cider_dog

On 15/01/2016 at 11:21, cynic said:

I would think that half of those on that list would be well out of reach !

I don't really care who it is personally as we're back to square one and, given time, I'm resigned to the probable fact that we'll be there again.

So I'll just accept who it is and go along with it as per usual.

More than half.

Surprised Mourihno wasn't included.

Unless a boatload of money is added the pile, Pearson will likely get the nod.

And he is crap, why he gets credit for Leicester having a great season is beyond me.

The guy is a bit like Cotterill, effective to a point at a given level...but limited when the level increases.

Maybe, but he still smells like bigfoots dick!

We were extremely shit not to say boring as **** as you know! under O'Driscoll, who is a good coach but not an inspirational leader and manager. We have improved results wise 55% under Cotterill which is as good an improvement as we could have expected.

 

 

Well mate Burnley fans in the main like and respect Cotterill, Notts County and Cheltenham could hardly say anything other than he's a good manager, and on the thread I highlighted the majority of Forest fans likewise.

 

A Bristol City fan asked Forest what they think of Cotterill. Are they, given our history with them, going to:

 

a) "congratulations Bristol we really like you lot and you've got a great manager" OR

b) take the opportunity to have a pop

 

and even if the entire country especially Forest hate him, as you have said is the case Will, which I've proved is not the case, does that mean we have to too, while he is OUR manager?

 

Oi Cotterill we are Bristol City fans we don't have your sort here we like our managers to be MENSA members so **** off you thick wide boy.

 

Yes that's really pulling together congratulations everyone involved in that, sorry but I really don't get that mentality.

 

I'm not saying Cotterill is a great manager, I really don't know. But he seems to be respected as being an honest hard working type capable of getting more out of teams than is expected, who says odd things sometimes - so what, don't we all.

 

And he is OUR manager!

"We have improved results wise 55% under Cotterill which is as good an improvement as we could have expected."

Steve should change his Blue Stratos cologne for some 'Sex Panther' by Odeon, 60% of the time it works...every time.

And it's made with bits of real Panther.

See what i did there?

Listening to SOD orate was like sipping a fine  wine. La Crema Chardonnay (perhaps 2007 vintage?) would be appropriate.  So what if it's light citrus flavors were accented by hints of red pepper emotion (arm waving). The long and strong finish accented the oak flavors. It definitely lived up to its La Crema cliche, as the flavor of cream shined through. I could almost detect a hint of saffron spiced joviality in his reflections , but certainly the words that I drank were not worth slowing down my reflexes. But that was the beauty of this gifted conversationalist, he was a decent 'glass' to have after work, or with some mild cheese. Small berries with firm acidity. Lively citrus, subtle toasted oak, butterscotch, yellow apple, bright orange. Lovely vibrancy. Not a man for the 'stupid question.'

Listening to SC is like necking a warm can of Tenants super, sticking your head in a dustbin and asking your kids to hit it with a cricket bat, in the rain, on a Monday.

Not "spinning statistics". Facts are facts. The facts are SC's record is better than SOD's. Anything else is opinion. I'm not expressing opinion, just facts.

 

 

Not sure your desert island analogy is a fact, though judging by 20 passes strung along the back followed by a 50 yard punt from a centre half, I suspect he would indeed have studied the tide for several months and built a raft - and then swum straight into the sharks.

Pro-rata facts presumably

Full marks for perseverance but wrong again.

 

SC has 17 points from 14 games which pro rata is 56 over a full season and comfortably enough to stay up.

 

Unfortunately he is still clawing us away from the position he inherited, unless you think he is somehow to blame for SOD's record which incidentally was a pro rata equivalent of 36 points and relegation by a country mile.

 

Or to put it another way, SC accumulates 55% more points per game than SOD.

 

Other than the "we would have won a game eventually" argument, I fail to see how anyone can criticize SC yet defend SOD.

You should be a UKIP politician spinning those statistics to fit your argument.

How many Romanian immigrants are really flooding into the UK? (on a 'pro rata' basis of course).

We were in the shite with SOD but I saw some room for being optimistic over the longer term, with SC we are still in the shite, just less reasons to be confident.

If you were trapped on a desert island would you rather be stuck with SOD or SC?

SOD would probably want to study the tide patterns for a few months, design a decent raft, source materials and supplies and make a calculated risk at survival on the high seas.

SC would tell you to drink your own wee and swim for it, telling you that sharks are not really dangerous and that Tom Hanks made it to safety in that film so you should be OK...

No, he was asked which English coaches he admired.

 

There is a difference, and SOD may well be a good coach, but demonstrated that for us he was not a good manager.

 

 

It should also be said that earlier in the interview Rogers also mentioned Harry Redknapp as somebody he greatly admired as a manager.

Semantics.

Brendan Rogers was interviewed last night on talksport.

He was asked which English managers he admired.

First name he mentioned?

SOD.

Did he mention SC? I hear you ask...

No, he did not.

Why?

Because SC is not a considered, tactically minded manager who build success with a long term strategic vision.

SC flies in on a waft of cheap cologne, held up by strong hold hair gel and a firm jaw, clenched fists and a call to arms.

 I am not an expert on football management, neither (believe it or not) are 99.9% of the posters on OTIB.

But Brendan Rogers IS.

And no I am not a Liverpool fan either.

He IS a winner.

3.5 year contract for a lower league journeyman manager.

That's like winning the lottery.

Sad thing is, with all that cash all he will do is buy a bigger gold necklace and more hair gel.

We deserve better, but life is seldom fair...

'I'm a winner'

Thanks Steve.

Our standout player today, and against Tranmere, and was superb against Orient.

Get off his back for **** sake

A 'stand out player' in a 3-0 defeat...

He is a busted flush, like most of the crud bought by SC.

The bloke was one of the numerous problems here at the Gate. I have no sympathy for him, his dour personality and downbeat negativity got on an awful lot of city fans tits.....

Another on of the numerous problems would appear to be SC whose knuckle headed honesty and misplaced optimism got on an awful lot of city fans tits.... 

I didn't expect a win, but that doesn't make those stats any less disappointing.

 

Question is playmates, what's the [short-term] answer?

 

I've not been overly impressed by Wade Elliott, but one poster said he was playing well first half. 

If Wade Elliott is the 'answer' then are truly doomed.

Penalty SU    

Cotterill is a cave man trying to build a space ship.

He really is hopeless.

Oh give over. SoD was statistically the worst manager we've ever had. We were best rid of him

It is so much better now, right?

Steve Cotterill is clueless.........didnt we all know this before he came here?

Errrrr, I did have an inkling he might be shite. 

But in typical BCFC heart over head bravado gave him the benefit of the doubt.

But in the final analysis he probably is shite.

Our home form as of the last 4 games. WWDW.

 

Sigh...

You are right!

We are pretty solid at home currently.

AG is a veritable fortress.

Sigh...

I have seen nothing to suggest we are good enough to escape another relegation.

Just saying like...

cotteril 3 games in charge, 1 point #FACT

/irony

Its the 'New Manager syndrome'!

Only in reverse...

Thanks Mr Chairman.

Myself, personally, "I've never met a nice South Afrikaan."

Winne Mandela?

She even had her own football team...

"I think he's a hilarious bloke - a real character and one of the few true Bristolian who's ever made it to any level of achievement in any walk of life. "

I was having a bad day until i read this nugget!

Pure comedy gold.

It is a strange decision indeed.

Arrived at (IMO) by the following factors in no specific order of significance;

1) Results

2) Anti SOD Brigade (minority) pressure

3) SOD's lack of charisma or 'passion' (irrelevant)

4) The board's lack of testes

5) Lee Johnson

6) A 'preferred choice' availability window closing fast

Time for the cliches to roll - 'Galvanise' 'Passion' 'Dogfight' 'Every game is a cup final' 'stability' 'confidence back' 'give the fans something to cheer about'

JL said in his interview it was largely down to results, which in reality were improving.

So there is something deeper at work, I think a personality clash (SOD with the board) and our boo boys were the final nail.

This season is a write off, we will likely just survive with a new manager, but would have done under SOD anyway.

SO what is the benefit of sacking him?