Guest redwes Posted May 22, 2004 Posted May 22, 2004 If city went up i think we would need to buy some new players. I think it would be a defender that we need (because butler can be a bit dogy sometimes). However who would you buy and sell?
Guest dez_gimred Posted May 22, 2004 Posted May 22, 2004 I think it would be a defender that we need. thats a good one...
Guest bcfc_dryblackthorn Posted May 22, 2004 Posted May 22, 2004 Yes i think a defender is what we need definately, best defence in the league, poor goal scoring record. Defender is definately top of the list this summer. Ever thought about getting into football management mate
Bristol Boy Posted May 23, 2004 Posted May 23, 2004 I'd change the manager for a start, because, if I was SL and DW approached me for £2m to spend on 2/3 players, given his record, I'd be just a bit worried! I've said before, we need 1 x GK 1 x CB 2 x Central Midfielders. 2 x Strikers. That's 6 in and I reckon about 7/8 out.
RedTop Posted May 23, 2004 Posted May 23, 2004 OK, well a bit controversial but... If we went up then assuming we resigned every player whose contract is up, kept Rougier, and Caskey proved his fitness and sharpness, I would simply buy one central defender. That's it. No new strike force, no-one else to boost midfield. We tried buying half a new squad last time and it didn't work. One of the Reading fans made the valid point that the season we went up, we spent a fortune and Watford kept pretty much the same squad. They ended up in the Premiership, we ended up bottom. There is much to be said for keeping the team spirit and the same lads. There is also much to be said for giving the lads who earned promotion the chance to show what they can do. And just as importantly, any cash we do have is better off in the bank for the time being. That way, as we actually get stuck into the new season, we'll have money held back to buy someone to fill any gaps that need filling. Last time, we spent all our money up front because the board and manager felt we needed more goal power, and then Taylor got injured and the rest is history. If we hodl somethign back then we can use it when we KNOW exactly what needs doing where, and don't waste it if, for example, it turns out that the strikers we have are capable of gettign goals in Division One. My guess is that Roberts, Lita and Miller will all cut the mustard in Division One. Even a goalkeeper can wait. Phillips is good enough to be our number one, and we can always sign a replacement as a loan at short notice if he gets injured (remember he was an ever-present this season). That way we save the salary. If Tinman hangs up his boots, then we should give Wilkshire and Caskey the chance to stake their claim. They may well be up to the task. But if they're not up to it, there's plenty of time to seek out a replacement. If they do prove equal to the task, then that's money saved that can be used to strengthen when the need arises, rather than blowing it all and finding the cupboard bare later in the season if we get a crucial injury. Remember even those in Division One this season admit it's a pretty weak league at the moment, and there are still enough sides embroiled in financial crises who will struggle to keep any semblance of a decent team and will probably fill one or two of the relegation spots, just like this season. I say we put our faith in the young 'uns and in team spirit and stability, and act later if it all goes wrong. So that's it. One experienced, large defender who sweats blood and tears for the cause and is able to head back balls lumped in towards him with interest. But first, we've got to get there.
Bristol Boy Posted May 23, 2004 Posted May 23, 2004 2 strikers LAUGH MY BIG FAT HAIRY COCK OFF Can I congratulate you on a most adult and constructive posting. Get some help
Guest claloudav Posted May 23, 2004 Posted May 23, 2004 if we went up then we should get a new chairman who realsies ashton gate is good enough for divison one and doesnt try to waste the money in these new stadoum schemes and a chairman who socialises with the fans ie: coming out of the directors box and going to the ateyo, we also need a manger with more passion and enthuisam for city..............tinnion???
B-Rizzle Posted May 23, 2004 Posted May 23, 2004 I reckon we need a solid defender like butler but better (robert page) a central midfielder (wellens or quinn) Goalscoring striker(someone like robins but younger) Gillespie decent young talent who would be a definat good investmant. And i reckon we should get rid of matthews burnell and maybe bell but would like to keep him. I would also keep peacock because then that would give us 5 strikers. 2 target men=Peacock and Miller 2 goalscorers=Roberts and a signing 2 young players=Lita and Gillespie
Cider red Posted May 23, 2004 Posted May 23, 2004 We need a central midfielder as cover because we will let burnell go and tinns wont be up to it. Alan quin from sheff weds would be good , or micheal reddy. A proven striker in division 1 who will score goals , get rid of peacock he's useless. And a central defender to replace butler , because he wont be able to keep up with the pace in division 1 , somone like robert page.
Bristol Boy Posted May 23, 2004 Posted May 23, 2004 OK, well a bit controversial but... If we went up then assuming we resigned every player whose contract is up, kept Rougier, and Caskey proved his fitness and sharpness, I would simply buy one central defender. That's it. No new strike force, no-one else to boost midfield. We tried buying half a new squad last time and it didn't work. One of the Reading fans made the valid point that the season we went up, we spent a fortune and Watford kept pretty much the same squad. They ended up in the Premiership, we ended up bottom. There is much to be said for keeping the team spirit and the same lads. There is also much to be said for giving the lads who earned promotion the chance to show what they can do. And just as importantly, any cash we do have is better off in the bank for the time being. That way, as we actually get stuck into the new season, we'll have money held back to buy someone to fill any gaps that need filling. Last time, we spent all our money up front because the board and manager felt we needed more goal power, and then Taylor got injured and the rest is history. If we hodl somethign back then we can use it when we KNOW exactly what needs doing where, and don't waste it if, for example, it turns out that the strikers we have are capable of gettign goals in Division One. My guess is that Roberts, Lita and Miller will all cut the mustard in Division One. Even a goalkeeper can wait. Phillips is good enough to be our number one, and we can always sign a replacement as a loan at short notice if he gets injured (remember he was an ever-present this season). That way we save the salary. If Tinman hangs up his boots, then we should give Wilkshire and Caskey the chance to stake their claim. They may well be up to the task. But if they're not up to it, there's plenty of time to seek out a replacement. If they do prove equal to the task, then that's money saved that can be used to strengthen when the need arises, rather than blowing it all and finding the cupboard bare later in the season if we get a crucial injury. Remember even those in Division One this season admit it's a pretty weak league at the moment, and there are still enough sides embroiled in financial crises who will struggle to keep any semblance of a decent team and will probably fill one or two of the relegation spots, just like this season. I say we put our faith in the young 'uns and in team spirit and stability, and act later if it all goes wrong. So that's it. One experienced, large defender who sweats blood and tears for the cause and is able to head back balls lumped in towards him with interest. But first, we've got to get there. I can't agree. On the basis that our strikers have been ineffective this term, leaving us as 14th highest scorers in Div 2, what makes you think we'll score against much better team in Div 1? Are you seriously suggesting we retain Matthews? Bell wasn't good enough last time, is very highly paid and not the player he was three seasons ago. Tinnion would be OK for 15/20 minutes impact performances, but that's all. Caskey couldn't play in a 2 man central midfield with TD, we'd be overrun unless we played a three, with wing backs, which I admit, we could. It's not just buying, as this season has proved.It's buying the right players and I agree about Ward & Davidson. Watfod had some vital things we didn't. a.They didn't have to sell their best striker in Sean Goater, for next to nothing because some dipstick never started contract negotiations or transfer listed them until to late-Ditto Thorpe later on. b.They didn't loose their best defender, Shaun Taylor and not replace him quick enough or indeed, at all. c.They had a manager who new the 1st Div inside out and brought in the 2/3 players he needed for next to nothing. d.Taylor didn't go on two holidays in the close season, leaving a young inexperienced Chairman to negotiate with a list of players that he wanted some, not all of. I hope you're right about Miller, but in all honesty, I don't think you will be.Whilst he lacks strength that will come with age and training, more worryingly, he lacks basic speed which doesn't nornally improve with age. I agree about the possible loan siging of a keeper although we don't need Stowell as a goalkeeping coach AND Mike Gibson, so you could let Stowell go and utilise that salary on a younger better keeper and there will be loads available. The point you make about wait & see is valid and I to wouldn't want to spend all of our funds at once.
Claverham_Red Posted May 23, 2004 Posted May 23, 2004 And a central defender to replace butler , because he wont be able to keep up with the pace in division 1 , someone like robert page. Although Robert Page is a very experience first division player he is not exactly up to the pace either. The Hartlepool defender the other night, Michael Nelson was pretty good and looked very solid. What about Phil Gilchrist who has just been released from West Brom?
Martyn Hocking Posted May 23, 2004 Posted May 23, 2004 There is much to be said for keeping the team spirit and the same lads. There is also much to be said for giving the lads who earned promotion the chance to show what they can do. Remember even those in Division One this season admit it's a pretty weak league at the moment agree with most of what you say here RT, but you are wrong about the quality of Div 1. The gap between Div 2 and 1 is big - nothing like the gap between Prem and Div 1, but still big. Well_Red
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