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Usually after a defeat, being a somewhat philosophical fan, it doesn't take me too long to put the disappointment into perspective and get on with my life; but tonight, after having just returned from the game against Reading I feel angry, so angry in fact that even though I really should be getting some sleep in order to wake early for work tomorrow morning, I feel I just have to come online and vent my spleen.

However, this is not directed towards the team or the manager, but at the fans who booed after the match, whom I thought were a disgrace. The team had, for the vast majority of the ninety minutes delivered an inspiring performance, full of drive and intent to win. It was one of the most exciting games I have watched for a long time, until two dreadful flaps by James meant that the scores were unjustly level, followed quickly by a fluke goal to take away our points. The lads had played their hearts out, and what do they get in return but a loud chorus of boos from so-called supporters. Shame on them. The players don't deserve 'supporters' like that. How is that going to help the team get over such a shocking injustice that the scoreline reveals? How is that going to boost the confidence of players who had just played their hearts out for the cause? This is not the message we should be sending to the players and staff.

It's about time that we true fans stand up to the boo boys who are trying to do down our beloved club, and voice our opposition to people who only seem to delight in negativity and despair.

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Usually after a defeat, being a somewhat philosophical fan, it doesn't take me too long to put the disappointment into perspective and get on with my life; but tonight, after having just returned from the game against Reading I feel angry, so angry in fact that even though I really should be getting some sleep in order to wake early for work tomorrow morning, I feel I just have to come online and vent my spleen.

However, this is not directed towards the team or the manager, but at the fans who booed after the match, whom I thought were a disgrace. The team had, for the vast majority of the ninety minutes delivered an inspiring performance, full of drive and intent to win. It was one of the most exciting games I have watched for a long time, until two dreadful flaps by James meant that the scores were unjustly level, followed quickly by a fluke goal to take away our points. The lads had played their hearts out, and what do they get in return but a loud chorus of boos from so-called supporters. Shame on them. The players don't deserve 'supporters' like that. How is that going to help the team get over such a shocking injustice that the scoreline reveals? How is that going to boost the confidence of players who had just played their hearts out for the cause? This is not the message we should be sending to the players and staff.

It's about time that we true fans stand up to the boo boys who are trying to do down our beloved club, and voice our opposition to people who only seem to delight in negativity and despair.

I agree. Booing away to Cardiff and home to Ipswich after poor performances is one thing, but to do it tonight is madness. Genuinely depressing.

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Tonight reminds me of a defeat against Bradford during GJ's 9 game losing streak. That game was the last we lost. We controlled that game and should have won. Everyone in the ground saw that and the players walked off to applause. What's the difference between tonight and that game? I'm baffled but all I do know is many were happy to see us lose as they feel that will strengthen the case against Millen.

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personally not someone who booed after the game but people pay a lot of money nowadays so surely they are entitled to voice there opinions how they want. for the best part of the game the city were dominant yet never killed the game off and were made to pay so i would imagine it was more of frustration than anger the reason they were booing

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Tonight reminds me of a defeat against Bradford during GJ's 9 game losing streak. That game was the last we lost. We controlled that game and should have won. Everyone in the ground saw that and the players walked off to applause. What's the difference between tonight and that game? I'm baffled but all I do know is many were happy to see us lose as they feel that will strengthen the case against Millen.

Last night reminds me of the defeats by Swansea and Cardiff......where does a management team go from this one? there is no recovering im afraid.

He wasnt to blame for last nights result, but last night result was the cherry on a Keith Millen dog sh*t cake. We need a massive shake up at this club, and if it doesnt come soon, we will 100% be relegated

Did the players deserve to be boo'd? Absolutely. They are proffessional players who were 2-0 up with what, 18 minutes left?? history is littered with relegated teams and people saying "....oh we did so well for an hour in that game" and "oh we deserved more out of that". Its a losers excuse. Football is a 90 minute game, and being able to see a game out is just as important as trying to put yourself in a winning position.

Last night was pathetic and there are NO excuses

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The lads had played their hearts out, and what do they get in return but a loud chorus of boos from so-called supporters. Shame on them. The players don't deserve 'supporters' like that. How is that going to help the team get over such a shocking injustice that the scoreline reveals? How is that going to boost the confidence of players who had just played their hearts out for the cause? This is not the message we should be sending to the players and staff.

I agree, as I said in the David James thread, the match was as good an example as you will see of why we are a confidence side - it was coursing through the players at 2-0 up, and it was utterly destroyed the minute the keeper started to flap.

Given the evidence of what is possible when the players aren't scared or paranoid, what do half the crowd do, but boo and jeer them off the pitch. Say what you want about Millen but at the moment it is any old stick, and it doesn't help the players.

People will say it IS the players but yesterday it was David James, already divisive among the players for all his privilege. So we have talented young players trying hard and having their confidence and efforts shot to pieces due to the best paid player.

People saw last night what is possible from the talented players in the squad given confidence, and yet rather than support that, some fans are straight on their back regardless of who is at fault. The booing rewarded effort with indiscriminate blame.

If I did a good job and got barracked repeatedly because the much better paid employee down the corridor was consistently hopeless, I would be lacking confidence and demoralised too. We have young players (Adomah, Wilson, McGivern) and others who don't deserve it.

Did anyone see Albert remonstrating with James are the equaliser. Here's a young guy who has played out of his skin, scored one (perhaps two) brilliant individual goals and setup another with a great cross, and in 5 minutes someone earning 5 times his wage wastes it all.

What do you think this kind of culture does in the squad? Do you think we have a united team? The booing WAS inane. I'm sure there are decent players who are hurting and lacking belief because even when they put a shift in, they get it in the neck for others.

If the booing was for Millen it started as soon as the whistle went, not just as he walked off, so it was THE response to players efforts. And as for Millen, as in the David James thread - he didn't sign this clown and I'm amazed people believe he has the luxury of dropping him permanently.

Guest Tony Montana
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Some people payed around 30 quid to watch that last night and thats without kids etc. And season ticket holders even more for the whole season. Then we get to sit and watch a simply awful reading side with a defence worse than ours- score 3 goals in the las what ? 20 mins. They deserve to be booed not just because of this game but because of the whole start to the season!

Guest Black rat FC 77
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Usually after a defeat, being a somewhat philosophical fan, it doesn't take me too long to put the disappointment into perspective and get on with my life; but tonight, after having just returned from the game against Reading I feel angry, so angry in fact that even though I really should be getting some sleep in order to wake early for work tomorrow morning, I feel I just have to come online and vent my spleen.

However, this is not directed towards the team or the manager, but at the fans who booed after the match, whom I thought were a disgrace. The team had, for the vast majority of the ninety minutes delivered an inspiring performance, full of drive and intent to win. It was one of the most exciting games I have watched for a long time, until two dreadful flaps by James meant that the scores were unjustly level, followed quickly by a fluke goal to take away our points. The lads had played their hearts out, and what do they get in return but a loud chorus of boos from so-called supporters. Shame on them. The players don't deserve 'supporters' like that. How is that going to help the team get over such a shocking injustice that the scoreline reveals? How is that going to boost the confidence of players who had just played their hearts out for the cause? This is not the message we should be sending to the players and staff.

It's about time that we true fans stand up to the boo boys who are trying to do down our beloved club, and voice our opposition to people who only seem to delight in negativity and despair.

Guest Black rat FC 77
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Sorry I've got to disagree. I have never been one to stand there and boo at the end of the game but tonight was a build up of pure frustration at the managers inability to close out what should of been a simple home win.

Things need to change now before we see ourselves further into the relegation fold which seems inevitable.

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Usually after a defeat, being a somewhat philosophical fan, it doesn't take me too long to put the disappointment into perspective and get on with my life; but tonight, after having just returned from the game against Reading I feel angry, so angry in fact that even though I really should be getting some sleep in order to wake early for work tomorrow morning, I feel I just have to come online and vent my spleen.

However, this is not directed towards the team or the manager, but at the fans who booed after the match, whom I thought were a disgrace. The team had, for the vast majority of the ninety minutes delivered an inspiring performance, full of drive and intent to win. It was one of the most exciting games I have watched for a long time, until two dreadful flaps by James meant that the scores were unjustly level, followed quickly by a fluke goal to take away our points. The lads had played their hearts out, and what do they get in return but a loud chorus of boos from so-called supporters. Shame on them. The players don't deserve 'supporters' like that. How is that going to help the team get over such a shocking injustice that the scoreline reveals? How is that going to boost the confidence of players who had just played their hearts out for the cause? This is not the message we should be sending to the players and staff.

It's about time that we true fans stand up to the boo boys who are trying to do down our beloved club, and voice our opposition to people who only seem to delight in negativity and despair.

I was in the Atyeo and I got the impression that the boos were for Keith Millen.

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I know from experience that booing doesn't work, so I went down to the tunnel and told them exactly what I thought of them. As a season ticket holder who's been going regularly for over two decades I've got a right to express my opinion and 'expressing displeasure' is exactly the message I wanted to send to the 'players and staff'. They need a rocket up their *rses because neither the players nor the manager apparently seem to realise that they are dragging the club back down to the football wasteland that is League 1 - not that many of them will be playing/coaching there if we get relegated.

It was a collective failure last night, you win/lose/draw as a team - you can't single out individuals for praise after a loss, every player/coach/fan has to look at his or her performance and think 'what could I have done to help us win a game we should have won'. Unfortunately for the fans, we're just the poor b*stards that have to pay to watch and we're limited in our responses. That doesn't mean we can't make the most of how we can respond though.

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Got to stick up for the fans!

The team played very well and the fans responded brilliantly. Even after their equaliser there was no negativity.

We chuck away 3 points, get nothing - after all that's gone on this season, what do you expect?!

Pretty sure it wasn't directed at the players anyway - more towards millen

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I agree, as I said in the David James thread, the match was as good an example as you will see of why we are a confidence side - it was coursing through the players at 2-0 up, and it was utterly destroyed the minute the keeper started to flap.

Given the evidence of what is possible when the players aren't scared or paranoid, what do half the crowd do, but boo and jeer them off the pitch. Say what you want about Millen but at the moment it is any old stick, and it doesn't help the players.

People will say it IS the players but yesterday it was David James, already divisive among the players for all his privilege. So we have talented young players trying hard and having their confidence and efforts shot to pieces due to the best paid player.

People saw last night what is possible from the talented players in the squad given confidence, and yet rather than support that, some fans are straight on their back regardless of who is at fault. The booing rewarded effort with indiscriminate blame.

If I did a good job and got barracked repeatedly because the much better paid employee down the corridor was consistently hopeless, I would be lacking confidence and demoralised too. We have young players (Adomah, Wilson, McGivern) and others who don't deserve it.

Did anyone see Albert remonstrating with James are the equaliser. Here's a young guy who has played out of his skin, scored one (perhaps two) brilliant individual goals and setup another with a great cross, and in 5 minutes someone earning 5 times his wage wastes it all.

What do you think this kind of culture does in the squad? Do you think we have a united team? The booing WAS inane. I'm sure there are decent players who are hurting and lacking belief because even when they put a shift in, they get it in the neck for others.

If the booing was for Millen it started as soon as the whistle went, not just as he walked off, so it was THE response to players efforts. And as for Millen, as in the David James thread - he didn't sign this clown and I'm amazed people believe he has the luxury of dropping him permanently.

That was an excellent post Sir. I hope the content of your summary of the game and conclusions gets read by the appropriate people in authority at this football club. The club is in deep trouble the way it's being currently run - no doubt about that. I'd go for nurturing the promising young players we saw last night and putting Gerken in goal. Albert Adomah and the other outfield players were often superb last night and no way did they deserve to lose. Their confidence must be shot to pieces seeing the brilliance of the Reading keeper in stopping their shots and at the other end David James flapping around. They also need a proper manager to help them.

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<br />Usually after a defeat, being a somewhat philosophical fan, it doesn't take me too long to put the disappointment into perspective and get on with my life; but tonight, after having just returned from the game against Reading I feel angry, so angry in fact that even though I really should be getting some sleep in order to wake early for work tomorrow morning, I feel I just have to come online and vent my spleen.<br />However, this is not directed towards the team or the manager, but at the fans who booed after the match, whom I thought were a disgrace. The team had, for the vast majority of the ninety minutes delivered an inspiring performance, full of drive and intent to win. It was one of the most exciting games I have watched for a long time, until two dreadful flaps by James meant that the scores were unjustly level, followed quickly by a fluke goal to take away our points. The lads had played their hearts out, and what do they get in return but a loud chorus of boos from so-called supporters. Shame on them. The players don't deserve 'supporters' like that. How is that going to help the team get over such a shocking injustice that the scoreline reveals? How is that going to boost the confidence of players who had just played their hearts out for the cause? This is not the message we should be sending to the players and staff. <br />It's about time that we true fans stand up to the boo boys who are trying to do down our beloved club, and voice our opposition to people who only seem to delight in negativity and despair.<br />

I understand some of what your saying.

But where do you draw the line? We lost again last night, in an awful manner.

If we loose the next match, will you still stick with Keith? What about the next after that?

Despite all the positives that last night showed, ultimately we lost, again.

Something is wrong at the club for us to capitualte in that manner. Keith is the man paid to sort it out. I would suggest he has 2 games left in which to do it.

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<br />I agree, as I said in the David James thread, the match was as good an example as you will see of why we are a confidence side - it was coursing through the players at 2-0 up, and it was utterly destroyed the minute the keeper started to flap.<br /><br />Given the evidence of what is possible when the players aren't scared or paranoid, what do half the crowd do, but boo and jeer them off the pitch. Say what you want about Millen but at the moment it is any old stick, and it doesn't help the players.<br /><br />People will say it IS the players but yesterday it was David James, already divisive among the players for all his privilege. So we have talented young players trying hard and having their confidence and efforts shot to pieces due to the best paid player.<br /><br />People saw last night what is possible from the talented players in the squad given confidence, and yet rather than support that, some fans are straight on their back regardless of who is at fault. The booing rewarded effort with indiscriminate blame.<br /><br />If I did a good job and got barracked repeatedly because the much better paid employee down the corridor was consistently hopeless, I would be lacking confidence and demoralised too. We have young players (Adomah, Wilson, McGivern) and others who don't deserve it.<br /><br />Did anyone see Albert remonstrating with James are the equaliser. Here's a young guy who has played out of his skin, scored one (perhaps two) brilliant individual goals and setup another with a great cross, and in 5 minutes someone earning 5 times his wage wastes it all.<br /><br />What do you think this kind of culture does in the squad? Do you think we have a united team? The booing WAS inane. I'm sure there are decent players who are hurting and lacking belief because even when they put a shift in, they get it in the neck for others.<br /><br />If the booing was for Millen it started as soon as the whistle went, not just as he walked off, so it was THE response to players efforts. And as for Millen, as in the David James thread - he didn't sign this clown and I'm amazed people believe he has the luxury of dropping him permanently.<br />

When will people realise that the buck stops with Millen?????

He is paid to manage this, he is paid to sort this out, he is paid to turnaround.

I'm sure there must be others on here who run their own business, but when things are tough or when you're trying to grow, you don't just sit back and say, well i've employeed sales rep and told them where to sale, it's not my fault if he's not trying or his confidence is shot.

It is your fault as you are the one ultimately in charge and steering the ship.

I know the players lets us down last night. But does anyone truly think that Keith is the one that can sort this mess out?

NO.

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Millen's job, at 2-0 up, is to use his players effectively to see the game out. He brings off Albert instead of JCR, who had a poor game, and brings on Taylor, an attacking player, and puts him on the wing?

Why not play 1 up front and bolster the midfield, and take Leigertwood out of the game (who was running the show for them). He also allowed the players to continue to lump the ball up to the strikers, where their number 5 won about 95% of the headers, forcing the ball back into our half.

Tactics all wrong IMO, my boos were for him.

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To concede three goals in twenty minutes especially against such a poor side at any decent level is unacceptable, they should be ashamed of themselves what's the point of playing well for 70 mins then falling apart, if you expect fans to not boo after witnessing that you are on different planet my friend.

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In 20 odd years of watching City, last night was the first time I have ever left a game before the final whistle.

When the last goal went it I had completely had enough. It has been getting progressively worse since the play-off season and last night was the final straw.

Sorry Keith but your time is up.

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Last night reminds me of the defeats by Swansea and Cardiff......where does a management team go from this one? there is no recovering im afraid.

He wasnt to blame for last nights result, but last night result was the cherry on a Keith Millen dog sh*t cake. We need a massive shake up at this club, and if it doesnt come soon, we will 100% be relegated

Did the players deserve to be boo'd? Absolutely. They are proffessional players who were 2-0 up with what, 18 minutes left?? history is littered with relegated teams and people saying "....oh we did so well for an hour in that game" and "oh we deserved more out of that". Its a losers excuse. Football is a 90 minute game, and being able to see a game out is just as important as trying to put yourself in a winning position.

Last night was pathetic and there are NO excuses

You honestly think last night was as bad as the Cardiff game?
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If I was paid £10K a week and performed so badly in my job I would be sacked - they deserve all they get; no sympathy.

How can people even stand up for them? Damn disgrace... and get that clueless monkey and his deputy out now!

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I was paid £10K a week and performed so badly in my job I would be sacked - they deserve all they get; no sympathy.

How can people even stand up for them? Damn disgrace... and get that clueless monkey and his deputy out now!

I'm not the manager :)

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You honestly think last night was as bad as the Cardiff game?

Performance wise no, of course not, and thats not what I am saying...........final result, yes. Yes it is just as bad as those results

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You honestly think last night was as bad as the Cardiff game?

No, but they may have the same effect on confidence - to play so well, go 2 nil up and lose the game.

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Got to stick up for the fans!

The team played very well and the fans responded brilliantly. Even after their equaliser there was no negativity.

We chuck away 3 points, get nothing - after all that's gone on this season, what do you expect?!

Pretty sure it wasn't directed at the players anyway - more towards millen

But it should of been directed at the players, it was there fault Riaz not Millens. Was Millen in goal when a nothing cross came over that should of been pushed out for a corner, but a experienced international keeper decided to push it straight to a strikers feet. Then fumbled a very weak shot straight into the path of another player and didn't even try to react to keep out the rebound. The answer is obviously NO, he was on the touchline unable to do anything about it, like all of us.

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But it should of been directed at the players, it was there fault Riaz not Millens. Was Millen in goal when a nothing cross came over that should of been pushed out for a corner, but a experienced international keeper decided to push it straight to a strikers feet. Then fumbled a very weak shot straight into the path of another player and didn't even try to react to keep out the rebound. The answer is obviously NO, he was on the touchline unable to do anything about it, like all of us.

Why wasn't the cross cut out by our defenders or midfield?

Or should we be letting every player get crosses in?

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But it should of been directed at the players, it was there fault Riaz not Millens. Was Millen in goal when a nothing cross came over that should of been pushed out for a corner, but a experienced international keeper decided to push it straight to a strikers feet. Then fumbled a very weak shot straight into the path of another player and didn't even try to react to keep out the rebound. The answer is obviously NO, he was on the touchline unable to do anything about it, like all of us.

Not true. He is able to influence games with his subs...

Problem is, the players he selected on the bench prevented him being able to influence the game.

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I was in the Atyeo and I got the impression that the boos were for Keith Millen.

Me too and I agree - they were aimed at Millen NOT the team. It's gone too far now and we need change NOW.

Why was KM running the line in the first half?

Why substitute a wide-player to bring a striker on and play him out wide?

Why were we continually lumping balls up the front two when their centre-halfs were much taller and winning everything in the air, why now change tacticly as when we got the ball on the floor, we looked so much better?

Guest benbcfc123
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Usually after a defeat, being a somewhat philosophical fan, it doesn't take me too long to put the disappointment into perspective and get on with my life; but tonight, after having just returned from the game against Reading I feel angry, so angry in fact that even though I really should be getting some sleep in order to wake early for work tomorrow morning, I feel I just have to come online and vent my spleen.

However, this is not directed towards the team or the manager, but at the fans who booed after the match, whom I thought were a disgrace. The team had, for the vast majority of the ninety minutes delivered an inspiring performance, full of drive and intent to win. It was one of the most exciting games I have watched for a long time, until two dreadful flaps by James meant that the scores were unjustly level, followed quickly by a fluke goal to take away our points. The lads had played their hearts out, and what do they get in return but a loud chorus of boos from so-called supporters. Shame on them. The players don't deserve 'supporters' like that. How is that going to help the team get over such a shocking injustice that the scoreline reveals? How is that going to boost the confidence of players who had just played their hearts out for the cause? This is not the message we should be sending to the players and staff.

It's about time that we true fans stand up to the boo boys who are trying to do down our beloved club, and voice our opposition to people who only seem to delight in negativity and despair.

Why should we not boo? its been a piss poor season, as most of last season was, we were 2-0 up against a poor team, and in the space of 18 minutes we concede 3 to lose 3-2 and put us second bottom. no matter how well we played, the players just arent good enough and they proved that tonight !!! things need to change quick

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I agree, as I said in the David James thread, the match was as good an example as you will see of why we are a confidence side - it was coursing through the players at 2-0 up, and it was utterly destroyed the minute the keeper started to flap.

Given the evidence of what is possible when the players aren't scared or paranoid, what do half the crowd do, but boo and jeer them off the pitch. Say what you want about Millen but at the moment it is any old stick, and it doesn't help the players.

People will say it IS the players but yesterday it was David James, already divisive among the players for all his privilege. So we have talented young players trying hard and having their confidence and efforts shot to pieces due to the best paid player.

People saw last night what is possible from the talented players in the squad given confidence, and yet rather than support that, some fans are straight on their back regardless of who is at fault. The booing rewarded effort with indiscriminate blame.

If I did a good job and got barracked repeatedly because the much better paid employee down the corridor was consistently hopeless, I would be lacking confidence and demoralised too. We have young players (Adomah, Wilson, McGivern) and others who don't deserve it.

Did anyone see Albert remonstrating with James are the equaliser. Here's a young guy who has played out of his skin, scored one (perhaps two) brilliant individual goals and setup another with a great cross, and in 5 minutes someone earning 5 times his wage wastes it all.

What do you think this kind of culture does in the squad? Do you think we have a united team? The booing WAS inane. I'm sure there are decent players who are hurting and lacking belief because even when they put a shift in, they get it in the neck for others.

If the booing was for Millen it started as soon as the whistle went, not just as he walked off, so it was THE response to players efforts. And as for Millen, as in the David James thread - he didn't sign this clown and I'm amazed people believe he has the luxury of dropping him permanently.

I think the head are dropping far too easily, first goal went everyone lost their way and we went back to the old ways of defending being too sloppy and the midfield being too scared to push out. We always go on the defensive immediately after a goal and just don't push out for the rest of the game. Pure madness

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Why should we not boo? its been a piss poor season, as most of last season was, we were 2-0 up against a poor team, and in the space of 18 minutes we concede 3 to lose 3-2 and put us second bottom. no matter how well we played, the players just arent good enough and they proved that tonight !!! things need to change quick

Booing is one thing calling the manager the "C" word is another.

Guest DursleyZidered
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ive got to be honest im not suprised at the boos last night but i think 99% of it was aimed at the fool they man we call "our manager",yes there was positives but to be 2 nil up (should have been more)to surrender that is shocking and lets be fair until the 70th minute reading were awful lets not beat around the bush,the players seem to have no self belief that was evident as soon as we conceded the first last night.We have to understand people pay decent money to see us capitulate like that so its hardly suprised people boo and are annoyed to say the least,and as for keith millen its time he went he's clueless.He has no idea about man management,no plan b,no motivational skills and has no idea about substitutions.

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don't agree at all, that game was nothing like the two you compare it to at all.

I don't mean the game itself Jordan....I mean the damage it can do to morale and belief within the club.

After those two games, the respective managers were finished. Do you believe Millen has what it takes to bOunce back from this and turn it round? I dont....

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It's about time that we true fans stand up to the boo boys who are trying to do down our beloved club, and voice our opposition to people who only seem to delight in negativity and despair.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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It's about time that we true fans stand up to the boo boys who are trying to do down our beloved club, and voice our opposition to people who only seem to delight in negativity and despair.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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