Dr Balls Posted August 14, 2022 Report Share Posted August 14, 2022 8 minutes ago, Northern Red said: If you want an indicator of the issues there, consider the fact that the back 5 (including keeper) that have started the first 2 games were signed by 5 different managers - De Gea by Ferguson, Dalot by Mourinho, Maguire by Solskjaer, Martinez by Ten Hag and Shaw by Van Gaal. That’s another similarity with us then!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted August 14, 2022 Report Share Posted August 14, 2022 20 hours ago, joe jordans teeth said: Let’s not throw it all at the glazers feet,they have hired good managers who have spunked money up the wall,Sir Alex had run the club down when you look at the players that were left when he packed up The Glazers put commercial success over on-field success, and it's shown ever since they've owned the club. You can't be successful on the pitch when the vision from the top is all wrong. They can appoint as many great managers and sign as many great players as they like, but they won't be successful, as has proven over the past decade. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob k Posted August 14, 2022 Report Share Posted August 14, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Kid in the Riot said: The Glazers put commercial success over on-field success, and it's shown ever since they've owned the club. You can't be successful on the pitch when the vision from the top is all wrong. They can appoint as many great managers and sign as many great players as they like, but they won't be successful, as has proven over the past decade. I watched the game yesterday and had they been say, Forest, I’d be saying they were certain for relegation. It’s as bad a performance I’ve ever seen from that club. And make no mistake, there is no clear fix there, they have huge problems Edited August 14, 2022 by Rob k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted August 14, 2022 Report Share Posted August 14, 2022 3 hours ago, Rob k said: I watched the game yesterday and had they been say, Forest, I’d be saying they were certain for relegation. It’s as bad a performance I’ve ever seen from that club. And make no mistake, there is no clear fix there, they have huge problems Which you absolutely love to see 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2015 Posted August 14, 2022 Report Share Posted August 14, 2022 Actually think they have a good Manager but the players won't listen to him, because some of the ego's there are through the roof, their attitudes are shocking for players who play for that club. They need a huge overhaul from top to bottom which will take years. At least when Liverpool fell from grace they were at least competing, this United lot look a way off and disinterested. Gary Neville is a fine one to talk about poor ownership and backing managers as well when his Salford lot have got rid of 4 in the last few years I'm loving it to be honest, I couldn't stand seeing them win absolutely everything as a kid. They have been well and truly humbled 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted August 15, 2022 Report Share Posted August 15, 2022 I was telling a young man in Weston recently who identified as a Manchester United fan that most of their trophies have been won under two managers but he didn't seem to absorb this. Just looked it up and 56 of their 66 trophies - 85% - were delivered by three managers: Busby, SAF and Ernest Mangnall. They're doing ok really, at the moment, no great disaster, when you look at it like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted August 15, 2022 Report Share Posted August 15, 2022 7 minutes ago, Bristol Oil Services said: I was telling a young man in Weston recently who identified as a Manchester United fan that most of their trophies have been won under two managers but he didn't seem to absorb this. Just looked it up and 56 of their 66 trophies - 85% - were delivered by three managers: Busby, SAF and Ernest Mangnall. They're doing ok really, at the moment, no great disaster, when you look at it like this. We might be FA Cup winners if it wasn't for that last bugger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted August 15, 2022 Report Share Posted August 15, 2022 Said on the radio, their share price has halfed in a year.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted August 15, 2022 Report Share Posted August 15, 2022 4 minutes ago, Oh Louie louie said: Said on the radio, their share price has halfed in a year.. Something the Glazers will care about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozo Posted August 15, 2022 Report Share Posted August 15, 2022 Anyone know of any cheeky stream sites for Prem football? I used Hesgoal last season but they don't do Prem now. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted August 15, 2022 Report Share Posted August 15, 2022 On 13/08/2022 at 22:45, joe jordans teeth said: Let’s not throw it all at the glazers feet,they have hired good managers who have spunked money up the wall,Sir Alex had run the club down when you look at the players that were left when he packed up Doesn't Sir Alex still have alot of influence there, but only takes the credit when things are going ok? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishRed Posted August 15, 2022 Report Share Posted August 15, 2022 Not that I care one jot, but they are in real trouble. The club is totally geared towards commercial success and the financial income of the owners. I think Gary Neville tweeted that the owners took out £24m last month! The new manager wants to play out from the back and as a start point, you don’t have the keeper to do that. I really doubt they will be challenging for many years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hxj Posted August 15, 2022 Report Share Posted August 15, 2022 On 14/08/2022 at 13:19, Oh Louie louie said: Fergie said Jose didn't fit the club. And therein lies the problem. Since he 'retired' all he has done is dabble, whenever is suits him. United should have said 'Thanks, now pi$$ off, and don't come back.' 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTonyTony Posted August 15, 2022 Report Share Posted August 15, 2022 6 minutes ago, Hxj said: And therein lies the problem. Since he 'retired' all he has done is dabble, whenever is suits him. United should have said 'Thanks, now pi$$ off, and don't come back.' If the really think having SAF in the stands is the problem you haven’t been watching Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hxj Posted August 15, 2022 Report Share Posted August 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, TonyTonyTony said: If the really think having SAF in the stands is the problem you haven’t been watching It's not the presence in the stands, but the string pulling behind the scenes which is the problem. He left Man Utd in a mess and then critiques every move of every successor from the Directors' Box. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTonyTony Posted August 15, 2022 Report Share Posted August 15, 2022 3 minutes ago, Hxj said: He left Man Utd in a mess and then critiques every move of every successor from the Directors' Box. He won the league in his last season and has never passed judgement on the managers since him. Very weird analysis Where Man U have gone wrong is crap ownership and shit recruitment. F all to do with SAF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinmans Love Child Posted August 15, 2022 Report Share Posted August 15, 2022 12 minutes ago, Hxj said: It's not the presence in the stands, but the string pulling behind the scenes which is the problem. He left Man Utd in a mess and then critiques every move of every successor from the Directors' Box. Sir Alex didn’t leave them in a mess, he won the league, chose Moyes to succeed him, had a proper handover and had a plan in place to take them forward. The problem came when they sacked Moyes and then ripped up the plan and started chucking money about like confetti on managers and players with no idea what the plan was. They lost all culture and identity within a couple of years, and it will take many many more to turn it around. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hxj Posted August 15, 2022 Report Share Posted August 15, 2022 8 minutes ago, TonyTonyTony said: Where Man U have gone wrong is crap ownership and shit recruitment. F all to do with SAF You might be right as my ex used to say! 8 minutes ago, TonyTonyTony said: He won the league in his last season and has never passed judgement on the managers since him. Very weird analysis Given that my initial response was to a comment about Ferguson criticising José Mourinho ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted August 15, 2022 Report Share Posted August 15, 2022 3 minutes ago, Tinmans Love Child said: Sir Alex didn’t leave them in a mess, he won the league, chose Moyes to succeed him, had a proper handover and had a plan in place to take them forward. The problem came when they sacked Moyes and then ripped up the plan and started chucking money about like confetti on managers and players with no idea what the plan was. They lost all culture and identity within a couple of years, and it will take many many more to turn it around. Absolutely. In some ways, losing David Gill affected them more. The players that Moyes wanted and Woodward only managed to get him Fellani last minute. It went downhill from there really. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted August 15, 2022 Report Share Posted August 15, 2022 3 minutes ago, Tinmans Love Child said: Sir Alex didn’t leave them in a mess, he won the league, chose Moyes to succeed him, had a proper handover and had a plan in place to take them forward. The problem came when their completely entitled fans had a meltdown when they weren’t walking the Premier League , and thus they they sacked Moyes and then ripped up the plan and started chucking money about like confetti on managers and players with no idea what the plan was. They lost all culture and identity within a couple of years, and it will take many many more to turn it around. Slight addition TLC 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted August 15, 2022 Report Share Posted August 15, 2022 Relegation 6 pointer next Monday... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenkibby. Posted August 15, 2022 Report Share Posted August 15, 2022 4 minutes ago, Sheltons Army said: Slight addition TLC True and long may it continue. Still the fans will be happier at this moment with Palace winning. If the score remains the mighty Reds will go above Liverpool with a win Monday. Bless em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted August 15, 2022 Report Share Posted August 15, 2022 1 hour ago, TonyTonyTony said: He won the league in his last season and has never passed judgement on the managers since him. Very weird analysis Where Man U have gone wrong is crap ownership and shit recruitment. F all to do with SAF Ferguson still has some power. He was fundamental in bringing that arrogant tosser Ronaldo back. Looks like a big mistake right now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTonyTony Posted August 15, 2022 Report Share Posted August 15, 2022 11 minutes ago, The Gasbuster said: Ferguson still has some power. He was fundamental in bringing that arrogant tosser Ronaldo back. Looks like a big mistake right now Think the bigger issue are the 10 lazy bastards behind Ronaldo.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maltshoveller Posted August 15, 2022 Report Share Posted August 15, 2022 On 14/08/2022 at 13:19, Oh Louie louie said: Fergie said Jose didn't fit the club. He's probably been the best out a bad bunch since. Nothing bad about Jose record It is simple Utd need to let who ever is manager be in charge and back him 100% Not let the players and thier agents run the show Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheltons Army Posted August 15, 2022 Report Share Posted August 15, 2022 Depressed Liverpool fans on radio saying ’the title race is over’ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyTonyTony Posted August 15, 2022 Report Share Posted August 15, 2022 14 minutes ago, Sheltons Army said: Depressed Liverpool fans on radio saying ’the title race is over’ Radio ? Who listens to Radio anymore ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted August 16, 2022 Report Share Posted August 16, 2022 I do tony,i try to cycle a hour everyday, and i enjoy talk sport, You cant really watch tv doing this. I also never miss saturday 445 radio bristol, wager im not the only one. With the bbc, not doing results lets hope more tune in. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oh Louie louie Posted August 16, 2022 Report Share Posted August 16, 2022 Yes some intresting points about fergie. Moyes, ronaldo coming back, he was at the forefront. Shankly actually took to watching everton, when he left liverpool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonL Posted August 16, 2022 Report Share Posted August 16, 2022 Liverpool fans getting karma for booing the masons anthem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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