t_b Posted June 30, 2022 Report Share Posted June 30, 2022 Good article in The Athletic here about Jay Spearing at 33 turning down a contract with Tranmere to return to Liverpool and coach their academy kids - but with the mentality that he will be a registered player and available to play in academy games as well (although obviously not in the first team PL 25 man squad. It shows a good transitional path available to players as they start to consider the end (Andy King?) whilst benefiting the younger generation 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted June 30, 2022 Report Share Posted June 30, 2022 Southampton do the same. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocking Red Cyril Posted June 30, 2022 Report Share Posted June 30, 2022 10 hours ago, Davefevs said: Southampton do the same. And the relevance of that is 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted June 30, 2022 Report Share Posted June 30, 2022 Don't agree with the idea of signing an overage player to play academy football personally if you have a 1-11 of good enough developing players in each position, all you do is stop a young player getting game time. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted June 30, 2022 Report Share Posted June 30, 2022 10 hours ago, Davefevs said: Southampton do the same. Brighton had Gary Dicker doing it, he managed to get himself sent off in a Papa John's game last season playing for their U21s. Think Paul McShane does it at Man Utd also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted June 30, 2022 Report Share Posted June 30, 2022 32 minutes ago, Rocking Red Cyril said: And the relevance of that is I'm not sure, but could it be that Southampton seem to bring through a lot of talented youngsters so, as it apparently works for them, it might be a good idea and worth trying here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBB Posted June 30, 2022 Report Share Posted June 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Rocking Red Cyril said: And the relevance of that is That Southampton do the same. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocking Red Cyril Posted June 30, 2022 Report Share Posted June 30, 2022 36 minutes ago, PHILINFRANCE said: I'm not sure, but could it be that Southampton seem to bring through a lot of talented youngsters so, as it apparently works for them, it might be a good idea and worth trying here? Yes agreed, but not many follow this idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted June 30, 2022 Report Share Posted June 30, 2022 1 hour ago, PHILINFRANCE said: I'm not sure, but could it be that Southampton seem to bring through a lot of talented youngsters so, as it apparently works for them, it might be a good idea and worth trying here? Southampton brought through talented youngsters before they did this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebristolred Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 2 hours ago, Rocking Red Cyril said: And the relevance of that is Yeah come on Dave pipe down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 5 hours ago, Lrrr said: Southampton brought through talented youngsters before they did this Well, of course, a certain Gareth Bale being one of many, and they have been renowned for their youth production for many years - their academy was even taking promising youngsters from the Bath area. Nevertheless, they seem to have adopted a system whereby an experienced elder player actually plays in their academy team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 1 hour ago, PHILINFRANCE said: Well, of course, a certain Gareth Bale being one of many, and they have been renowned for their youth production for many years - their academy was even taking promising youngsters from the Bath area. Nevertheless, they seem to have adopted a system whereby an experienced elder player actually plays in their academy team. Point being they were doing it on a consistent basis long before they were doing this so it’s not like this has made them successful at doing it when they were anyway. What happens to the young player who plays in that position? If you’re a second year scholar (18) would you sign a pro deal at Southampton knowing there’s one less spot in your position for getting game time at 23‘s level Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSam Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 9 hours ago, Rocking Red Cyril said: And the relevance of that is ...that they have an epic youth set up that regularly churns out talent? So, no relevance, really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Lrrr said: Point being they were doing it on a consistent basis long before they were doing this so it’s not like this has made them successful at doing it when they were anyway. What happens to the young player who plays in that position? If you’re a second year scholar (18) would you sign a pro deal at Southampton knowing there’s one less spot in your position for getting game time at 23‘s level It might be a crap idea, it might be the next evolution of academy development. The counter to your argument argument is that although one scholar might miss out (decide not to sign), the other 10 teammates develop quicker. We need to open our minds to new approaches. Kaizen! 10 hours ago, Rocking Red Cyril said: And the relevance of that is the relevance it’s not just one club doing it. Edited July 1, 2022 by Davefevs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted July 1, 2022 Report Share Posted July 1, 2022 8 hours ago, Davefevs said: It might be a crap idea, it might be the next evolution of academy development. The counter to your argument argument is that although one scholar might miss out (decide not to sign), the other 10 teammates develop quicker. We need to open our minds to new approaches. Kaizen! the relevance it’s not just one club doing it. I get the idea of it, another part of my belief is that on pitch it’s better for academy players work out what’s going wrong, if you have a senior player giving instructions for 90 minutes you could miss out on player thought development/problem solving in game as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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