreaves’ what, exactly? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityloyal473 Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 40 minutes ago, bcfc01 said: Then why comment on the interview ? The "blase" comment needs to be taken into context with the question and, after 26 years or so of pre-season interviews, I'd be a bit more blase about it. Its not like its his first pre-season is it. Are you blasé about next season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty Swallocks Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 40 minutes ago, bcfc01 said: Then why comment on the interview ? The "blase" comment needs to be taken into context with the question and, after 26 years or so of pre-season interviews, I'd be a bit more blase about it. Its not like its his first pre-season is it. He’s also being interviewed over 5 weeks before the season starts. If he was interviewed in the week leading up to the Hull game I’d imagine the excitement from the concerts would have subsided and full focus would be towards the season starting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcdc Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 1 hour ago, cityloyal473 said: He’s the captain of the ship and if losses have occurred on his watch then he should take the wrap for it. Much of this mess is Ashton’s making and SL recruited and employed him. That’s on him. I’ve not watched the interview but if he’s genuinely said he’s ‘blasé’ about the season then it’s time he sold up and went. We don’t need an owner who is blasé about his most high profile sporting asset. And it’s actually quite demeaning to the thousands who’ve shelled out again in a huge cost of living crisis. I’m actually high blasé to his leadership and tenure at city. He’s managed to polish a turd (the ground (maybe the HPC) and hats off to him for that) but there little else to show for it. And as for concerts and all the other nonsense- if that now floats his boat then it speaks to diminished interest in city more generally. Key phrase here is “I’ve not watched the interview…” Simple answer to that, watch it, and then you won’t waste anyone’s time (including your own) putting words into Lansdown’s mouth, and getting it wrong. He isn’t blase about owning City and he he isn’t “actually quite demeaning” to City fans . You’ve had an utter shocker here. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfc01 Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 9 minutes ago, cityloyal473 said: Are you blasé about next season? No, neither is SL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 11 minutes ago, bcdc said: Is he Peter Hargreaves’ what, exactly? Hargreaves famously said he supported Brexit as a period of chaos would create good moneymaking opportunities for him. Maybe Lansdown was trying to follow the same plan with the Holden appointment? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinmans Love Child Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 15 minutes ago, bcdc said: Is he Peter Hargreaves’ what, exactly? Ooops ignore the extra s! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcdc Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 8 minutes ago, Tinmans Love Child said: Ooops ignore the extra s! Will do ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 I do wonder whether , when listening to recent player arrival interviews , and the aspects that attracted them here, whether he reflects on his failure to act , back , when he asked Danny Wilson what he would do with a million pounds if he gave him it , with Wilson’s reply he’d build a top training ground , (sorry High Performance Centre) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merrick's Marvels Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 (edited) Is it really too much to expect a question or two about how we came to be in such a perilous ffp position, about the disastrous appointment of Dean Holden, about why we now have to go shopping for players in Oxford not Chelsea? Of course it is. All that's brushed under the carpet and airbrushed away in one word - "covid". What a coward. Maybe it's embarrassment or ego. You don't get to be a billionaire by admitting you got things wrong though, it would seem. He can be proud of the infrastructure he's built and putting big gigs on for the city and region but why he has to come on Robins tv to waffle on about it is beyond me. Edited June 25, 2022 by Merrick's Marvels 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said: Is it really too much to expect a question or two about how we came to be in such a perilous ffp position, about the disastrous appointment of Dean Holden, about why we now have to go shopping for players in Oxford not Chelsea? Of course it is. All that's brushed under the carpet and airbrushed away in one word - "covid". What a coward. Maybe it's embarrassment or ego. You don't get to be a billionaire by admitting you got things wrong though, it would seem. He can be proud of the infrastructure he's built and putting big gigs on for the city and region but why he has to come on Robins tv to waffle on about it is beyond me. Indeed. But if the in house interviewer came out with “so Steve, why did you let Mark Ashton have so much autonomy?” His ass would be travelling out the door quicker than an Alan Walsh free kick. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Red Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 26 minutes ago, Merrick's Marvels said: He can be proud of the infrastructure he's built and putting big gigs on for the city and region but why he has to come on Robins tv to waffle on about it is beyond me. My thoughts exactly. Whilst we all appreciate the extra income and revenue the developed stadium has brought - is Robins Tv really the format to be gloating and patting himself on the back about it? SL has become almost a marmite figure for City fans recently it seems. You have the staunch supporters of him and then you have the doubters and critics, as much as I appreciate the infrastructure he has built for the club I’ve doubted his stewardship for quite a few years now. I know people will say there is nothing much in the ‘blasé’ comment but for me the body language said more for me than the comment. He looks and has looked pretty done with the football side of things for a while now - i think the whole MA disaster and then the Holden appointment has broken him somewhat and what ever appetite he did have for the football club has gone. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Merrick's Marvels said: Is it really too much to expect a question or two about how we came to be in such a perilous ffp position, about the disastrous appointment of Dean Holden, about why we now have to go shopping for players in Oxford not Chelsea? Of course it is. All that's brushed under the carpet and airbrushed away in one word - "covid". What a coward. Maybe it's embarrassment or ego. You don't get to be a billionaire by admitting you got things wrong though, it would seem. He can be proud of the infrastructure he's built and putting big gigs on for the city and region but why he has to come on Robins tv to waffle on about it is beyond me. For me it seemed like he was wary about talking about football too much for fear of the manager having a pop like happened to Jon! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_clevedon Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 For an interesting comparison, watch 'Take Us Home', the documentary on Leeds Utd's bid to get back to the PL. I'm not remotely a Leeds fan (far from it) but the comparison between the passion & drive from their owner, Radrizzani, with the Lansdowns is quite stark. That's not a criticism of the Lansdowns by the way, you can't change your personality. But maybe what City have lacked over recent years is that drive from the top. Hence one or two comments from Pearson last season about City being too passive (or words to that effect). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 1 hour ago, phil_clevedon said: For an interesting comparison, watch 'Take Us Home', the documentary on Leeds Utd's bid to get back to the PL. I'm not remotely a Leeds fan (far from it) but the comparison between the passion & drive from their owner, Radrizzani, with the Lansdowns is quite stark. That's not a criticism of the Lansdowns by the way, you can't change your personality. But maybe what City have lacked over recent years is that drive from the top. Hence one or two comments from Pearson last season about City being too passive (or words to that effect). You reminded me - I watched the below the other day and found it a really enjoyable and interesting watch , that I think may appeal to a few , especially those old enough to remember this period Its the story of Howard Wilkinson rebuild of Leeds after they dropped into the now Championship , some years post Revie, before winning the League Title in second season back (The last English manager I guess to win the Top title) The characters he recruited, the personalities and ‘winners’ on the training ground and on the pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 4 hours ago, glynriley said: Indeed. But if the in house interviewer came out with “so Steve, why did you let Mark Ashton have so much autonomy?” His ass would be travelling out the door quicker than an Alan Walsh free kick. Courageous woman on Russian tv managed it, what are they made of at Bobbins tv? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YGBjammy Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 SLs tenure certainly hasn't been perfect but in a world where we could be owned by someone we never see, a country with horrible human rights records, or simply run into the ground and potentially losing the club; I will happily take Lansdown. Certainly don't think he's as good as he could have been, but who is? I guess I'm just saying careful what you wish for. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 23 hours ago, Sheltons Army said: I assume as you have disciples - You are the ‘chosen one’ Move forward ........First cross on the left please 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 Since you and Mr Dawe kicked SC out we have undoubtedly fallen away and are now one of the relegation favs. Meanwhile your other non football revenue streams will see you ok for the years ahead, BCFC meanwhile are just part of something else now and "Nige" will no doubt bring a few more punters in until the fans see that we arent going anywhere anytime soon due to you being quite happy to be just about where we are now for many years to come. Cup/promotion winning SC will be a close second to AD`s promotion winning squad that took us to the top div.....a million miles away from where we are now; epic fail on manager selection from you Steve for sure, nothing to smile about from me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 1 hour ago, gl2 said: Since you and Mr Dawe kicked SC out we have undoubtedly fallen away and are now one of the relegation favs. Meanwhile your other non football revenue streams will see you ok for the years ahead, BCFC meanwhile are just part of something else now and "Nige" will no doubt bring a few more punters in until the fans see that we arent going anywhere anytime soon due to you being quite happy to be just about where we are now for many years to come. Cup/promotion winning SC will be a close second to AD`s promotion winning squad that took us to the top div.....a million miles away from where we are now; epic fail on manager selection from you Steve for sure, nothing to smile about from me When Cotts departed we were one of the relegation favourites, upon Johnson’s departure we were a mid table team, on Holden’s we were facing relation and under Pearson we’re probably at the top of the bottom third. So it’s interesting how you say ‘since’ cotts we’ve fallen away when 2 of 3 managers since have had city higher when they left or at present 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TedsHeadIs Red Posted June 26, 2022 Report Share Posted June 26, 2022 (edited) You need a good football man to manage the team and a successful businessman to own and steer the club. We have both. The main issues with SL have been 1) Employment of MA. You can criticise other appointments but MA was the overriding issue. That’s behind us now. 2) The nepotism of involving his son in the club who is not really up to it (but ineffective is better than harmful) 3) He’s too nice, which has instilled a ‘soft’ club culture. But in appointing NP he has put that right (NP is not a ‘natural appointment for SL so credit to him for overcoming his instinct on that) Future is bright. Edited June 26, 2022 by TedsHeadIs Red 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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