Topper 123 Posted August 8, 2022 Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 I’ve never liked keepers as captains for me keepers to keep your eye on the ball I don’t understand how you can concentrate on the rest of the game when you’ve got a Marshall box, for me I’d like to see a leader in the middle of the park, for me Bentley don’t have the balls to be captain and there is no leadership from the last third The guy needs to concentrate on his goalkeeping 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted August 8, 2022 Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 Many many people in football say that the captains job is an overrated one on the pitch. It’s more of an off field job as a link between players and manager. Whether it’s Bentley or James or Williams or Klose, I don’t think it matters at all on the pitch 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Better Red Posted August 8, 2022 Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 Not that much choice One of only about 5 players likely to play every game. Kalas (if not sold) Williams (if stays fit) Naismith (if does not keep getting assists for the opposition) Wieman (will play every game) Seymnyo/Scott (will play but to young Give it to Wieman - leads from example with effort. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 8, 2022 Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 (edited) 32 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: Many many people in football say that the captains job is an overrated one on the pitch. It’s more of an off field job as a link between players and manager. Whether it’s Bentley or James or Williams or Klose, I don’t think it matters at all on the pitch Agree, it’s about leadership and communication on the pitch, not who has the armband. Noticeable at the HPC who the leaders and talkers are….Bentley, Naismith, James, Williams, and Klose. Edited August 8, 2022 by Davefevs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superjack Posted August 8, 2022 Report Share Posted August 8, 2022 I think Naismith will be captain eventually when he's settled. Already touted as a leader. I don't agree with giving it to Wiemann. Not that he's not capable, I just don't really like forwards as captains because most of the play is behind them. Defenders have the play in front of them and midfielders are central to everyone. Maybe a simplistic view I suppose. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logical-City Posted August 9, 2022 Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 7 hours ago, Superjack said: I think Naismith will be captain eventually when he's settled. Already touted as a leader. I don't agree with giving it to Wiemann. Not that he's not capable, I just don't really like forwards as captains because most of the play is behind them. Defenders have the play in front of them and midfielders are central to everyone. Maybe a simplistic view I suppose. Jury is still out on Naismith he has made 2 costly mistakes in single goal defeats in the first 2 games of the season and some fans are already on our managers back because of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted August 9, 2022 Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 Be wieman for me leads by example Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted August 9, 2022 Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, Oh Louie louie said: Be wieman for me leads by example Too far up the pitch for me. Captain should be in midfield of Centre back. Funny how we all have a different view on this. I'd probably go for Timm Klose. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redandproud Posted August 9, 2022 Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 11 hours ago, Magger1 said: I’ve never liked keepers as captains for me keepers to keep your eye on the ball I don’t understand how you can concentrate on the rest of the game when you’ve got a Marshall box, for me I’d like to see a leader in the middle of the park, for me Bentley don’t have the balls to be captain and there is no leadership from the last third The guy needs to concentrate on his goalkeeping I've said this since he was made captain by NP, I was watching him on Saturday V Sunderland,no shouting at players ,no instructions to the players,we need a outfield player as captain, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBW Posted August 9, 2022 Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 On-pitch captain is overrated in football. Everyone should be commanding shit and communicating anyway so it's a bit irrelevant. Once you're playong the game you don't think "oh he's my captain so I'll listen to his shouts more seriously". You're busy playing to think that. During stoppages, pre-game, half-time is when the captain might do something and at those points what does it matter where the guy plays on the pitch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Watts Posted August 9, 2022 Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 Have to disagree with anyone saying Andi Weimann should be captain as he leads by example. I love the blokes energy, work-rate and recent prowess in front of goal. But a massive bug-bear for me with him is that he doesn't play to the whistle. Ever. He'll be remonstrating with the referee while someone walks past him with the ball with no reaction. He was directly at fault for at least one goal at the Gate last year (I think against Derby) where he just had his arms in the air appealing for handball just outside our area rather than closing down the opponent who was 5 yards in front of him. The pass was made, unchallenged and they scored. Was at it again on Saturday and at Hull. It's his one blot on his copybook but an important one when considering him for captain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted August 9, 2022 Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 Obviously the real reason we've lost our two opening games is because our home kit now has white sleeves and the players get confused by the lack of red sleeves and don't recognise their team mates as a result. (Since everyone else is coming up with nonsensical issues with the team, I thought I'd join in) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted August 9, 2022 Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 I would expect my captain to be the first to remonstrate, with the ref. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Watts Posted August 9, 2022 Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, Oh Louie louie said: I would expect my captain to be the first to remonstrate, with the ref. Not while play goes on and literally past him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted August 9, 2022 Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 He kept us up. I think you will find db made more gaffs, the andi last year. I like to see nakhi wells five yards outside our box, tracking back. To score that many goals from open play and suggest to he doesnt play to the whistle? Seriously? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Watts Posted August 9, 2022 Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 54 minutes ago, Oh Louie louie said: He kept us up. Agreed...but somewhat irrelevant. I think you will find db made more gaffs, the andi last year. Agreed, but somewhat irrelevant. We're talking about captaincy. I like to see nakhi wells five yards outside our box, tracking back. Completely irrelevant To score that many goals from open play and suggest to he doesnt play to the whistle? Seriously? Yes. I would expect someone who is there to lead by example to lead by example....playing to the whistle is the most basic instruction of all. The number of times he just stops when he thinks we should've been given a decision whilst the play goes on is too much. He has been on fire and is in the form of his life, but of course he's not perfect - if he was he wouldn't be playing for us. This is one bug bear of mine where he needs to suck it up and get on with it and have a word with the ref when the ball is dead. Personally, I don't see him as a captain. Just my opinion, but you do make it sound like I can't stand the bloke which isn't even remotely true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted August 9, 2022 Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 Steve, you are talking about 1 mistake. Hes our most consistent and industrious player. Im not making out like you dont like him. Just seems strange you dont want t make him captain, on the basis of appealing for a handball against derby last year. In the grand scheme of things. i think thats irreverent dont you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted August 9, 2022 Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 This thread is called bentley capt. To discuss his gaffs, is far from irreverent. If max would have performed, i gurantee he wouldnt be no 1 after being dropped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted August 9, 2022 Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 Surprised to read that Bentley has finally won a cap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Watts Posted August 9, 2022 Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 3 hours ago, Oh Louie louie said: Steve, you are talking about 1 mistake. Hes our most consistent and industrious player. Im not making out like you dont like him. Just seems strange you dont want t make him captain, on the basis of appealing for a handball against derby last year. In the grand scheme of things. i think thats irreverent dont you? I'm really not talking about one mistake. I provided an example where it directly cost us and also stated that it seems to be a recurring theme. And just to be clear, it wasn't a mistake against Derby - it was negligence! At other times it tends to happen after conceding possession further up the pitch, but by just sitting/standing motionless with his arms up in the air he is taking himself out of the play instead of regrouping to try and put the opposition under pressure after losing possession. This continually happening, regardless of whether it's leading up to a goal or not, is why I wouldn't have him as captain. That and the fact that like others I prefer a captain to be either in defence or midfield. 2 hours ago, Oh Louie louie said: This thread is called bentley capt. To discuss his gaffs, is far from irreverent. If max would have performed, i gurantee he wouldnt be no 1 after being dropped. No, to compare the gaffs with Andi's shortcomings is irrelevant. Mistakes don't make a bad captain, just as being an excellent player like Andi doesn't mean you'll be a good one. Kalas is a full international who has represented his country in World Cups and European Championships, but he was a dreadful captain! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted August 9, 2022 Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 Steve you havent made 1 valid point. You are trying to blame him for goals conceded. Hes a forward mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Watts Posted August 9, 2022 Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 One goal. One. Your obsession with that one comment clearly blinds you to anything else and I have neither the time, the patience or the crayons to make my view any clearer to you, so I'll give up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted August 9, 2022 Report Share Posted August 9, 2022 No steve, you also said quote he was at it again at hull on saturday. You are aware he did his job and scored? Yes i think its best you give up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwicolin Posted August 10, 2022 Report Share Posted August 10, 2022 On 08/08/2022 at 22:07, Better Red said: Not that much choice One of only about 5 players likely to play every game. Kalas (if not sold) Williams (if stays fit) Naismith (if does not keep getting assists for the opposition) Wieman (will play every game) Seymnyo/Scott (will play but to young Give it to Wieman - leads from example with effort. But if you give the capacity to Weimann, would he lose his sharpness on the pitch, while he is thinking about others, and other things on the pitch No Bentley is fine, or Klose would be better. International experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topper 123 Posted August 14, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2022 NEVER A CAPTAIN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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