Fuber

What exactly has Bakinson done to deserve coming on? - A Player who, for me, is simply not mobile enough for Nige's system imo - would not shock me if he's loaned out or sold in Jan. Same with Palmer, O'Dowda, among others, who simply not good enough and/or do not suit the system. We're a complete kerfuffle of players suiting different systems and some over paid wasters on the books. Looking at O'Dowda, Moore, Bakinson, Wells among others. Too many 'nice' guys and poor body language. If someone had offered me mid table before this season I'd have snapped their hand off. Ultimately we need, as you say, a couple of wingers and a forward. The issue is, where are the funds going to come from? Unfortunately, I can only see it coming from a sale, and the only players we have worth a couple quid are Massengo and Bentley. @Davefevs we know SL was looking for external investment. Hypothetically is this were to come in (he prays), how does that impact FFP if at all? Shout out to Scott Parker also. Improvement of that Bournemouth team compared to Woodgate's lot last season was stark. Comprehensive classy performance that you can only applaud, albeit we didn't offer staunchest resistance.

Think in general the issue is that we're very reliant on a ball playing centre half to play us up the pitch to create an overload. We have too many players who simply cannot carry the ball up the pitch reliably - O'Dowda is one of the only few that can. Wells, Martin Weimann, James - none of them are going to beat a man. The second we started the game without Atkinson added to Williams getting injured, with no Massengo available as cover, it was game over. Shame Nagy left as with Massengo and Williams injured he'd be the perfect player to replace or play alongside but that ship has long sailed - issue is nobody else aside from those two really has the legs to cover the same ground. 'Muff were likely the best team I've seen down AG since Norwich, easily. Very organised, physical, fast, and great interchange down the channels each time they came forward to isolate our full back and get a run our centre backs. Either way, major aim for January looks to be getting a winger and forward in, whether that's loan etc. Do we know what's happening with Sam Pearson?

Comes down to his body and pure chance. Can't blame a player for injuries to an extent. Webster had a string at Ipswich before joining us and clicked. Can happen.

This. Id actually argue that his driving runs were the only time we looked at all like creating anything. Biggest issue today was how good Bournemouth were. They will be top of the league and for good reason. Parker has them well sorted.

Missed a T on his surname as well.

Just to add to my previous point is simply that the both are true. All firms would need to be come to some sort of agreement. It comes down to basic perception. The issue is again. Is that when I mention the Cardiff fan, is that, if this was AG, the roles could easily be inversed. It's not the firms themselves that are the issue (for some part), the issue is that's there's a sub element within all who use the cover of the firm to perform the acts that are then perceived as wrongs - and the remaining element of sub firms simply don't know how to manage said situation. It's simply the naivety of both sides of the argument that I am trying to highlight. Apologies if I've failed at that - I'm pretty wasted currently in the sunny Canaries.

To add, just because we stop doesn't mean other clubs likewise will. Theres 22 other clubs in the league.

I agree with your point. But it's a self fulfilling cycle. It's an inverse.

This is a naive statement. There is always an element of this in basic society. Not expecting it in virtue as there are no 'firms'...? Football tend to be a basic reflection of the culture of the football team in question. Firms always exist, as, unfortunately, there is an element at all clubs that engage in violence. As for 'innocent fans'. I went to Cardiff and there was one incident where random 'Diff fan tried lobbing tools, i.e. wrenches at City fans. CSF members tackled him down and handed him over to the Heddlu. Said tools could have cause serious harm (to innocents) and the Cardiff youth specified may have no criminal record, but he would be termed an 'innocent', i.e. no prev record. By the media. Always depends on context.

I'd point out all comments towards Newcastle on this thread are from our (Championship/BCFC) perspective. In the same manner of us in regards to Ipswich relating to Ashton re the Tractor Boys view of us. All we know for certain is that the Geordies likely know more about the ins and outs than any of us here, and all have been protesting Ashley's ownership for some degree for almost ten years at this point. Re the point about servicing the Debt. Any debt would have to settle upon transaction of ownership, so either way Ashley's met his end goal. Profit. As for interest, he paid near no Sponsorship fees re Sports Direct for years with regards to stadium advertisements, bar the recent years a counts which still way below the promised value. I'd count that as service of the interest.

They made profits in 8 of the past 11 seasons, the latter most loss due to COVID. I'd argue if a club is looking to progress, there should be an overall net spend in roughly half season over said time period. Ashley has simply pocketed the profits in the same manner Glazers rack up Man Utd as a debt pinata. Add to that in 2015 and 2019 Newcastle had the 19th highest revenue of any club listed in Deloittes Rich List (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.skysports.com/amp/football/news/11678/11615548/newcastle-rank-19th-in-deloitte-money-league) Much more Money could've been spent to at least give them a competitive spine that could see them easily into the top half. Their fans aren't asking Ashley to spend personal fortune but just to reinvest profits.

I actually found Villa fans to be many times more unbearable. Found the Geordies to be much more realist and down to earth while they were down here. Think the majority are just relieved to be rid of Ashley. Who never really had any plans for the club.

In my experience, Antifa may claim to be anti-fascists, but for the most part they're simply anti establishment. They're as bad if not worse than the 'fascists' they claim to be against. It's simply two sides of a coin. Different being that Antifa (and the far left general) have a tendency to claim anything that doesn't align with their own view as right wing or fascist. I.e. the damage to Bristol Police Station during the Kill the Bill protest.

Tbf they do clearly state reasoning within the article. They make it clear it was elements outside of BLM i.e. Antifa who could use the ruckus for their own agenda. Such as a Cenotaph. As well as the events in London where the Cenotaph was targeted.

Undoubtedly. Same as Bournemouth, etc. Alternatively, even if we had stayed in the Championship until the 13/14 campaign. We would have also failed it (£11m loss vs £8m target). Forest, Hull, Ipswich, Leeds, Boro. All also failed it. In total 8-9 clubs failed it. I'd argue, however that when you look at their spending between 2012-14, does it strike you as really spending to get where they needed to be? Net spend was only £3m. They were already cutting said spending if they failed. Failing FFP depends on the context, up to 2016 it was a bit of a non entity. No real punishment whereas compared to now i.e. Villa (if relegated), Birmingham, Sheff Wed, Derby, Reading.

To be fair - their owners have done a fair bit in the local community. Re the Super League, I got the feeling that it was American Execs that were overall to blame for that fiasco, i.e. Bruce Buck at Chelsea. Leicester show how it should be done. Overall material wealth means nothing unless used strategically.

Large majority of us are Bristolian or from Somerset. Glass Houses much?

This. Issue is just that his acceleration is non-existent.

Feel posts are being slightly harsh on O'Dowda here. When was his last competitive match? - for me was one of few positive regarding player performances last season. Bakinson doesn't have the same excuse, he's looked static in every match played this season, namely due ball watching and poor mobility. Players should be given a clean slate to some extent now we actually seem to have a competent manager.

middle 8 Dan. Re-read Fevs post. If he'd suggested top 8, I'd have just quoted him and posted this:

Could understand him not starting as likely not fully match fit. Think this system needs two mobile but strong midfielders in the double pivot. I don't see Baks suiting this system if I'm being honest. That aside. 100% JW changed the game when he came on. Simply quicker on the deck and combative when he had to be which we were lacking. Cemented his name on the teamsheet as it stands for next match if Han is out still.

And I didn't. We weren't the only club he yeeted out of after all. Snakes and Ladders.

More than any other manager we've previously appointed. Even Coppell.

Mostly the latter. Like Martin, but a countering system doesn't suit him nor Wells. Can see the likes of Conway and Bell having roles to play if Nige can get them up to speed.

They were this shit under LJ. There's a reason we were near bottom of the XG table for his final two seasons at the helm. We just happened to be clinical. Last 12 months the last of the confidence went to shite under an inexperienced manager and here we are. Simple.