GrahamC Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 Now been confirmed by James Piercy the story some of us had already heard, that he’s training with the U23s & also that Ipswich aren’t interested in taking him back. Looks like the best solution (unless someone will take him off our hands for good) is that he joins someone on a season long loan until his contract runs out. The relationship between him & NP has apparently got even worse since his return, he won’t play for us again. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P'head Red Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 Fortunately I can't see him being in a very big wage at all, but it's still a waste of a wage. Hopefully we can find him a club who'll take him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 Such a liability on the ball. Shame really because his desire to play the ball forward is so commendable. Really thought he looked the real deal when he broke through… sadly it didn’t continue. 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calculus Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 (edited) If it's an attitude thing and it's got that bad maybe we should pay him up and get rid. Why have him hanging around with young developing players? Edited June 25, 2022 by Calculus 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NcnsBcfc Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 21 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Now been confirmed by James Piercy the story some of us had already heard, that he’s training with the U23s & also that Ipswich aren’t interested in taking him back. Looks like the best solution (unless someone will take him off our hands for good) is that he joins someone on a season long loan until his contract runs out. The relationship between him & NP has apparently got even worse since his return, he won’t play for us again. No cuddles from Nigel on the first day of training then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted June 25, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 8 minutes ago, NcnsBcfc said: No cuddles from Nigel on the first day of training then? Quite the reverse, apparently.. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NcnsBcfc Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 1 minute ago, GrahamC said: Quite the reverse, apparently.. Got something like Plymouth (again) or Cheltenham written all over it on a season's loan hasn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted June 25, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 1 minute ago, NcnsBcfc said: Got something like Plymouth (again) or Cheltenham written all over it on a season's loan hasn't it? You’d think so. The only positive is his loan spell at Ipswich wasn’t too bad, so hopefully he’s come to the attention of someone else at that level, plus he & his agent must know now he’s finished here, so he needs to be in the shop window for when his contract finishes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 8 minutes ago, GrahamC said: Quite the reverse, apparently.. You see, this is where Robins "Uncut" is a misnomer, I wonder if the media team have some juicy outtakes that only make it to in-house showings? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engvall’s Splinter Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 32 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: Such a liability on the ball. Shame really because his desire to play the ball forward is so commendable. Really thought he looked the real deal when he broke through… sadly it didn’t continue. I reckon he’ll drop off into obscurity similar to Jordan Wynter. I watched him in his first couple of games and thought he had something only for him to vanish. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 He is completely finished here, I don’t ever recall such a public and acrimonious exit for a player, and he was just on loan! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, Engvall’s Splinter said: I reckon he’ll drop off into obscurity similar to Jordan Wynter. I watched him in his first couple of games and thought he had something only for him to vanish. Wow! I just looked him up and he really did almost vanish. He actually played 10 games for a team in the Southern League 1st Division. In comparison being with Dartford in the National League South is a step back up the ladder for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlesh*t Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 Where does the club stand on what we have to offer him? Obviously he is entitled to his wages but can we say to him he isn't able to use any facilities or train at all with us. I get this will mean his fitness won't be upto scratch and it may make it harder to loan or sell him but if he is really that bad attitude wise surely it will be better to have him as far away as possible from any players. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dredd Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 58 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: Such a liability on the ball. Shame really because his desire to play the ball forward is so commendable. Really thought he looked the real deal when he broke through… sadly it didn’t continue. When he’s on the ball I thought he showed some real promise. Used it well, some good through balls, popped up with a few goals. It was his complete lack of movement, urgency and desire off the ball that infuriated most fans, and possibly Nige. As much as football fans will forgive a lack of technical ability if a player puts in all the effort possible, they won’t put up with laziness on the pitch. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 Quite amazing that Nige thought he deserved a new contract very recently 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerseybean Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/bristol-city-ipswich-town-midfielder-7253582 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerseybean Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 Maybe LJ will take TB and perhaps even Taylor Moore to Hibs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Dante Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 10 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: Quite amazing that Nige thought he deserved a new contract very recently To be fair, it wasn’t necessarily “deserving” a new deal, it was that we had a one year option and, IIRC, we utilised it to “protect the value”. However, you would have thought that Bakinsons attitude issues were apparent at the time of extension. Clearly, we gambled that he’d do well at Ipswich (his pattern is starting well, getting comfortable and dropping off) and they’d want to buy hence the extension was worth the gamble. The problem in a way is that no matter how well he did, we’ve been very clear we don’t want him back which puts buyers at an advantage. I wouldn’t be shocked if Ipswich hadn’t taken up the option price, but still intend to buy, and Ashton is playing our situation to try and get Ty for less. We’ve screwed ourselves over a bit here. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRaw Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 18 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: Quite amazing that Nige thought he deserved a new contract very recently He didn’t. The club just triggered a one year extension in the hope we might get a fee for him 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoystonFoote'snephew Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 20 minutes ago, Dredd said: When he’s on the ball I thought he showed some real promise. Used it well, some good through balls, popped up with a few goals. It was his complete lack of movement, urgency and desire off the ball that infuriated most fans, and possibly Nige. As much as football fans will forgive a lack of technical ability if a player puts in all the effort possible, they won’t put up with laziness on the pitch. Spot on. Moving him on will not be easy if he gets a reputation across the EFL of having a bad attitude. I can only hope feedback any prospective takers can get from Ipswich is more positive than it will be from here. Sadly, if you want rid promote them doesn't really work in football. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 10 minutes ago, RedRaw said: He didn’t. The club just triggered a one year extension in the hope we might get a fee for him Well that decision has backfired hasn’t it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calculus Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 15 minutes ago, RoystonFoote'snephew said: Spot on. Moving him on will not be easy if he gets a reputation across the EFL of having a bad attitude. I can only hope feedback any prospective takers can get from Ipswich is more positive than it will be from here. Sadly, if you want rid promote them doesn't really work in football. You would think so, but football is full of managers that think they can succeed with a player where others have failed. Mind you, even Ashton won't take Bakinson back, which says something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 I can see a mutual termination towards the end of the window coming for him, then him becoming a journey man dropping down the leagues 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 37 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: Well that decision has backfired hasn’t it! Has the transfer window closed yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo II Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 He’s going to end up at bloody Rovers, isn’t he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 1 minute ago, samo II said: He’s going to end up at bloody Rovers, isn’t he? Hopefully do as well as the rest of our cast off they sign, and get them relegated 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dredd Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 1 hour ago, And Its Smith said: Well that decision has backfired hasn’t it! I’m not sure it has at the moment. The one year extension wouldn’t have likely included a pay rise, and I think there’s still a chance to get a few quid for him. He’s got championship experience, and I think probably still has a reputation as a unrealised talent from his Luton days. Someone’s always willing to take a punt on that kind of player and be the one who gets the best out of them - Palmer, JET (though I think we did - others didn’t), Berahino, Ravell Morrison, etc 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Fordy62 said: Such a liability on the ball. Shame really because his desire to play the ball forward is so commendable. Really thought he looked the real deal when he broke through… sadly it didn’t continue. Indeed, however his success rate stats (not the be all and end all) were the worst in the Championship! There were times when he tried more impossible balls through the eye of a needle than Palmer. Commendable but not conducive to building decent attacks, especially then when possession is ceded he shows little capability to do his job defensively. 1 hour ago, Silvio Dante said: To be fair, it wasn’t necessarily “deserving” a new deal, it was that we had a one year option and, IIRC, we utilised it to “protect the value”. However, you would have thought that Bakinsons attitude issues were apparent at the time of extension. Clearly, we gambled that he’d do well at Ipswich (his pattern is starting well, getting comfortable and dropping off) and they’d want to buy hence the extension was worth the gamble. The problem in a way is that no matter how well he did, we’ve been very clear we don’t want him back which puts buyers at an advantage. I wouldn’t be shocked if Ipswich hadn’t taken up the option price, but still intend to buy, and Ashton is playing our situation to try and get Ty for less. We’ve screwed ourselves over a bit here. Gut feel is he’s not on huge wages. Signed a 3+1 deal in May 2019 aged 20, so I doubt he commanded silly money then. The gamble hasn’t worked, but as you say it wasn’t a “new deal”, just a chance to see if we could eke a fee out of someone, or that he might buckle down and make it here. Someone will take him, either permanently or on loan, and I suspect most if not all of his wages will be covered, so I suspect any loss be tinsy-winsy. Amortisation-wise, virtually all of his fee to Luton has been “sunk”, so very different to someone like Palmer. Edited June 25, 2022 by Davefevs 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Jerseybean said: Maybe LJ will take TB and perhaps even Taylor Moore to Hibs. TB would get murdered in the Scot's Prem, whatever else people think of it, it's 90 miles an hour at the best of times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loosey Boy Posted June 25, 2022 Report Share Posted June 25, 2022 I’m glad Nige is sticking to his guns here (not that I ever doubted he would ) - TBs attitude has been poor for a long time - he thinks he’s better than he actually is…..L1 player 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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