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I've said this many times but with the way retail currently is and the emphasis on smaller convenience stores rather than larger stores I can see Sainsburys pulling out of this. On that thread they seem to think Sainsburys would be in favour of this store rather than in a back water town. I'm not so sure as they have a store a mile down Filton Avenue already so in this case a back water town would take preference.

Now NLBR are no longer a lesgue club there is no need for them to move. They already have a stadium that is fit for Conference football, it will be one of the better stadiums in the conference. They do not have the finance in place to cover the shortfall in funding and I can see them and Sainsburys making a mutual agreement to terminate the contract.

Can anyone tell me if the remaining 50 percent was sold for 2 million instead of 10k would the rugby club still have had the same problems? The biggest problem to me seems to be Holmes? As owner of the rugby club of course he also oened the ground but to me it seems he stole the ground from the rugby club to get his money back and was then made a president at the sags. Ok maybe legally correct but morally wrong.

Get a room with a Gashead? You must be kidding, I'd be homeless in no time at all.

Haha what would happen is you would own that room then when your struggling financially they will stealbhalf of it but when your problems get worse they will steal the other half of your room for peanuts.any items of any value in your room they will also sell.

The rugby club invited us to be tenants because they needed the money. They would have gone into administration and lost the ground whether Rovers were there or not. In 1982 an offer was made for Ashton Gate to the receivers by a member of the Rovers board. The offer was rejected by the receivers and one from the new board of the reformed club accepted. I wouldn't have thought that making an offer for a football ground when you don't own one of your own was particularly reprehensible. Certainly no worse than leaving unpaid debts and torn up contracts.

I do hope you have some facts to back up your comments about housing money and transfer income. If you are suggesting that he did anything illegal, Mr Dunford does have form for involving solicitors.

hahaha threatening me with solicitors oh dear how sad. Just going by what your own fans have said.

Let's cut the crap, the rugby club were in trouble and you took advantage of that to gain ownership of the site. Didn't you also try and do the same to us in 82? So you have form for it. Dunford then pocketed the money from the housing. Remember around the same time you sold some players for high value and Dunford put that into his bank account also.

Rich, on 03 Apr 2014 - 12:33 AM, said:

Ok , ive done my best to source the facts and figures of deal done to sell the training ground land , and the sale of the mem ... i cant find a thing,

i, ll endevour to find out but doesnt seem alot on the net

AS previously stated ... nobody forced BRistol RFC to sell anything , the entered a deal that both parties accepted , when rovers took sole ownership of the mem the training ground had already been sold (im unaware as to if it was before the 50/50 deal , but was aroound that time)

if this is untrue please feel free to furnish me with proof and links to that proof? i genuinely am going buy how i remember it but life was hazy between the late 80,s and 2005 for me

Not forced but they hardly had a choice did they? Sell the ground and remain tennents or go bust. I'm just annoyed that you picked up the ground for peanuts and now you are selling it for 20 odd million. It's dirty money in my book as you stole the ground. You may remember what you did with Bris you also tried doing with us in 82! Your club is a rotten club and will steal and cheat as it suits you. Remember before the 2nd leg where you called a game off on the saturday, despite the rain you failed to cover up the pitch and in fact you even had the sprinklers on the pitch! Cheats!

God someone got out of bed the wrong side this morning! Touched a nerve have I? Anyways you still havn't answered my question, Have you swapped the naming rights for 125 years for a lease of the land for 125 years? Estimates I've read on here value the land at 8 million, spread over 125 years that's 64k a year roughly and you wont ever see a penny of that.

You think it will be an improvement but if I was you I would rather stay at the memorial ground. Good location with Glos Road nearby, a traditional stadium where you can stand and the pasties as top notch.

Unfortunatly your new stadium will be completely stripped down and built on the cheap and will be a souless bowl and once again you wont even own it! You didn't answer my previous question about the naming rights, to me it looks as if you have swapped the naming rights for 125 years for a lease on the land for 125 years. You got a bum deal there if that's the case. I'm sure UWE will also enjoy the free teaching space on offer that you wont make a penny on!

Deluded ... it dont drive my friend i walk all up roiound there 3/4 times a week there are cycle paths and footpaths from bonnington walk/landseer ave, bridge over from northville cycle path from Frenchay and the walk from abbeywood retail park (the maccy d's u mention is 5 mins tops... try going and looking instaed of using google maps as that map is well out of date the access is much improved and will be even more so when chiswick village is complete, you talk of roads being clogged up!! its a football stadium if course it will be , 5- 10k people all leaving an area at once causes this, bedminster is a nightmare on City matchdays, as are most areas arounf football stadiums ... i dont expect you to look for anything other than negatives , but kepp em coming , the fact is this will be a massive improvement on Eastville , Twerton and The Mem

5 minutes maybe if there was a direct path in a straight line. Tell you what next time your on one of your power walks you video it and put it on youtube, then we will know who is right but you wont do that cos you know your wrong.

The point is the area is congested enough, adding a football stadium into it is just madness imo.

Unlike your stadium a lot of City fans do live close by to the ground. This traffic you mention in Bemmy is a myth. I can easily leave the ground at the final whistle walk 5 mins to my car and then be on the portway within 5 mins. Yes there is traffic but it's hardly ever gridlock apart from maybe a sell out but around by our ground there is plenty of places to grab a drink and food etc so the fans arriving is more staggard than it will be at yours.

Sure your right about the walking distances, this could go two ways, if there are sufficient bars in the new ground then the match day income could be greatly increased, insufficient parking and poor bus routes could have a detrimental effect on attendances.

There's always the student union bar, and UWE may jump on the chance to provide drinking facilities.

For away fans there are the facilities inside the ground or nothing.

Visitors arriving by car from the motorway will see nothing of our fair city.

Call me a tradionalist but I would much rather have a pint in the lions etc than drink at a football stadium.

For away fans it will be a dump of a stadium to visit, if you come to AG you can get off the train at BTM and enjoy our City as we are only a few miles down the road from the centre, that always adds a few onto away support at the gate, they wont get that at UWE as there is nothing around there of any interest.

Personally i'm dreading evening games. Being realistic the sags are likely to get around 10k a game, the ring road around by the MOD is a nightmare anyways in the evenings so it's going to be even worse when they have an evening game especially considering the stadium is out of walking distance and poor public transport.

Only one pub within ten minutes walk of the new ground mentioned there. The train station is further away than Parson street is to AG and very few use that. So I estimate that there will be an awful lot of congestion, a lot of people with long walks and a very sanitised type of football experience to be had by Rovers supporters compared to recent years of attending the Rugby ground. I imagine the South Glos Bowl, to be somewhat like MK, the Ricoh or Reading but smaller.

That's the reality of it. Maps can be deceiving. Out of interest on the training ground at the memorial ground there also used to be a car park, it has always baffled me that instead of building houses there they could have easily fitted a new stadium there so why didn't they?

the Bulldog, foxden, goldon bottle, new pub in chiswick village , (the gainsbrough poss re opening as well as the king george, so a few options less than 10mins walk for a drink plus huge bar at the stadium, direct rail link at abbeywood, just off the m32 on the ring rd within walking distance of filton, frenchay, northville, lockleaze, horfield .... a bizarre location? hardly

And by leve lplaying field , i mean a stadium with proper facilities and a chance of off field revenue

With the greatest respect I can tell you right now none of those pubs are a ten minute walk away. It may look close on a map but I can assure you I have lived in this area all my life, I have walked thise streets near your stadium many times and none of what you mention is within ten minutes walk. I admit I havn't seen any plans but as it is there is only the cycle path which is a bugger and is massive. The king george is miles away from your stadium, it would be an almost half hour walk.

Abbeywood again is at least a 15 minute walk, the problem is you have to walk all the way around the MOD and then over the ramps etc. Frenchey withjn walking distance? Haha yea ok. Even Horfield is pushing it for walking distance and that is onky if you live in the bit close to the stadium, upper horfield and no chance of walking it within a reasonable time same for Filton. Lockleaze you may be able to walk from but only if they open up a path to the stadium by Rodney Road but again you live in the lower part of Lockleaze and it aint gonna be a walk you would likr to do too often.

You keeo telling yourself it's in a brilliant location, typical sag. Truth is it's stuck behind UWE and the MOD, access is very very poor, the ring road is rammed with traffic as it is. None of the pubs you mention are wuthin walking distance. Even Mcdonalds Nandos etc is a 20 minute walk away. Stop looking at the maps and go and walk the routes then try coming on here telling me all the pubs and places are within a ten minute walk. Your deluded.

ive heard of some scaling back on the extras till after the ground is open and the 3 sides thing i heard was possible if the appeal went on for another 6 months or more....

as for the post above about giving the rugby club there ground back... they will have left and gone and if a covenant was going to be found i believe it would be already found , the rugby chairman at the time tried to sell the whole lot to Amtrak and then sold half the 'memorial ground land' for housing ... nobody kicked up a fuss then funnily enough!!

im all for the mem staying as a rugby ground if someone wants to pay what sainsburys are offering ... i believe the rugby club have a very wealthy owner who earnt enough in a few hrs last week to buy it for the rugby club if it is that important to Bristol Rugby?

The fact is it suits Rovers to move , Its suits SL and Bristol Rugby to play at Ashton Gate ... a memorail garden and the gates will remain an important place , its sadly a fact of life that things move on , it would be lovely if somethings didnt like the Mem , but lets get realistic here money rules the world and some need to face it that some on here who claim to care so much about the Memorial Ground disrespect the very place by calling it the Minimal ect ... the arguments abut how rovers aquired the stadium ect have been done .. Rovers own it its theres to sell

You really do have a cheek don't you? The rugby club can have it back if they pay what Sainsburys are offering? So why the hwll didn't you pay the rugby club the same? You stole it and took advantage of their plight at the time. The money you get from the sale will be dirty money money, I hope because of that UWE will be cursed. As for the rest of your story that's complete crap. We been over it many times on here in the past and it's proven your version of events is incorrect. Isn't the former rugby owner now a president or something at your club?

Can you confirm if the naming rights is a direct swap for a 125 year lease? So you get a lease for 125 years and they get naminf rights for 125 years?

Something else I found out, UWE will still own the freehold on the ground with Roverzzz taking on an approximate 100 year lease, so you're still rent boys ;-)

I'm guessing this has been done so that UWE will aquire ownership of the stadium if Rovers were to go bust etc?

Still think it's an odd place for a stadium. Inbetween the mod and uwe.

Plea to all football fans - VOTE !!

At any election, local or national, VOTE!!!

Who for? Anybody but the Greens. They hate football and its fans, and they do their utmost to prevent any stadium developments anywhere. Apart from them, it's your choice but, if you love football, kick out the Greens.

Rovers and football is not a combination of words often used so in this situation I am baffled who to vote for.

Tesco. That is all.

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Roverzzz will receive ALL non-matchday revenue from the UWE stadium.

How much you can actually make out of impoverished students on pound-a-pint nights is another matter...

The stadium will have a shit load of new housing (Cheswick Village) on its doorstep though so one assumes theyll be other opportunities...

Apart from the teaching space.

Considering Dunford used to milk money out of them then I wouldn't be surprised if Higgs did the same.