East End Old Boy Posted July 21, 2022 Report Share Posted July 21, 2022 51 minutes ago, Leveller said: But a lot of stuff is still wildly overpackaged - you can still find four small croissants in a plastic tray tucked inside a plastic wrapper. Getting rid of a lot of that would be more profitable. I wonder how often the packaging costs more than the goods inside. They just need to dial down a bit on the over protection of the product. And the packaging that is purely for marketing purposes. Totally agree with your first comment, although the usual answer is probably shelf live/hygiene/protection etc. With regard to getting “rid of a lot would be more profitable”, the answer is who for, retailer or packaging industry? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBW Posted July 21, 2022 Report Share Posted July 21, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Clutton Caveman said: As the author of this post I am shocked and dismayed by most of the reaction. I am not a green nut case, I drive a petrol car and fly quite a lot for work BUT my point was if this package was necessary it would be 100% recyclable if the packer material used to create the indent for the contents was eliminated. The cut out in this section would also have gone to waste. I work in the packaging industry when massive thought goes into creating functional packaging that can be easily recycled. such as getting rid of shrink wrap for coke cans and the plastic rings for 6 beer packs. Bearing in mind the heat of the last few days should we not at least think about recycling Cry harder. Via Wynes & Nicholas, Environmental Research Letters the below would (per person taking action) save the specified number of tonnes of CO2 per year. .. Have one less child, 58.6 Live car free, 2.4 Avoid one transatlantic flight, 1.6 Buy green energy, 1.47 Switch electric car to car free, 1.15 Eat a plant based diet, 0.82 Replace typical car with hybrid, 0.52 Wash clothes in cold water, 0.25 Hang dry clothes, 0.21 Recycle, 0.21 Upgrade light bulbs, 0.1 13,000 less bits of foam isn't going to change the world buddy. How much of the other stuff above are you willing to give up? Your regular flights alone look like they're probably worse than the foam used for every STH combined. Edited July 21, 2022 by TBW 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted July 21, 2022 Admin Report Share Posted July 21, 2022 56 minutes ago, pillred said: It would have been better if the package had been simpler and they had included a fixture list and wallet like they used to which to most would have been more useful than a keyring but I suppose it's nice they went to the effort to make it a bit more memorable. I will just have to recycle one of my old ones. Fixtures were released way after the printing was done for the original season cards - with technology nowadays who can't access a fixture list in moments from a mobile? Was handy in its time, but nothing more than a waster of money now Surely most people insert their card into a wallet like a bank card? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Park Reds Posted July 21, 2022 Report Share Posted July 21, 2022 I’m switching the microwave and Alexa off at night but I’m keeping this key ring clutton caveman! it’s a thing of beauty. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted July 21, 2022 Report Share Posted July 21, 2022 1 hour ago, phantom said: Fixtures were released way after the printing was done for the original season cards - with technology nowadays who can't access a fixture list in moments from a mobile? Was handy in its time, but nothing more than a waster of money now Surely most people insert their card into a wallet like a bank card? I can't believe we haven't moved to digital season tickets on the app or digital wallet that you can just get on your phone and do away with anything physical that needs to be sent. Ok I get not everyone has a smartphone but at least make it an option and maybe knock a tenner off to incentives its use. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeez Posted July 21, 2022 Report Share Posted July 21, 2022 2 hours ago, TBW said: Cry harder. Via Wynes & Nicholas, Environmental Research Letters the below would (per person taking action) save the specified number of tonnes of CO2 per year. .. Have one less child, 58.6 Live car free, 2.4 Avoid one transatlantic flight, 1.6 Buy green energy, 1.47 Switch electric car to car free, 1.15 Eat a plant based diet, 0.82 Replace typical car with hybrid, 0.52 Wash clothes in cold water, 0.25 Hang dry clothes, 0.21 Recycle, 0.21 Upgrade light bulbs, 0.1 13,000 less bits of foam isn't going to change the world buddy. How much of the other stuff above are you willing to give up? Your regular flights alone look like they're probably worse than the foam used for every STH combined. You make some brilliant points - the club and sponsors can also make smarter decisions on packaging, bit by bit the use of unnecessary plastic and carbon footprint diminishes and it happens by people raising aspects like you & the OP have. It will influence the corporate decision makers & give them something to consider in their meetings when consumers show their dissatisfaction. Trust me this stuff does get through & in current climate crisis no business can ignore their responsibilities. Hubboo the UK largest e-commerce logistics platform - if they take note the impact becomes so much greater. BCFC - hopefully they can see we don’t need corporate landfill Knick-knacks so they can in-future save money, carbon & reduce landfill. Or as @Pezo says let’s go digital passes with cards for those that need them. At the end of the day we are all responsible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted July 21, 2022 Report Share Posted July 21, 2022 5 hours ago, TBW said: Cry harder. Via Wynes & Nicholas, Environmental Research Letters the below would (per person taking action) save the specified number of tonnes of CO2 per year. .. Have one less child, 58.6 Live car free, 2.4 Avoid one transatlantic flight, 1.6 Buy green energy, 1.47 Switch electric car to car free, 1.15 Eat a plant based diet, 0.82 Replace typical car with hybrid, 0.52 Wash clothes in cold water, 0.25 Hang dry clothes, 0.21 Recycle, 0.21 Upgrade light bulbs, 0.1 13,000 less bits of foam isn't going to change the world buddy. How much of the other stuff above are you willing to give up? Your regular flights alone look like they're probably worse than the foam used for every STH combined. Well I’ve done my bit. I always planned to have five kids, but in the end I only had one. That’s me covered for a good few years then. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattWSM Posted July 21, 2022 Report Share Posted July 21, 2022 I want to swap my season ticket seat just for the first game so I can sit with a friend. Do I need to call the club or can I do this online? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannerman Posted July 21, 2022 Report Share Posted July 21, 2022 2 hours ago, Jeez said: You make some brilliant points - the club and sponsors can also make smarter decisions on packaging, bit by bit the use of unnecessary plastic and carbon footprint diminishes and it happens by people raising aspects like you & the OP have. It will influence the corporate decision makers & give them something to consider in their meetings when consumers show their dissatisfaction. Trust me this stuff does get through & in current climate crisis no business can ignore their responsibilities. Hubboo the UK largest e-commerce logistics platform - if they take note the impact becomes so much greater. BCFC - hopefully they can see we don’t need corporate landfill Knick-knacks so they can in-future save money, carbon & reduce landfill. Or as @Pezo says let’s go digital passes with cards for those that need them. At the end of the day we are all responsible. No am not responsible for the greedy and corrupt multinational companies. They forced us to accept their products such as food, schooling, education (propaganda and institutionalisation) money, cars, buses, trains, utilities the list is endless. Measurements to change could have been done 100 years ago. It’s all about power and control and force feeding bulls**t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted July 21, 2022 Report Share Posted July 21, 2022 8 hours ago, phantom said: Fixtures were released way after the printing was done for the original season cards - with technology nowadays who can't access a fixture list in moments from a mobile? Was handy in its time, but nothing more than a waster of money now Surely most people insert their card into a wallet like a bank card? Three problems one I don't have a mobile phone and two they used to supply a fixture list with your season card oh! and three I don't have a wallet but I realise I'm probably in a minority of one not having a mobile :laugh:. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted July 22, 2022 Admin Report Share Posted July 22, 2022 13 hours ago, MattWSM said: I want to swap my season ticket seat just for the first game so I can sit with a friend. Do I need to call the club or can I do this online? You have to call the ticket office, they will sort it out for you 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always red Posted July 22, 2022 Report Share Posted July 22, 2022 Agree, to a certain extent with OP. Rather have a decent defensive midfielder (with some pace) rather than a key ring. By the way just ripped off foam and recycled the rest. The recycling boys just took it Good performance on the pitch rather than gimmicks for me please 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betty Swallocks Posted July 22, 2022 Report Share Posted July 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Always red said: Agree, to a certain extent with OP. Rather have a decent defensive midfielder (with some pace) rather than a key ring. By the way just ripped off foam and recycled the rest. The recycling boys just took it Good performance on the pitch rather than gimmicks for me please Don’t think there’s enough defensive midfielders in the game for each of the 14,000 season ticket holders to receive one. Imagine the size of packaging needed for that as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always red Posted July 22, 2022 Report Share Posted July 22, 2022 (edited) Gerry Gow wasn't very big! Just saying Edited July 22, 2022 by Always red Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS13 Robin Posted July 22, 2022 Report Share Posted July 22, 2022 On 21/07/2022 at 17:32, Pezo said: I can't believe we haven't moved to digital season tickets on the app or digital wallet that you can just get on your phone and do away with anything physical that needs to be sent. Ok I get not everyone has a smartphone but at least make it an option and maybe knock a tenner off to incentives its use. Sorry but what the hell is a "digital wallet"is it the same type as i keep my bank cards in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted July 22, 2022 Report Share Posted July 22, 2022 32 minutes ago, BS13 Robin said: Sorry but what the hell is a "digital wallet"is it the same type as i keep my bank cards in? It's a wallet on your phone - so you can put your bank cards on your phone and not need a physical wallet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS13 Robin Posted July 22, 2022 Report Share Posted July 22, 2022 6 minutes ago, Pezo said: It's a wallet on your phone - so you can put your bank cards on your phone and not need a physical wallet. Thanks that sounds a bit technical for this 62 year old!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted July 22, 2022 Report Share Posted July 22, 2022 (edited) 33 minutes ago, BS13 Robin said: Thanks that sounds a bit technical for this 62 year old!! Physical wallet? at 62 if you dropped it you would probably put your back out picking it back up again, :laugh:. Edited July 22, 2022 by pillred Spelling 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS13 Robin Posted July 23, 2022 Report Share Posted July 23, 2022 16 hours ago, pillred said: Physical wallet? at 62 if you dropped it you would probably put your back out picking it back up again, :laugh:. Thats a fair point actually,perhaps i should look into one of these digital wallets!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OddBallJim Posted July 23, 2022 Report Share Posted July 23, 2022 Probably turn mine into a photo frame. Saw someone had done this on Twitter. Seemed a good use for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t_b Posted July 23, 2022 Report Share Posted July 23, 2022 My main concern with it is that no one has considered the air miles involved in shipping 14,000 of these over to Barbados for Jon boy to sign before shipping them back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cov 77 Posted July 23, 2022 Report Share Posted July 23, 2022 On 20/07/2022 at 15:11, Clutton Caveman said: I have just received my new season ticket. First impression was " wow that's nice" on reflection I am not so happy. If the package did not have the foam layer it could go directly into the cardboard recycle bin. With the foam it cannot. The foam is totally non recyclable. Few people will separate the foam from the cardboard. As such over 12,000 of these will go to landfill. The board will break down in time, the foam will take decades. The key ring is nice but I bet that over 50% stay at the back of a drawer or get thrown out for more landfill. Bearing in mind our financial; position, would anyone not been happy with a strong envelope containing the card and if necessary the key ring. This has nothing to do with sale promotion. We have all already purchased. Hate to see such a waste of money and no regard for the environment. Not really related but just noted that the promo bit on the website ,’Get your season tickets’ that has said for weeks over 13,000 season tickets have been sold now reads over 13,500 now sold on the bottom of the Weimann interview , ticking on I suppose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italian dave Posted July 24, 2022 Report Share Posted July 24, 2022 Evidently not a popular view, but I’m with @Clutton Caveman on this. It just seemed a bit unnecessary: nice touch, maybe, but then surely an e-commerce firm could come up with something compostable, degradable or whatever. And despite what posters say, they will get thrown away - eventually. And you could use the ‘it’s only 13000’ argument about anything, the point is all those ‘only 13000’s add up. 10billion blue mask wrongs don’t make 13000 foam boxes right. Or something like that. But most of all I’m annoyed I didn’t realise what a demand there’d be for these things. I chucked mine away last week; if only I’d realised how many people might have wanted it as a picture frame or a storage box….. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted July 24, 2022 Report Share Posted July 24, 2022 On 22/07/2022 at 23:06, pillred said: Physical wallet? at 62 if you dropped it you would probably put your back out picking it back up again, :laugh:. At 62 picking it up after dropping it is not the main problem. Before leaving the house, remembering where you last left it is the big one! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphindevon Posted July 24, 2022 Report Share Posted July 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, downendcity said: At 62 picking it up after dropping it is not the main problem. Before leaving the house, remembering where you last left it is the big one! A digital wallet isn’t without its worries or problems either. Last week I went to the T20 finals day in Birmingham. I had my train tickets, match day tickets, hotel reservation, bust tickets, debit card and credit card and all my contacts numbers on my phone. I did have a moment where I thought a major failure of my phone now and I’ll be wandering around Birmingham homeless for weeks. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviestevieneville Posted July 24, 2022 Report Share Posted July 24, 2022 On 20/07/2022 at 15:11, Clutton Caveman said: I have just received my new season ticket. First impression was " wow that's nice" on reflection I am not so happy. If the package did not have the foam layer it could go directly into the cardboard recycle bin. With the foam it cannot. The foam is totally non recyclable. Few people will separate the foam from the cardboard. As such over 12,000 of these will go to landfill. The board will break down in time, the foam will take decades. The key ring is nice but I bet that over 50% stay at the back of a drawer or get thrown out for more landfill. Bearing in mind our financial; position, would anyone not been happy with a strong envelope containing the card and if necessary the key ring. This has nothing to do with sale promotion. We have all already purchased. Hate to see such a waste of money and no regard for the environment. Un ******* believable 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Londoner Posted July 24, 2022 Report Share Posted July 24, 2022 Whilst on the subject of season cards, is anyone else yet to receive theirs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FForbes Posted July 24, 2022 Report Share Posted July 24, 2022 I refer you to a post on the "Blue few" official website "Club Statement - Season Tickets" regarding the pickle they have got into with season cards and e-tickets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petehinton Posted July 24, 2022 Report Share Posted July 24, 2022 Anyone know/heard anything around the store discounts? Want to buy the third kit shirt but didn’t know if the 10% discount is still a thing or still tbc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted July 24, 2022 Report Share Posted July 24, 2022 30 minutes ago, FForbes said: I refer you to a post on the "Blue few" official website "Club Statement - Season Tickets" regarding the pickle they have got into with season cards and e-tickets. Just been over to slagchat and it all looks like one almighty disaster waiting to happen when they play FGR next Saturday! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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