bcfc01 Posted August 13, 2022 Report Share Posted August 13, 2022 Maybe a bit soon to discuss, but the Wigan game needs putting to bed. Atkinson looked to hobble off so may not be available, James not available as well, and probably HNM not available, and Kalas isn't match fit. Can Williams and Martin do a Tuesday after a Saturday ? Or save them for Cardiff ? I think Williams should play. NP seems wedded to three at the back with WBs, so: .............................Bentley ...............Vyner Klose Naismith ......Wilson/Tanner Scott Williams Pring ...............................Sykes ..................Weimann Conway Still a reasonable team for this level imo and confident of a win (as I was today tbh). But the squad is looking thin after just three games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrahamC Posted August 13, 2022 Report Share Posted August 13, 2022 Williams won’t start, NP virtually said as much pre match when discussing HNM’s absence. I expect with James out he’ll be a sub but not a starter. Wouldn’t be shocked to see Wells start, whether that is partnering Conway or Martin, who knows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuber Posted August 13, 2022 Report Share Posted August 13, 2022 Expect it may be King and Scott in midfield, so something akin to; Bentley, Vyner, Klose, Naismith, Sykes, Pring, King, Scott, Weimann, Conway Martin? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightyreds89 Posted August 13, 2022 Report Share Posted August 13, 2022 Even after clearing dead wood and several new signings I still think we seem way to reliant on a 3-5-2 we just don’t have the personnel to play a different system I don’t think. Are we good enough to play a 4-4-2 not sure we have a strong 2/partnership at CB or CM to not get overrun which got me thinking about something as close to a 442 that we may get away with…. King shielding back 4, retiming 3 across the middle who could be fluid and Wiemann plying just off the the striker in the hole and dropping back in when needed. Thoughts? Assuming Atkinson OK for Tuesday and Williams won’t play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redandproud Posted August 14, 2022 Report Share Posted August 14, 2022 13 hours ago, bcfc01 said: Maybe a bit soon to discuss, but the Wigan game needs putting to bed. Atkinson looked to hobble off so may not be available, James not available as well, and probably HNM not available, and Kalas isn't match fit. Can Williams and Martin do a Tuesday after a Saturday ? Or save them for Cardiff ? I think Williams should play. NP seems wedded to three at the back with WBs, so: .............................Bentley ...............Vyner Klose Naismith ......Wilson/Tanner Scott Williams Pring ...............................Sykes ..................Weimann Conway Still a reasonable team for this level imo and confident of a win (as I was today tbh). But the squad is looking thin after just three games. And you think he's going to drop CM, I doubt it,but here's hoping, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted August 14, 2022 Report Share Posted August 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, Red-Al said: And you think he's going to drop CM, I doubt it,but here's hoping, I really don’t get all the negativity around Chris Martin. Sure and he’ll agrees that he doesn’t score enough goals as a CF but what he does bring is vast experience and nouse. He bullies defenders, most of whom hate playing against him and he occupies at least one and often two defenders creating space for likes of Weimann and Conway. He also contributes when defending set plays in much the same way Famara did. I think he’s underrated by too many posters on here, 13 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cityboy1954 Posted August 14, 2022 Report Share Posted August 14, 2022 13 hours ago, GrahamC said: Williams won’t start, NP virtually said as much pre match when discussing HNM’s absence. I expect with James out he’ll be a sub but not a starter. Wouldn’t be shocked to see Wells start, whether that is partnering Conway or Martin, who knows? Can only be Martin with Nige he wont leave him out he done jack shit yesterday but he will play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted August 14, 2022 Report Share Posted August 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Cityboy1954 said: Can only be Martin with Nige he wont leave him out he done jack shit yesterday but he will play. Were you there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cityboy1954 Posted August 14, 2022 Report Share Posted August 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Robbored said: Were you there? Yeh he was crap pearson flogging a dead horse . 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted August 14, 2022 Report Share Posted August 14, 2022 Just now, Cityboy1954 said: Yeh he was crap pearson flogging a dead horse . Crap in your eyes…………why do suppose Nige selects him pretty much every match?……. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cityboy1954 Posted August 14, 2022 Report Share Posted August 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Robbored said: Crap in your eyes…………why do suppose Nige selects him pretty much every match?……. Thats my question hes ok as a sub but not for ninety mins time and time again . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted August 14, 2022 Report Share Posted August 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, Cityboy1954 said: Thats my question hes ok as a sub but not for ninety mins time and time again . That’s my question - what does Nige see in Martin that you and his other critics don’t see? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cityboy1954 Posted August 14, 2022 Report Share Posted August 14, 2022 29 minutes ago, Robbored said: That’s my question - what does Nige see in Martin that you and his other critics don’t see? Just listened to the podcast they agree he wasnt playing but Nige likes him hes undropable . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redandproud Posted August 14, 2022 Report Share Posted August 14, 2022 2 hours ago, Robbored said: I really don’t get all the negativity around Chris Martin. Sure and he’ll agrees that he doesn’t score enough goals as a CF but what he does bring is vast experience and nouse. He bullies defenders, most of whom hate playing against him and he occupies at least one and often two defenders creating space for likes of Weimann and Conway. He also contributes when defending set plays in much the same way Famara did. I think he’s underrated by too many posters on here, I was listening to the commentary on RB yesterday,I didn't hear CM name more than twice, as I recall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Balls Posted August 14, 2022 Report Share Posted August 14, 2022 I don’t mind Martin starting up front as he does act as a foil for Weimann, occupying and tiring defenders. However, by 60 minutes he’s usually looking puffed, which is when I would be liking to bring on Wells as a completely different and more pacy opponent for the now somewhat tired defenders to deal with. The fact Nige rarely subs Martin and usually gives Wells less than 5 minutes (including injury time) is the bit that baffles me, especially as we are supposedly a team that prefers to counter attack, which should suit Wells just fine. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted August 14, 2022 Report Share Posted August 14, 2022 Big game for Nige this one. If we lose you will be able to hear the sounds of knives being sharpened 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davefevs Posted August 14, 2022 Report Share Posted August 14, 2022 17 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: Big game for Nige this one. If we lose you will be able to hear the sounds of knives being sharpened Is there a point that when you’ve sharpened a knife so far, it becomes more blunt, or in fact just disappears? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted August 14, 2022 Report Share Posted August 14, 2022 3 hours ago, And Its Smith said: Big game for Nige this one. If we lose you will be able to hear the sounds of knives being sharpened Only by the negative bed wetters who crave instant success. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted August 14, 2022 Report Share Posted August 14, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said: Only by the negative bed wetters who crave instant success. Instant success :laugh:. probably one of the funniest yet deluded posts i have heard in many a long year and believe me I have been here a long time. I'm almost speechless which for me takes some doing that somebody could come on here and criticise fans that have been waiting years if not decades for any kind of "succsess" Edited August 14, 2022 by pillred Spelling 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hertsexile Posted August 14, 2022 Report Share Posted August 14, 2022 I would go with Wells and Conway drop Martin. Wiemman just behind front 2. Pring for Vyner but only Nigel will decide we don’t get a vote. So let’s see what happens an hour before kick off on Tuesday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Oil Services Posted August 14, 2022 Report Share Posted August 14, 2022 19 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said: Only by the negative bed wetters who crave instant success. We're all melts at the moment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossi the Robin Posted August 14, 2022 Report Share Posted August 14, 2022 5 hours ago, Cityboy1954 said: Thats my question hes ok as a sub but not for ninety mins time and time again . With the technology we have nowadays, the stats would suggest he is fit and doing enough for 90 mins We aren’t using him properly, and not playing the right balls forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted August 14, 2022 Report Share Posted August 14, 2022 4 hours ago, Davefevs said: Is there a point that when you’ve sharpened a knife so far, it becomes more blunt, or in fact just disappears? My sharpener is still in the drawer. He’s got till Xmas unless we start becoming adrift at the bottom to show that he can (a) get a team defending well and (b) get his team performing more consistently on the whole. I know you are big fan of Nige but even you have admitted to being surprised at the start to the season (I’m paraphrasing). Will certainly be interesting to see the end of the transfer window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted August 14, 2022 Report Share Posted August 14, 2022 2 hours ago, pillred said: Instant success :laugh:. probably one of the funniest yet deluded posts i have heard in many a long year and believe me I have been here a long time. I'm almost speechless which for me takes some doing that somebody could come on here and criticise fans that have been waiting years if not decades for any kind of "succsess" In the past 7 years we have won a league and cup double, been to a major Semi Final, produced an England European Cup winner and maintained one of our longest spells in the second tier of English football. That is a pretty successful cycle for a club of our stature. If by Success you mean playing in the top flight, don't hold your breath the last gap was 65 years, this one is 42 and counting. I would love to know what your idea of success is ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Watts Posted August 14, 2022 Report Share Posted August 14, 2022 Williams being rested surely depends on how bad Scott's back is. Haven't spotted an update on his injury yet.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loosey Boy Posted August 14, 2022 Report Share Posted August 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, Steve Watts said: Williams being rested surely depends on how bad Scott's back is. Haven't spotted an update on his injury yet.... And whether HNM is able to play…. Midfield looking very light all of a sudden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillred Posted August 14, 2022 Report Share Posted August 14, 2022 3 hours ago, Sir Geoff said: In the past 7 years we have won a league and cup double, been to a major Semi Final, produced an England European Cup winner and maintained one of our longest spells in the second tier of English football. That is a pretty successful cycle for a club of our stature. If by Success you mean playing in the top flight, don't hold your breath the last gap was 65 years, this one is 42 and counting. I would love to know what your idea of success is ? Do you mean winning what is in effect the 3rd division title and a cup competition that is restricted to the bottom two divisions? yes the League cup semi was a nice surprise I'm sorry but in my opinion we have massively under performed compared to too many clubs to mention and asking for instant success, well being more competitive in the division we currently find ourselves in would do for a start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke_bristol Posted August 14, 2022 Report Share Posted August 14, 2022 4 hours ago, Sir Geoff said: In the past 7 years we have won a league and cup double, been to a major Semi Final, produced an England European Cup winner and maintained one of our longest spells in the second tier of English football. That is a pretty successful cycle for a club of our stature. If by Success you mean playing in the top flight, don't hold your breath the last gap was 65 years, this one is 42 and counting. I would love to know what your idea of success is ? If the club insist on charging premier league prices, despite repeated calls from supporters for some cheaper tickets, then some signs of progress towards at least a PO challenge isn’t unreasonable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted August 15, 2022 Report Share Posted August 15, 2022 6 hours ago, luke_bristol said: If the club insist on charging premier league prices, despite repeated calls from supporters for some cheaper tickets, then some signs of progress towards at least a PO challenge isn’t unreasonable. £12.50 tickets available last week. How cheap do you want them to be ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Geoff Posted August 15, 2022 Report Share Posted August 15, 2022 7 hours ago, pillred said: Do you mean winning what is in effect the 3rd division title and a cup competition that is restricted to the bottom two divisions? yes the League cup semi was a nice surprise I'm sorry but in my opinion we have massively under performed compared to too many clubs to mention and asking for instant success, well being more competitive in the division we currently find ourselves in would do for a start. A few years ago we finished 8th so by your own measure we have been successful recently and you have therefore not had to wait years or even decades for 'success.' We would all like to see better football and a push for the playoffs but to say we have had no ' success' for decades is nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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