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Williams down injured off the ball...

4-2-3-1 Williams and Nagy as the 2, Massengo in front

Anyone else completely invented a story in their head about Kalas/Wells they've then got angry at? This is pretty funny so far.

City first (Martin): https://streamja.com/JLWMZ

Did you know people have died this very year even though - and get this - they had their seatbelt on? Clear indication they don't work in my eyes and it's all a ploy by Big Seatbelt to enslave us all. What next, seatbelts on bikes? A seatbelt on every chair in the world? Am I going to be banned for sitting down now if the government gets their way? Ridiculous. It's just a slippery slope towards a totalitarian nightmare.

Look. I'll contact my friends on my government trackable smart phone, get in my car with a government mandated license and insurance, travel to the pub with a government license to serve heavily regulated alcohol (the government has banned the kids I got with from having any though), before going to the city ground regularly inspected by government health and safety teams with multiple licenses, and sitting in my seat as the government have banned terraces so I can't stand. I'll have to have a cigarette on the way though as the government have banned me smoking and drinking in there. What I will NOT acquiesce to though is the government deciding what I can and can't do!

Why do you trust him rather than the many more "credible scientists" on the other side? That's minutes from a SAGE meeting, talking about high numbers of infections in combination with high levels of vaccination. You said this: That's disinformation. You also said this: Which is missing a massive amount of context and being presented in an intentionally misleading and alarming way.

"Injuries"... the absolute vast majority are things like "sore arm" you just missed that off your screenshot as it doesn't agree with what you were saying. And WHY do you trust that specific government data, but not all the other government data telling you to get the vaccine?

Actually we have a number of ways we count them. Excess deaths (up around 85k in 2020 alone), deaths within 27 days of a positive test (about 130k), and deaths with covid on the death certificate (around 150k). There's also the issue of your argument being: - I don't trust the government! - But here's some government data and data from the yellow card scheme to back up what I said - But don't look at the rest of the government data, or the rest of the yellow card scheme, I don't trust that again (because it doesn't agree with my very specific viewpoint) It's completely logically inconsistent

Brilliant free thinking again, did you miss this bit during your no doubt extensive research? "The nature of Yellow Card reporting means that reported events are not always proven side effects. Some events may have happened anyway, regardless of vaccination. This is particularly the case when millions of people are vaccinated, and especially when most vaccines are being given to the most elderly people and people who have underlying illness." "It is important to note that Yellow Card data cannot be used to derive side effect rates or compare the safety profile of COVID-19 vaccinations as many factors can influence ADR reporting." "It is very important to note that a Yellow Card report does not necessarily mean the vaccine caused that reaction or event." How about this bit from the exact same scheme you're linking? "Vaccines are the best way to protect people from COVID-19 and have already saved thousands of lives. Everyone should continue to get their vaccination when asked to do so unless specifically advised otherwise." Or is all that stuff not trustworthy, but the bit you linked is?

Hahah, you mean like posting a fullfact.org post and not reading it? Or using their quote of the facebook article they're debunking to back up your point? True free thought! Absolutely laughable.

But did Toney go from scoring 1 or 2 a season to suddenly scoring 20? No. 8 in 14/15 (L2) 12 in 16/17 (L1) 12 in 17/18 (L1) 16 in 18/19 (L1) 24 in 19/20 (L1) 31 in 20/21 (Champ) There's a gradual increase there over the seasons you mention - granted Semenyo is younger but I'd be extremely surprised if he went from scoring 2 goals off his arse in around 40 appearances for us, to scoring 20 (our highest league scorer since Tammy) in one season. What makes you think he's capable of that exactly? You're expecting him to go from scoring 3 in L2 3 seasons ago, 2 in the Champ this year, then 20 in the Champ. We need to be realistic. I've heard this said so many times over the years about young players. People have a huge confirmation bias when it comes to them, forgetting all the ones who didn't make it they were backing. There's a reason you remember the names of them, but forget the other 3-5 young strikers at every club in L1 who haven't gone on to do what Toney has. I hope you're right of course and quoting me in a year! That'd make us all very happy.

I'd take the money and reinvest in a targeted way personally. I'd prefer a smaller, more elite squad with clearly defined/understood roles and after a year of watching him I'm not entirely sure where he fits in for us. Is he going to play regularly? If not, how are we going to play or develop him? A decent player with potential to perhaps be very good, but I don't want us to hang on to a load of players like that around the squad on that chance personally. For every "but look at Bolaise" there are ten more people said until they were blue in the face on here they were the next big thing we should be playing every week who disappeared completely. Taking risks on youngsters goes both ways - letting them go as well as playing them. I hope we keep him and he does it for us but that's what I'd do if I were making the decisions!

Not sure I'd agree. In the last 20 years we've spent 12 of them in the Championship. 12 of the last 15 years in fact. I'd argue our current relative place IS the Championship. Last time here we finished 4th, 10th, 10th, 15th, 20th, then 24th... So actually better than our current stint of 18th, 17th, 11th, 8th, 12th. I think we are where we should be, and where our expenditure should have us - which makes me ask what the rest is adding (coaches, setup, world class recruitment) if we're just doing what's expected?

I agree with people saying he needs time on the pitch and a bit of perseverance - but do you think the Championship is the right place for that? Ideally for me he'd be at a L1 club (top 6 preferably) and playing most games for them this season.

I think he's had a couple of very good performances, and a couple of average to decent ones. It's a few games in, against good but not great opposition. I'd place his better performances so far as a good higher level championship midfielder personally. If he kept his best performances up he'd get into most top 6 champ sides imo. But definitely too early to be saying any better and he'd be high end prem. That would make him our best player in how long, ten years? More probably. I'm really excited to see him develop but don't want to get too carried away as he's a young lad and will have poor games and dodgy form, which we have to accept.

He's certainly started the season very well but steady on.

So do you support smaller pubs going out of business as long as Wetherspoons can keep going? Local theatres as long as the next Avengers movie gets made? Local restaurants as long as Pizza Express is alright? Family B&Bs as long as Premier Inn are ok? Do you think all those large corporations don't/haven't benefitted from the smaller ones they bought up / took staff from / forcibly closed and replaced etc. along the way? Surely you should be advocating for them to do the same? It's not a football problem, it's a societal/capitalism problem!

To be honest he starts each game on a yellow anyway for that haircut, so it was bound to happen sooner or later

City have played well, but Forest are also used to not having the ball and countering. Don't think they'll be too upset with how the game has gone so far - we need to make our possession count and get a goal.

Yeah I'm only messing with you, hard not to get caught in the heat of the moment compared to having time to think afterwards for sure, nothing personal!

So much for the "Respectfulness and Acknowledgement" eh? Got you a lot of likes though

No. People are angry because while you say you can "choose" to do the responsible things if you want, the fact others DON'T choose to and aren't being made to has a direct impact on the rest of the country. It's not like you doing it and them not doing it means you're ok - they can still panic buy, spread a deadly disease, overwhelm our public services, and importantly infect elderly and vulnerable people just because they'll probably be ok and have "chosen" not to listen to the advice. It's a CHOICE that is selfish and will likely literally kill people. To say you can just do it is lazy thinking.

The fact it takes something of this magnitude to make ours (and other) countries actually put these things is place is so sad. We can have a bit of compassionate socialism, but only during a pandemic eh? Things like a universal basic income, employee protections for taking sick leave and on zero hour contracts (which are a separate issue), supporting local food banks, changing awful rental conditions and protecting renters etc. should be a basic part of a modern first would country in my mind, not something you roll out at times like this! Not sure that's a popular view though.