Fredford89

I remember when Nigel Pearson finally unburdened us from David Bentley there was a lot of doubt over this lad’s capabilities, I think over the season it would be fair to say Goalkeeper is the last position we need to be looking at when it comes to transfer priorities! Another great performance 

39 minutes ago, The Original OTIB said:

Out of interest, Fred, prior to thursday last, where were you mainly venting your opinions about BCFC online? Are those platforms strongly moderated?

Mainly on BBC on match reports I regularly get in to discussions about the games and never get banned always been an observer of this forum

8 minutes ago, Rossi the Robin said:

You aren’t a new user though, you just have another name (again)

Well i don’t 

1 hour ago, exAtyeoMax said:

It’s a safety issue. Certain new posters try to bully and intimidate existing members, that’s not a free speech issue, certainly in the way Orwell intended it. 

Kind of the other way round it appears you are bullying new users the irony “are we the baddies” ?

52 minutes ago, BrizzleRed said:

Absolutely this.  

I detest cancel culture and totally believe everyone should have a right to express their views, whether popular on not.

That’s a very different thing to tossers who keep reappearing on here under a variety of different names, with the sole purpose of winding people up and trying to ruin what is a great forum. 

Maybe they get a twisted satisfaction that they’ve achieved something, but it detracts from many more peoples enjoyment of this board.
 

If an opinion winds you up that’s your issue I’m afraid and again I don’t know who you think I am but you sound crazy 

59 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Did you read Phantom’s reply, have you read the forum roles about accounts / multiple accounts?

I’m trying to help solve a problem of a person who has been banned over a dozen times and turns this brilliant forum into a something less than brilliant.

There is no irony whatsoever!

But if that’s what you think, fine.

I can only imagine you are speaking about myself based on your hostile replies on my first post, I’m not sure who you think I am but I’m very confused about your reaction to an opinion, is this not an open forum?very childish on your part and irrational making up lies about people to get them banned?

14 hours ago, Davefevs said:

Usual tactic, two accounts operating together.  Got have time to switch devices / logins, switch on ip blocking, etc

what a w@nchor

The post was supposed to be positive and what are you talking about 

47 minutes ago, Robbored said:

 

“RR gets a lot of stick but to be fair I thought it was common knowledge that players were unhappy with the nepotism - LJ played ahead of Skuse, Noble and even Hartley FFS - and ultimately isn't that what led to the half time incident at Plymouth?

The family corner shop comparison isn't unfair either, apart from the huge controversy caused with his son, and a brother as chief scout, I was told by an academy coach at the time that GJ wanted to bring anotherbrother in, who at the time was managing the equivalent of a Somerest county league team.”

Thanks Nick

All  some posters saw under GJ was results and that’s a stick that they used to devalue my opinion of him. What most didn’t see was his man management which led ultimately to his dismissal after the brawl at half time at Home Park when senior players went to SL and refused to play under GJ any longer.

Lead by Paul Hartley and a bunch of egotistical unprofessional players, the only justification for players refusing to play for a manager is if he is racist, homophobic otherwise they should ask for a transfer and continue to play when called upon by the club and fans that pay their wages! Gary proved he was good enough the players failed to

33 minutes ago, NickJ said:

To be fair Will, I don't think Trundle has any regrets, he enjoyed his career in his own way.

Not sure that Trundle said he was wrong, unless I missed any of it he said GJ's man management of a certain type of player - Trundle, Noble - was awful, but fair play to him he got results.

 

RR gets a lot of stick but to be fair I thought it was common knowledge that players were unhappy with the nepotism - LJ played ahead of Skuse, Noble and even Hartley FFS - and ultimately isn't that what led to the half time incident at Plymouth?

The family corner shop comparison isn't unfair either, apart from the huge controversy caused with his son, and a brother as chief scout, I was told by an academy coach at the time that GJ wanted to bring another brother in, who at the time was managing the equivalent of a Somerest county league team.

 

As manifested by he Plymouth incident?

 

Dont get me wrong Mr/Mrs Johnson, I hugely enjoyed Gary's time here despite my frustration with the LJ situation, but I also went to every game that season, home and away, with the exception of Burnley away as I was abroad, and in general we didn't take risks, quite the opposite. Nevertheless I agree it was an enjoyable season, simply due to the success. But to suggest the Cotterill season wasn't that enjoyable, that's just plain daft, did you actually go to any games while he was manager?!

In my opinion, Gary probably sacrificed his own career in order to give his son one, and as a father I can understand that although not condone it. Lansdown should have dealt with that for the benefit of all except of course LJ, but in hindsight now it's fairly obvious why he didn't.

Didn’t take risks but ended up in top 2 please go back and watch some highlights of that season your completely wrong, you seem to be a statistic merchant rather than someone who attended games, we were brave on the ball and tried to win every game, our best players and the core of our team was dissembled , Carey old age , Orr, Basso, Elliott injuries , we essentially had to replace all of our quality which Gary found hard to do at the level… The style of play and competitiveness can not be questioned 

29 minutes ago, NickJ said:

To be fair Will, I don't think Trundle has any regrets, he enjoyed his career in his own way.

Not sure that Trundle said he was wrong, unless I missed any of it he said GJ's man management of a certain type of player - Trundle, Noble - was awful, but fair play to him he got results.

 

RR gets a lot of stick but to be fair I thought it was common knowledge that players were unhappy with the nepotism - LJ played ahead of Skuse, Noble and even Hartley FFS - and ultimately isn't that what led to the half time incident at Plymouth?

The family corner shop comparison isn't unfair either, apart from the huge controversy caused with his son, and a brother as chief scout, I was told by an academy coach at the time that GJ wanted to bring another brother in, who at the time was managing the equivalent of a Somerest county league team.

 

As manifested by he Plymouth incident?

 

Dont get me wrong Mr/Mrs Johnson, I hugely enjoyed Gary's time here despite my frustration with the LJ situation, but I also went to every game that season, home and away, with the exception of Burnley away as I was abroad, and in general we didn't take risks, quite the opposite. Nevertheless I agree it was an enjoyable season, simply due to the success. But to suggest the Cotterill season wasn't that enjoyable, that's just plain daft, did you actually go to any games while he was manager?!

In my opinion, Gary probably sacrificed his own career in order to give his son one, and as a father I can understand that although not condone it. Lansdown should have dealt with that for the benefit of all except of course LJ, but in hindsight now it's fairly obvious why he didn't.

Gary Loaned Lee out to Derby and was playing Skuse, Elliott, Hartley torwards the end, I remember the players turned on Gary he brought Lee back from Derby and played him against West Brom and we Won 2-1 Lee scored the winner!

The dressing room deserved sacking not Gary but every manager has a sale buy date unfortunately that is football, Gary should have left us after the second Championship season! He stayed long enough at our fickle club to become the villain when he’s probably the only hero we have had in decades 

fast forward to Gary’s interview at the end he had ambitions for our club he didn’t change I miss this 

21 hours ago, petehinton said:

We are so ******* embarrassing

This is what happens when you put recent University graduates in charge of you media team, I know every older generation is cringed at the younger generation but these new young crop by far the cringiest yet

4 minutes ago, bearded_red said:

Still to this day probably the best I think I’ve seen us play at this level, absolutely incredible performance.

As you say, that WBA draw was an absolutely brilliant game of football as well.

Glad to see some City fans remember the good times ! I’d have Johnson back in a heartbeat as an impact appoint look at what Warnock still achieves in 2 seasons at Rotherham, Cardiff 

9 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

Remember us beating Sheff U 2-0 at AG very early in the playoff season, we were brilliant (definitely front foot, attacking football..) McIndoe & Sproule took them apart.

Absolute nonsense to say it wasn’t exciting, we completed for everything & never gave up.

Another early game at AG saw us absolutely outclassed by an excellent WBA side but we stuck in it (Marvin Elliott was superb) & Bradley Orr scored a hugely unexpected 89th minute equaliser.

Great times.

Exactly we didn’t win 4 or 5-0 but we played passing forward thinking football we were always a goal threat under Johnson even with Adebola in the team, Adebola was quality for us IMO probably got his best spell of his career people described him as a lump yet have a Trundle love in 

49 minutes ago, TDarwall said:

This thread just demonstrates to me that some people can't see beyond their bias when it comes to a manager.  How anyone can doubt GJ's achievements here is extraordinary- other than Dicks he's outperformed every managed we've had in my lifetime.

Clearly he wasn't perfect & he was possibly better with less money yo spend, but if you consider the state we were in prior to his arrival & what he achieved; it was amazing.

Even the PO final was incredibly tight & we were at least as good as Hull that day. Had either McCombe been for or Orr not got crocked, I think we'd have won. 

 

Exactly and to question the brand of Football we played aswell! We were brave and  took risks with style ! As this video below proves, the following was an away game at Watford who were 2nd at the time in November or December of this season!

Freshley relegated from the Premier League with all the same players who had one them promotion from that League a year earlier! We went for them with no fear and came away with 3 points! Gary was a miracle worker 

Remains fresh in my memory as I was at every game that season and since Gary left I haven’t enjoyed a season yet! Even the Cotterill season wasn’t that enjoyable for me as we should never have been in League 1 in the first place 

19 minutes ago, Fredford89 said:

It amazes me how some of you can just ignore Gary’s achievements! We were in League 1 for 8 seasons from 1999-2007 Gary took us up in 1 full season and to within 1game of the Premier League and I can not be told different that if Jamie Mcombe played that day we would be a talking about statues of Gary Johnson in the City centre! Mcombe had already scored a winning goal against Hull weeks before!

Also we were top of the League in March of that Season as well as top 3 for the majority! Stop rewriting history!

Lee Trundle was a HUGE flop for us and to even consider favouring his side of an argument against Gary as a Bristol City fan is insane in my opinion 

Added to this point on the 21st of February 2009 the following season we were 4th following a fantastic 0-2 win at Steve Coppells recently relegated Reading Premier League side

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_div_1/7883610.stm

suggests no Fluke Gary had us competing! Key defender “our best player under Gary “ Louis Carey aged , Bradley Orr and Adriano Basso developed egos demanding big contracts and we could not attract the quality of attacking midfielders/ strikers needed to remain competitive! 
Gary decided to take the Peterborough job then return to Yeovil! If he was more selective with his job selection and less loyal to us he would have shaken off his unfair “conference manager “ tag our fan base labels him with

How many so called “Championship” managers can you name that mad a Play off final and finished in the top 10 twice ? Not many… then takes Yeovil up ? Any money Gary spent he deserved to spend and the preceding managers ruined his foundations

Our fan base really is frustrating 

39 minutes ago, Shauntaylor85 said:

The bizzare thing about the GJ side is we were not free flowing or good to watch in either season. Basso was the core reason for the play off run, when GJ fell out with him the wheels came off. Basso has to be the most inspirational player at AG in the past 20 years. 

It amazes me how some of you can just ignore Gary’s achievements! We were in League 1 for 8 seasons from 1999-2007 Gary took us up in 1 full season and to within 1game of the Premier League and I can not be told different that if Jamie Mcombe played that day we would be a talking about statues of Gary Johnson in the City centre! Mcombe had already scored a winning goal against Hull weeks before!

Also we were top of the League in March of that Season as well as top 3 for the majority! Stop rewriting history!

Lee Trundle was a HUGE flop for us and to even consider favouring his side of an argument against Gary as a Bristol City fan is insane in my opinion