The Humble Realist Posted October 3, 2011 Posted October 3, 2011 In this order currently.... Dave Jones Karl Robinson Brian Laws Curbs O Driscoll Keane Sturrock Mcinnes, OLeary Ince Clark(lee) Trollope Phil Brown Dowie Gary Johnson Mark Hughes!
The Humble Realist Posted October 3, 2011 Author Posted October 3, 2011 http://www.skybet.com/betting/football/manager-specials/t10002896.html sorry theres the source
Longacre_red Posted October 3, 2011 Posted October 3, 2011 Wow there are some absolute stinkers in that list!!
WellRedPhil Posted October 3, 2011 Posted October 3, 2011 Brian Laws... shudder! My response exactly!
Fodbarmyarmy Posted October 3, 2011 Posted October 3, 2011 If we are serious........go get O'neil...........simple
nickolas Posted October 3, 2011 Posted October 3, 2011 Brian laws?? Christ, reappoint millen instead of that dull clown. Davies, clark or jones for me. Davies really tho, just to give the whole club some nastiness, bite and direction.
Bar BS3 Posted October 3, 2011 Posted October 3, 2011 Lee Clark (from that list) please - but can't see him leaving a good thing at 'uddersfield.
havanatopia Posted October 3, 2011 Posted October 3, 2011 No Davies.... interesting. Some odd names in there. these people just make it up as they go along.
stokes7 Posted October 3, 2011 Posted October 3, 2011 the people on the list most of them are a load of bull i mean come on how can they have trollope on the list theres no way in hell we would appoint him
havanatopia Posted October 3, 2011 Posted October 3, 2011 of that largely motley crew I would whittle it down to these : - Dave Jones 5/2 Karl Robinson 8/1 Alan Curbishley 10/1 Lee Clark 16/1 Mark Hughes 25/1
Alex_BCFC Posted October 3, 2011 Posted October 3, 2011 Not a chance of O'Neil coming. I'm suprised Mark Robbins isn't on that list. Did a good job at Barnsley who I see as in a similar situation to us (no money, down bottom of table etc). Unfairly kicked out. Why the obssession with Dave Jones with some. Had near enough the best squad in the Championship for a couple of seasons and failed to do anything.
havanatopia Posted October 3, 2011 Posted October 3, 2011 Is this for us or forest ? Or perhaps Argyle? yeahhh thats it.. they got the list wrong and the odds upside down.. lazy journos yet again ! dear oh dear.
havanatopia Posted October 3, 2011 Posted October 3, 2011 Not a chance of O'Neil coming. I'm suprised Mark Robbins isn't on that list. Did a good job at Barnsley who I see as in a similar situation to us (no money, down bottom of table etc). Unfairly kicked out. Why the obssession with Dave Jones with some. Had near enough the best squad in the Championship for a couple of seasons and failed to do anything. Robins is on the list unfortunately.
Roger Red Hat Posted October 3, 2011 Posted October 3, 2011 Not a chance of O'Neil coming. I'm suprised Mark Robbins isn't on that list. Did a good job at Barnsley who I see as in a similar situation to us (no money, down bottom of table etc). Unfairly kicked out. Why the obssession with Dave Jones with some. Had near enough the best squad in the Championship for a couple of seasons and failed to do anything. Would that be the Mark Robins at 12/1 in the list or a different one?
A Horse With No Name Posted October 3, 2011 Posted October 3, 2011 of that largely motley crew I would whittle it down to these : - Dave Jones 5/2 Karl Robinson 8/1 Alan Curbishley 10/1 Lee Clark 16/1 Mark Hughes 25/1 Might be me being stupid, but who is Karl Robinson?
hippy273 Posted October 3, 2011 Posted October 3, 2011 Might be me being stupid, but who is Karl Robinson? Young League 1 MK Dons manager, i wouldn't want him really. Too young no experience
SJC Posted October 3, 2011 Posted October 3, 2011 Looking at that list the one that jumps out at me is still O'Driscoll. I wonder how burned Lansdown will be from the Coppell situation, plenty of 'names' on there which he might be inclined to avoid - and I include Jones in that. Although I'm aware it will be met with a mixed response, I'm still very much for O'Driscoll, and I wonder whether he might be just about the right profile level not to scare Lansdown off.
Alex_BCFC Posted October 3, 2011 Posted October 3, 2011 Robins is on the list unfortunately. Why unfortunately? Would be decent for us in the situation we are in.
Guest catcott_red1 Posted October 3, 2011 Posted October 3, 2011 Might be me being stupid, but who is Karl Robinson? 31yr old came up through the ranks coaching liverpool youth and then i went to Blackburn and learnt under Allardyce or Ince (or both) then he went to MK Dons and did similar things there then Pete Winkleman (Dons chairmen) could see his talent and gave him the Managers job. He plays good football on the floor. The swansea of League 1. Get him here now!
Monkeh Posted October 3, 2011 Posted October 3, 2011 can't believe Mark Hughes is on that last that would be amazing, I can't see further then Dave Jones though
Alex_BCFC Posted October 3, 2011 Posted October 3, 2011 Would that be the Mark Robins at 12/1 in the list or a different one? Sorry only looked at names at start of thread. Can't access link at work.
Roger Red Hat Posted October 3, 2011 Posted October 3, 2011 31yr old came up through the ranks coaching liverpool youth and then i thin went to lackburn and learnt under Allardyce or Ince (or both) then he went to MK Dons and did similar things there then Pete Winkleman (Dons chairmen) coul see his talent and gave him the Managers job. He plays good football on the floor. The swansea of League 1. Get him here now! I'd probably take a punt on him and apparently Terry Mcdermott is his coach.
The Chaplain Posted October 3, 2011 Posted October 3, 2011 Still odd to me that the name I've heard, though not one I'd be very happy with I hasten to say, is not even on the list.
bcfcmike Posted October 3, 2011 Posted October 3, 2011 31yr old came up through the ranks coaching liverpool youth and then i went to Blackburn and learnt under Allardyce or Ince (or both) then he went to MK Dons and did similar things there then Pete Winkleman (Dons chairmen) could see his talent and gave him the Managers job. He plays good football on the floor. The swansea of League 1. Get him here now! No thanks we have just had a year of allowing a unproven manager at this level do his apprenticeship at our expence??
Riaz Posted October 3, 2011 Posted October 3, 2011 Still odd to me that the name I've heard, though not one I'd be very happy with I hasten to say, is not even on the list. PLEASE tell me its not McLaren
bcfcmike Posted October 3, 2011 Posted October 3, 2011 I'd probably take a punt on him and apparently Terry Mcdermott is his coach. No mate Terry mcdermott is Lee Clarkes coach, Robinsons coach is the one and only John Gorman.......
Roger Red Hat Posted October 3, 2011 Posted October 3, 2011 No mate Terry mcdermott is Lee Clarkes coach, Robinsons coach is the one and only John Gorman....... Ahh, I'm getting on a bit so hence the confusion. Good old John Gorman, good coach, crap manager.
The Humble Realist Posted October 3, 2011 Author Posted October 3, 2011 Jones down to 6/4 already from 5/2....
Guest iWurzel Posted October 3, 2011 Posted October 3, 2011 Why the obssession with Dave Jones with some. Had near enough the best squad in the Championship for a couple of seasons and failed to do anything. I wouldn't call it an obsession. But the majority of us want someone already proven with plenty of experience at this level, who plays attacking football. One other personal want of mine is someone who comes across well in the media (i.e. can string two words together). We've always had a country bumpkin reputation and let's face it, neither GJ nor KM came across well when talking to the media which doesn't help. So for me: - Proven manager at Championship level - Known for encouraging attacking football - Intelligent That knocks most of the list off and leaves Jones as the prime candidate in my opinion. Let's not forget the fact that it'll probably aggravate Cardiff fans and lead to some fiesty derbies! Everyone here moaning that Cardiff have bottled playoffs etc. We're currently nowhere near being able to think about REACHING the playoffs, let alone bottling them! A lot of the blame also has to lie with the players. The bottom line is that under Jones, Cardiff ALWAYS looked a threat. We've been hit and miss for 3 seasons now, with the emphasis on the latter. One other manager who I think would be great is Lee Clark. However I don't think it's the time to be appointing someone with no experience of managing at Championship level.
Fodbarmyarmy Posted October 3, 2011 Posted October 3, 2011 PLEASE tell me its not McLaren Would not surprise me! Ex player Very experienced Good contacts for loanees He resigned yesterday We sack today Do the math....Not a difficult sum to add up But then again.........he left Florist citing lack of ambition!..................god knows what he would think of us then? Maybe..... if we spoke to him right away Sat night or early Sunday ....he sees that as showing ambition? I dont know
Back of the net Posted October 3, 2011 Posted October 3, 2011 Dave Jones now 4/5. Clearly plenty of money going on him, but is it from people who know something?
havanatopia Posted October 3, 2011 Posted October 3, 2011 Why unfortunately? Would be decent for us in the situation we are in. Just don't agree he has the gravitas. His record is reasonable but not exactly sparkling.
Slave to the rhythm Posted October 3, 2011 Posted October 3, 2011 PLEASE tell me its not McLaren If it's Aidy Boothroyd then I'm sending my season card back.
bcfcmike Posted October 3, 2011 Posted October 3, 2011 I wouldn't call it an obsession. But the majority of us want someone already proven with plenty of experience at this level, who plays attacking football. One other personal want of mine is someone who comes across well in the media (i.e. can string two words together). We've always had a country bumpkin reputation and let's face it, neither GJ nor KM came across well when talking to the media which doesn't help. So for me: - Proven manager at Championship level - Known for encouraging attacking football - Intelligent That knocks most of the list off and leaves Jones as the prime candidate in my opinion. Let's not forget the fact that it'll probably aggravate Cardiff fans and lead to some fiesty derbies! Everyone here moaning that Cardiff have bottled playoffs etc. We're currently nowhere near being able to think about REACHING the playoffs, let alone bottling them! A lot of the blame also has to lie with the players. The bottom line is that under Jones, Cardiff ALWAYS looked a threat. We've been hit and miss for 3 seasons now, with the emphasis on the latter. One other manager who I think would be great is Lee Clark. However I don't think it's the time to be appointing someone with no experience of managing at Championship level. Spot on, imo not the right time for another apprentice at this level, we are in the sh*t and need someone that is proven at this level....imo
Riaz Posted October 3, 2011 Posted October 3, 2011 Would not surprise me! Ex player Very experienced Good contacts for loanees He resigned yesterday We sack today Do the math....Not a difficult sum to add up But then again.........he left Florist citing lack of ambition!..................god knows what he would think of us then? Maybe..... if we spoke to him right away Sat night or early Sunday ....he sees that as showing ambition? I dont know He left them because he is useless. Any problems with the board is an excuse. He knew what he was getting into after Billy Davies had problems with their board.
Roger Red Hat Posted October 3, 2011 Posted October 3, 2011 Dave Jones now 4/5. Clearly plenty of money going on him, but is it from people who know something? Remember when they closed the betting on Curbishley?
havanatopia Posted October 3, 2011 Posted October 3, 2011 Dave Jones now 4/5. Clearly plenty of money going on him, but is it from people who know something? Narghh... just the bookies realising they could lose a bundle unless they alter the odds!!
Bar BS3 Posted October 3, 2011 Posted October 3, 2011 For all the people condeming and writting off potential candidates already, how many would have been in favour of us appointing Brendan Rogers at the time that Swansea did...?!
internetjef Posted October 3, 2011 Posted October 3, 2011 Dave Jones now 4/5. Clearly plenty of money going on him, but is it from people who know something? It wont take much money to shift these speciality next manager markets, especially as its not a high profile club I wouldnt read too much into it just probably a few fans thinking 5/2 looks juicy and dropping a number of £50 bets down or so.
hippy273 Posted October 3, 2011 Posted October 3, 2011 Where is Benitez? Whaddya thinking Torres on loan
DaveF Posted October 3, 2011 Posted October 3, 2011 I wouldn't call it an obsession. But the majority of us want someone already proven with plenty of experience at this level, who plays attacking football. One other personal want of mine is someone who comes across well in the media (i.e. can string two words together). We've always had a country bumpkin reputation and let's face it, neither GJ nor KM came across well when talking to the media which doesn't help. So for me: - Proven manager at Championship level - Known for encouraging attacking football - Intelligent That knocks most of the list off and leaves Jones as the prime candidate in my opinion. Let's not forget the fact that it'll probably aggravate Cardiff fans and lead to some fiesty derbies! Everyone here moaning that Cardiff have bottled playoffs etc. We're currently nowhere near being able to think about REACHING the playoffs, let alone bottling them! A lot of the blame also has to lie with the players. The bottom line is that under Jones, Cardiff ALWAYS looked a threat. We've been hit and miss for 3 seasons now, with the emphasis on the latter. One other manager who I think would be great is Lee Clark. However I don't think it's the time to be appointing someone with no experience of managing at Championship level. Agree with this. Someone who will raise the clubs reputation would be nice!
Mighty Squirrel Kingdom Posted October 3, 2011 Posted October 3, 2011 I had a few quid on Millen to go on Skybet this morning at 2-5...exactly 48 minutes before getting the text. Also had a dutch with him and McClaren before McClaren went. Remember, the odds compilers will have picked a couple of realistic choices and then gone back over the last year to see who's been sacked from clubs half way down the Championship to half way up League 1 and just thrown that list together. We're not as high profile as Forest (and that's a whole other issue) and I would imagine most of the money for that market will be coming from either Wise Guys or City fans with a particular favourite. Interesting that Steve Cotterell and Kenny Jackett are thought to be next to go. There's been a lot of grumbling at Pompey recently and - like Forest - Millwall have regressed badly compared to last season. FWIW Jones would be my pick. Has Prem experience and 'almost got Cardiff up' is better than 'nearly got CIty relegated' in my book. We'll see. Looking forward to Peterborough now whoever's in charge
Alex#40 Posted October 3, 2011 Posted October 3, 2011 If it's Aidy Boothroyd then I'm sending my season card back. +1
The Chaplain Posted October 3, 2011 Posted October 3, 2011 PLEASE tell me its not McLaren Nah, not a name I've seen mentioned anywhere, apart from someone who told me he was coming out of the club as a possibility at the end of last week, which is odd as he's out of work and, though I'm no expert, from memory not a dissimilar record to Jones/Davies. I think Jones would still be my choice though, and a deserved favorite.
Super Scotty Murray Posted October 3, 2011 Posted October 3, 2011 Would be happy with O'Driscoll or Lee Clark as they will try and play football rather than hoof ball rubbish.
BCAGFC Posted October 3, 2011 Posted October 3, 2011 Mark Robins now 4/1...... Dave Jones 4/5 Mark Robins 4/1 Sean O'Driscoll 8/1 Brian Laws 9/1 Karl Robinson 10/1 Roy Keane 12/1 Derek McInnes 14/1 Paul Ince 14/1 Paul Sturrock 14/1 Alan Curbishley 14/1 David O'Leary 16/1 Lee Clark 16/1 Paul Trollope 16/1 Phil Brown 16/1 Iain Dowie 20/1 Gary Johnson 25/1 Mark Hughes 25/1 None of those fill me with excitement, ALL either failed wasters or unproven at this level. We need a nasty man but not Davies, he is just a ****. BCAGFC
The Humble Realist Posted October 3, 2011 Author Posted October 3, 2011 Stuart pearce now 3rd fave!. Jones 1/2
Guest Tony Montana Posted October 3, 2011 Posted October 3, 2011 First thing they should do is talk to Curbishley, the worst he can say is no. If he doesnt want it then i would go for Billy davies, cant believe he's not even on that list !
RedM Posted October 3, 2011 Posted October 3, 2011 MK Dons Thank you, saves me looking him up as I've never heard of him either
Superjack Posted October 3, 2011 Posted October 3, 2011 If anyone interested...Stuart Pearce was put in that list at 20/1, has since dropped to 12/1 and is now 8/1 joint 3rd Fav Out of all the names mentioned, this is the appointment that I would love. It's not going to happen though. I will be very surprised if it's not Jones. To be honest, we could do a lot worse. I think that Pearce would be a more likely candidate for a return to Forest.
Kid in the Riot Posted October 3, 2011 Posted October 3, 2011 If anyone interested...Stuart Pearce was put in that list at 20/1, has since dropped to 12/1 and is now 8/1 joint 3rd Fav Hmmm...interesting
Guest City Chuds Posted October 3, 2011 Posted October 3, 2011 I had a few quid on Millen to go on Skybet this morning at 2-5...exactly 48 minutes before getting the text. Also had a dutch with him and McClaren before McClaren went. Remember, the odds compilers will have picked a couple of realistic choices and then gone back over the last year to see who's been sacked from clubs half way down the Championship to half way up League 1 and just thrown that list together. We're not as high profile as Forest (and that's a whole other issue) and I would imagine most of the money for that market will be coming from either Wise Guys or City fans with a particular favourite. Interesting that Steve Cotterell and Kenny Jackett are thought to be next to go. There's been a lot of grumbling at Pompey recently and - like Forest - Millwall have regressed badly compared to last season. FWIW Jones would be my pick. Has Prem experience and 'almost got Cardiff up' is better than 'nearly got CIty relegated' in my book. We'll see. Looking forward to Peterborough now whoever's in charge Even when Wigley gets given the job!!!
RedM Posted October 3, 2011 Posted October 3, 2011 Hmmm...interesting And of course there is the Wrigley link or is that a bit obvious. I loved psycho as a player though. not sure if he'd leave the under 21's, but then Copello is going????
Admin Ian M Posted October 3, 2011 Admin Posted October 3, 2011 Was discussing this with a mate the other night, Billy Davies is like an upgraded version of Gary Johnson & whilst we remain at Ashton Gate (with the associated budget levels determining the quality of player we can realistically sign) is probably the type of manager we should go for. Basically someone with a nasty streak that should get our shirkers playing for the shirt. Once we move to Ashton Vale is the time to consider the managers who aim to play prettier football.
Guest iWurzel Posted October 3, 2011 Posted October 3, 2011 Why on earth does anyone want Lee ******* Clarke? Bloke has spent Millions and produced nothing... Danny Wilson mark II Don't understand your thinking on that one at all. He's lost only 36 games in his 157 as manager of Huddersfield. Only lost 2 games in his first season in charge and then took them to a playoff final the season after, and again looking like solid bets for promotion/playoffs this season, whilst playing attacking football to boot. BUT I don't feel this is the time to be gambling on a manager unproven above League One. We need an experienced head to sort the soft touch ethos out.
RedM Posted October 3, 2011 Posted October 3, 2011 Pearce said last week he wouldn't manage England, lack of experience. I was thinking more that he might not be involved in England, when Copello goes Mourinho might want to bring in his own u21 boss! Pearce knows Wrigley and could easily slot in, we wouldn't have to find a new assistant and Pearce must know David James, easy this finding a new manager stuff innit!
Guest City Chuds Posted October 3, 2011 Posted October 3, 2011 After the Coppell Fiasco I think anyone is a gamble. I dont know about everyone else but im nervous rather than excited how little did we realise at the time how much Coppells appointment would set this club back. I think after that and the goings on at Notts Forest this week the board will pay a lot more attention to loyalty and staying power. IMO - the two biggest signings in this clubs recent history (Steve "the bottler" Coppell & David "Calamity" James) have been the worst!! Stuart Pearce - will go to Forest if anywhere I would have thought
Oops Posted October 3, 2011 Posted October 3, 2011 Heard a whisper that KM walked after the board asked him to revert to coaching and work under a director of football. At first I thought "yeah, right", but the more I think about it the more plausible it becomes, given 12 years of service and the somewhat insular attitude of the board.
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