Sunderland at home match day thread

[bexhill reds]

2 minutes ago, Johnr1986 said:

Has to plays wells over Martin it’s been a painful watch today. 

Martin is in there for his defensive work in the box, tends to win a lot of headers at corners. Get someone else that can do that then perhaps so.

2 minutes ago, tts_city said:

How about learning the lesson that vyner is shit ? that would be a decent start for me.

Problem is who else until Kalas is fit?

[ORANGE500]

1 minute ago, tts_city said:

How about learning the lesson that vyner is shit ? that would be a decent start for me.

So are many others in the team that's why they're not very good. Sell Scott to fund better players but I guess you'll moan at that too

[Banjo Red]

3 minutes ago, Roger Red Hat said:

And then what are you going to do?

Take up table tennis

[AshtonRobin21]

Priority position is a new right centre back. 

I was going to give Vyner some credit during the first half. But my word that defending for their second goal is criminal. 

He looked as though his feet were trapped in cement. Made no effort to get to the ball. 

Far too inconsistent to be a championship regular. 

 

Overall I felt we gave it a good go. In possession we look like a top half championship club. Out of position a bottom half club. 

Too keen to play out from the back for the first go. I feel that Bentley shouldn't be giving the ball to Naismith there to begin with. But Bentley was solid throughout, not alot he could do for the goals. 

Alex Scott was a step above. If the Prem Vultures aren't circling already, they might well be after that performance. He controls the game so well. 

[bexhill reds]

Just now, AshtonRobin21 said:

Alex Scott was a step above. If the Prem Vultures aren't circling already, they might well be after that performance. He controls the game so well. 

Might be that we need to sell to improve elsewhere, might be a more positive move overall than we think

[mjd]

Oh  well i am bristol city fan so I am  ment to suffer, must have done something wrong in my  previous life  

[Wanderingred]

Well what a surprise, 3000 away fans come to our ground, have a great time and go home happy. Is there ever any other outcome? 

Two games in, winning in both and threw both away. I think it’s obvious to see that we’re gonna be in for another long hard slog this season, with plenty of late goals conceded and leads thrown away. Gotta grin and bear it I’m afraid.

Edited August 6, 2022 by Wanderingred

[Redrascal2]

7 minutes ago, RudiRed said:

Conceding 3 and could have been more - little progress made - yes we had decent chances ourselves but top teams don't conceed chances like we do. Starting to lose faith.

Something needs to change. We cannot just have a re run of last season. Otherwise it will surely end in relegation.

[Redinthehead]

Just disappointing, moments of looking decent but shaky in defence and just not quite there when it counted.

[roddy-d]

3 minutes ago, AshtonRobin21 said:

Priority position is a new right centre back. 

I was going to give Vyner some credit during the first half. But my word that defending for their second goal is criminal. 

He looked as though his feet were trapped in cement. Made no effort to get to the ball. 

Far too inconsistent to be a championship regular. 

 

Overall I felt we gave it a good go. In possession we look like a top half championship club. Out of position a bottom half club. 

Too keen to play out from the back for the first go. I feel that Bentley shouldn't be giving the ball to Naismith there to begin with. But Bentley was solid throughout, not alot he could do for the goals. 

Alex Scott was a step above. If the Prem Vultures aren't circling already, they might well be after that performance. He controls the game so well. 

Well I do think Bentley could learn to shut his legs so many balls go between his legs for goals. I’ve lost count myself. 

[AshtonRobin21]

1 minute ago, bexhill reds said:

Might be that we need to sell to improve elsewhere, might be a more positive move overall than we think

As long as it means Vyner doesn't have to start again. 

[Numero Uno]

4 minutes ago, AshtonRobin21 said:

Priority position is a new right centre back. 

I was going to give Vyner some credit during the first half. But my word that defending for their second goal is criminal. 

He looked as though his feet were trapped in cement. Made no effort to get to the ball. 

Far too inconsistent to be a championship regular. 

 

Overall I felt we gave it a good go. In possession we look like a top half championship club. Out of position a bottom half club. 

Too keen to play out from the back for the first go. I feel that Bentley shouldn't be giving the ball to Naismith there to begin with. But Bentley was solid throughout, not alot he could do for the goals. 

Alex Scott was a step above. If the Prem Vultures aren't circling already, they might well be after that performance. He controls the game so well. 

We desperately need some pace at the back otherwise two goal plus per game conceded won’t go away.

[AshtonGreat]

1 minute ago, Wanderingred said:

Well what a surprise, 3000 away fans come to our ground, have a great time and go home happy. Is there ever any other outcome? 

Two games in, winning in both and threw both away. I think it’s obvious to see that we’re gonna be in for another long hard slog this season, with plenty of late goals conceded and leads thrown away. Gotta grin and beer it I’m afraid.

Are they still in the old Atyeo? Woeful if so

[Sweeneys Penalties]

which clubs are due a points deduction?

[Sturgess]

1 minute ago, roddy-d said:

Well I do think Bentley could learn to shut his legs so many balls go between his legs for goals. I’ve lost count myself. 

Twice at least 

[Numero Uno]

1 minute ago, AshtonRobin21 said:

As long as it means Vyner doesn't have to start again. 

We all know Vyner is a stop gap but more concerning for me was Naismith didn’t even look that level.

[luke_bristol]

Handed them three goals today really, so sloppy.

[Northern Red]

2 minutes ago, Redrascal2 said:

Something needs to change. We cannot just have a re run of last season. Otherwise it will surely end in relegation.

Like it did last season?

[RudiRed]

Sell Scott and reinvest in squad. Otherwise its going to be a horrible season.

[roddy-d]

Just now, Sturgess said:

Twice at least 

Twice I’m on about ever since he joined Bristol city. 

[tts_city]

9 minutes ago, ORANGE500 said:

So are many others in the team that's why they're not very good. Sell Scott to fund better players but I guess you'll moan at that too

Guess all you like flower, now kindly **** off.

Edited August 6, 2022 by tts_city

[Johnr1986]

That is two loses from leading positions in the 2nd half, that’s really poor from Pearson , we are unable to hold  out for points under him exactly the same as last season. Something needs to change quickly. 

[bs3]

Two games two defeats , did we really expect anything different. 
We have struggled to compete for two years now , we haven’t improved our squad . 
This season will be the last in the championship for a very long time , the club is on a downward spiral. 
I expect abuse for this post but instead of abuse how about a reasoned argument that we can do well because frankly I can’t see any reason for optimism.

[Super]

Deserved nothing. Schoolboy defending

[Jerseybean]

2 minutes ago, Sweeneys Penalties said:

which clubs are due a points deduction?

Us! 

[Fuber]

2 minutes ago, AshtonRobin21 said:

Priority position is a new right centre back. 

I was going to give Vyner some credit during the first half. But my word that defending for their second goal is criminal. 

He looked as though his feet were trapped in cement. Made no effort to get to the ball. 

Far too inconsistent to be a championship regular. 

 

Overall I felt we gave it a good go. In possession we look like a top half championship club. Out of position a bottom half club. 

Too keen to play out from the back for the first go. I feel that Bentley shouldn't be giving the ball to Naismith there to begin with. But Bentley was solid throughout, not alot he could do for the goals. 

Alex Scott was a step above. If the Prem Vultures aren't circling already, they might well be after that performance. He controls the game so well. 

Disagree with the bold.

Put Naismith under unnecessary pressure for the first, and three times the ball has gone wide to Wingbacks with no momentum gained, just needs to go long. Sunderland looked to counter press wing backs at every opportunity.

Will add other was played worse today (Massengo, Vyner, Martin), just overall a not good performance.

Can't even have a go at the ref - thought Stroud was solid this afternoon.

Based on that performance:

- Need Jamo fit.

- Wouldn't miss Bents.

- Need a Striker, at least.

- Vyner should have been let go.

[Sturgess]

2 minutes ago, roddy-d said:

Twice I’m on about ever since he joined Bristol city. 

Never mind. Maybe “twice” should’ve been “two” 

Edited August 6, 2022 by Sturgess

[Robin101]

Genuinely impressed at the 24,000 attendance. I’m following from afar and can’t say I’m feeling any huge motivation to get down the Gate after several very dull seasons so fair play to those who did. 

[RudiRed]

2 minutes ago, Northern Red said:

Like it did last season?

Saved my the dreadful Peterborough and Barnsley.

[MelksRed]

3 minutes ago, Johnr1986 said:

That is two loses from leading positions in the 2nd half, that’s really poor from Pearson , we are unable to hold  out for points under him exactly the same as last season. Something needs to change quickly. 

I wouldn't exactly say a 2 minute lead was a commanding position.

To be clear I do not disagree with your broader point.

Edited August 6, 2022 by MelksRed