Bar BS3 Posted October 5, 2011 Posted October 5, 2011 I am amazed by the increasing number of people stating that if Mr X, Y or Z are appointed as our new manager then they will be handing their season ticket back! Surely ANYONE that might be given the position as our manager is entitled to a fair crack of the whip to see how they do here?! Of course all fans will have candidates in mind that they would prefer and others that they really would not be keen to see in charge of our club, for a variety of different reasons. Whoever it is though, we MUST give them our backing and support initially and then what will be will be. Even if we appointed someone with a dodgy record, previous links to a rival club, someone who has upset fans with comments or celebrations in previous encounters against us - who is to say that this won't be the job in which they feel at home and produce the goods? Once they are in and settled, then by all means judge them on they job they are doing. You can even then say "I told you so". At this stage though, every applicant should have a clean slate. Of course we would all love a Martin O'neil, Mark Huges etc, but nobody knows for sure that the appointment of someone like Bryan Robson (an example of a previously poor record, NOT my suggestion as our new manager!!) would not turn out to be a match made in heaven. Im sure the club will choose carefully and appoint someone who meets their cirteria AND budget. It might work, it might not! But for starters lets give them every possible chance of success by giving them our support! PLEASE!! C.T.I.D
cheese Posted October 5, 2011 Posted October 5, 2011 We're interviewing Mr X, Mr Y and Mr Z???? Thats ridiculous, what experience do they have? If any of those 3 get appointed I'm giving my season ticket back!
Riaz Posted October 5, 2011 Posted October 5, 2011 Got to admit, if mclaren was appointed - I might stop going. Relegation aint fun.
Bar BS3 Posted October 5, 2011 Author Posted October 5, 2011 We're interviewing Mr X, Mr Y and Mr Z???? Thats ridiculous, what experience do they have? If any of those 3 get appointed I'm giving my season ticket back!
sephjnr Posted October 5, 2011 Posted October 5, 2011 Mr. X wouldn't return Colin's phone calls, he's busy hunting S.T.A.R.S. members.
Slave to the rhythm Posted October 5, 2011 Posted October 5, 2011 I am amazed by the increasing number of people stating that if Mr X, Y or Z are appointed as our new manager then they will be handing their season ticket back! Surely ANYONE that might be given the position as our manager is entitled to a fair crack of the whip to see how they do here?! Of course all fans will have candidates in mind that they would prefer and others that they really would not be keen to see in charge of our club, for a variety of different reasons. Whoever it is though, we MUST give them our backing and support initially and then what will be will be. Even if we appointed someone with a dodgy record, previous links to a rival club, someone who has upset fans with comments or celebrations in previous encounters against us - who is to say that this won't be the job in which they feel at home and produce the goods? Once they are in and settled, then by all means judge them on they job they are doing. You can even then say "I told you so". At this stage though, every applicant should have a clean slate. Of course we would all love a Martin O'neil, Mark Huges etc, but nobody knows for sure that the appointment of someone like Bryan Robson (an example of a previously poor record, NOT my suggestion as our new manager!!) would not turn out to be a match made in heaven. Im sure the club will choose carefully and appoint someone who meets their cirteria AND budget. It might work, it might not! But for starters lets give them every possible chance of success by giving them our support! PLEASE!! C.T.I.D I would only adopt the "sending my season card back" approach if we appointed Boothroyd. Everybody else gets the benefit of the doubt.
Bar BS3 Posted October 5, 2011 Author Posted October 5, 2011 I would only adopt the "sending my season card back" approach if we appointed Boothroyd. Everybody else gets the benefit of the doubt. OK, fair enough. we all have our prefered choices and those we would prefer to never step foot inside our club. My point being though (using your reply as the example) We appoint Boothroyd. Wouldn't be particularly popular with most supporters, but say he met the boards criteria, interviewed really well and had a burning passion to have another go as manager in the NPC. He comes in, whips the players into shape and strings some results together etc etc. Is that not what we all want?! Does the name and previous history matter if they are able to come in and do the business for us? Good example of a complete ass, who no club should have touched with a barge pole id Tony (makes me feel sick saying it) Pulis. fell out with Gillingham, Almost destroyed us, did a poor job and Pompey, but Stoke took a punt on him and now look what they have achieved! You just never know!
glynriley Posted October 5, 2011 Posted October 5, 2011 I would only adopt the "sending my season card back" approach if we appointed Boothroyd. Everybody else gets the benefit of the doubt. I know exactly what Bar BS3 is getting at , I started the attached thread the other day for the same reason. Whoever gets the job will have their doubter's from the start but we , as fans , need to get behind them. What if Boothroyd got the job and won the first 6 games?? Let's see who gets it and back them. I have a couple of names in my head that I would be less than enthused to see get the job but I'm more than happy to give them my support from the start. http://www.otib.co.uk/index.php?/topic/139849-totally-underwhelmed/
NOTR Posted October 5, 2011 Posted October 5, 2011 So some people wern't happy with the manager we had,and now some aren't happy with a manager we don't yet have.
Talk Of The Town Posted October 5, 2011 Posted October 5, 2011 I know exactly what Bar BS3 is getting at , I started the attached thread the other day for the same reason. Whoever gets the job will have their doubter's from the start but we , as fans , need to get behind them. What if Boothroyd got the job and won the first 6 games?? Let's see who gets it and back them. I have a couple of names in my head that I would be less than enthused to see get the job but I'm more than happy to give them my support from the start. http://www.otib.co.uk/index.php?/topic/139849-totally-underwhelmed/ Indeed, Look at Pardew at Newcastle,their fans were up in arms at that appointment but look at the job hes doing. I will support anyone that comes in even if its steve mcclaren.
Simez Posted October 5, 2011 Posted October 5, 2011 Aidy Boothroyd. I'm sure he would crack some heads together and get some results but I'm not interested in a hoofball merchant, that and I don't like the guy mean I'd seriously consider it!
Bar BS3 Posted October 5, 2011 Author Posted October 5, 2011 Indeed, Look at Pardew at Newcastle,their fans were up in arms at that appointment but look at the job hes doing. I will support anyone that comes in even if its steve mcclaren. Very good example of my point.
Will Rollason Posted October 5, 2011 Posted October 5, 2011 Absolutely agree with BS3...... Unless it was Warnock...... thats my breaking point....
Red-Robbo Posted October 5, 2011 Posted October 5, 2011 Not sure I'd want a manager called Xxxxxxx Xxxxxxxxx be hard to start a chant around his name for one thing and besides since when have Albanians achieved anything in football?
Bar BS3 Posted October 5, 2011 Author Posted October 5, 2011 Not sure I'd want a manager called Xxxxxxx Xxxxxxxxx be hard to start a chant around his name for one thing and besides since when have Albanians achieved anything in football? ...Ah, but you are forgetting that here in Brizzle, it would be abreviated to X X. Much easier to fit that into a chant!
Bar BS3 Posted October 5, 2011 Author Posted October 5, 2011 Not sure I'd want a manager called Xxxxxxx Xxxxxxxxx be hard to start a chant around his name for one thing and besides since when have Albanians achieved anything in football? ohh arrrr, he's from Albaniaaaaar
Dollymarie Posted October 5, 2011 Posted October 5, 2011 Can't say i'd want Glenn Hoddle sorry, after his comments about disabled people, I can't see him in management again.
Garland-sweden Posted October 5, 2011 Posted October 5, 2011 So some people wern't happy with the manager we had,and now some aren't happy with a manager we don't yet have. He he.
Northern Red Posted October 5, 2011 Posted October 5, 2011 I am amazed by the increasing number of people stating that if Mr X, Y or Z are appointed as our new manager then they will be handing their season ticket back! Surely ANYONE that might be given the position as our manager is entitled to a fair crack of the whip to see how they do here?! Of course all fans will have candidates in mind that they would prefer and others that they really would not be keen to see in charge of our club, for a variety of different reasons. Whoever it is though, we MUST give them our backing and support initially and then what will be will be. Even if we appointed someone with a dodgy record, previous links to a rival club, someone who has upset fans with comments or celebrations in previous encounters against us - who is to say that this won't be the job in which they feel at home and produce the goods? Once they are in and settled, then by all means judge them on they job they are doing. You can even then say "I told you so". At this stage though, every applicant should have a clean slate. Of course we would all love a Martin O'neil, Mark Huges etc, but nobody knows for sure that the appointment of someone like Bryan Robson (an example of a previously poor record, NOT my suggestion as our new manager!!) would not turn out to be a match made in heaven. Im sure the club will choose carefully and appoint someone who meets their cirteria AND budget. It might work, it might not! But for starters lets give them every possible chance of success by giving them our support! PLEASE!! C.T.I.D Spot on, couldn't agree more. Unless we appoint Dennis Wise, in which case this post is null and void
bearded_red Posted October 5, 2011 Posted October 5, 2011 I am amazed by the increasing number of people stating that if Mr X, Y or Z are appointed as our new manager then they will be handing their season ticket back! Surely ANYONE that might be given the position as our manager is entitled to a fair crack of the whip to see how they do here?! Of course all fans will have candidates in mind that they would prefer and others that they really would not be keen to see in charge of our club, for a variety of different reasons. Whoever it is though, we MUST give them our backing and support initially and then what will be will be. Even if we appointed someone with a dodgy record, previous links to a rival club, someone who has upset fans with comments or celebrations in previous encounters against us - who is to say that this won't be the job in which they feel at home and produce the goods? Once they are in and settled, then by all means judge them on they job they are doing. You can even then say "I told you so". At this stage though, every applicant should have a clean slate. Of course we would all love a Martin O'neil, Mark Huges etc, but nobody knows for sure that the appointment of someone like Bryan Robson (an example of a previously poor record, NOT my suggestion as our new manager!!) would not turn out to be a match made in heaven. Im sure the club will choose carefully and appoint someone who meets their cirteria AND budget. It might work, it might not! But for starters lets give them every possible chance of success by giving them our support! PLEASE!! C.T.I.D I agree with your basic point and even if City make an absolutely unthinkably bad appointment such as Dowie we should still try and put our anger to one side (on matchday at least) and get behind the lads as they're going to need all the help they can get this season. But for me there is a line, and over the other side of that line is Ian Holloway. Although massively overrated in my opinion he is clearly a decent manager and a better one then a few of the names on the betting list in another thread, and by no means do I think that City will approach him or that he'd accept, but I don't think I'd be able to support any team managed by that horrible piece of Gas s***. Similarly to when Pulis was here, I wouldn't be able to stop myself thinking 'Maybe losing every week wouldn't be the worst thing in the world as it would force this horrible, nasty gas c*** out of our club'.
Andy Horsman Posted October 5, 2011 Posted October 5, 2011 Can't say i'd want Glenn Hoddle sorry, after his comments about disabled people, I can't see him in management again. I agree totally Marie, would never watch city again if he was given the job
zider'ed Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 All this talk of Mr X, Mr Y and Mr Z I'd rather have Mr T than the likes of Wise and Hoddle. He'd soon sort the players out!
Stephen Lewis Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 Can't say i'd want Glenn Hoddle sorry, after his comments about disabled people, I can't see him in management again. He believes in reincarnation and that we choose how our life will progress so that our soul can grow, so can't you accept that he will be punished for his indiscretions ( if any) in his next life.
Dollymarie Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 He believes in reincarnation and that we choose how our life will progress so that our soul can grow, so can't you accept that he will be punished for his indiscretions ( if any) in his next life. He said that disabled people were disabled because they were paying for their sins in a past life. Belief I have no issue with, stating it like that and in such bizarre terms publically, I do.
Spike Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 I haven't had a season ticket for years, can't see myself getting one until I feel the club show some real ambition. As for not going if X Y or Z is appointed, well I'm sorry but when Millen was appointed I stopped going, I knew he wouldn't be the man to take us anywhere and if I feel the same about the next manager it'll be no different. The whole problem with this club is we aim too low and accept whatever we're given and that's not ambitious in my eyes. People are ruling out Martin O'Neill for example, I don't see why we can't at least speak to the man and see what he says, if he's not interested or we cannot meet terms then so be it, it's not going to hurt to at least try. The same goes for other great managers, I don't see why Dave Jones is being backed so much, the guy had endless money here at Cardiff (where I live) and bottled it every season, he even had Bellamy in his team and couldn't get the best out of him and the fans here in Cardiff hate the guy, I can't see him doing any better with less money and more restrictions. The whole Coppell thing still bothers me, I still don't think he quit because he'd lost his passion, I think after the pre-season and a few games with us he realised the problem is the club, the players attitude of drink is more important than their jobs etc The only way we're going to sort that out is to have a manager who has the profile to say "cut it out or get out" and then have the contacts to bring in someone better if they choose to get out.
Riaz Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 well I'm sorry but when Millen was appointed I stopped going, I knew he wouldn't be the man to take us anywhere HOW DID YOU KNOW? Mourinho was in the backroom staff at barcelona - now is a world class manager. Nigel Adkins of was a physio at s****horpe - now looks likely to go onto big things. Andre Vilas Boas was in the backroom staff at Chelsea, and is now back there as their manager. How do you know he was going to be a poor manager - fact is - NO ONE KNEW - until he got his chance.
Spike Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 HOW DID YOU KNOW? Mourinho was in the backroom staff at barcelona - now is a world class manager. Nigel Adkins of was a physio at s****horpe - now looks likely to go onto big things. Andre Vilas Boas was in the backroom staff at Chelsea, and is now back there as their manager. How do you know he was going to be a poor manager - fact is - NO ONE KNEW - until he got his chance. 1) No contacts 2) Shown before to be tactically inept 3) Dull as dishwater, no exactly a motivator when he can talk you to sleep 4) No previous experience As for no-one knew, ok so the word "knew" may not be right but it wasn't hard to take an educated guess that he was not going to be the man to change this club from a Championship Club to a Premier League and the fact we're closer to being a League One club now pretty much confirms my educated guess was a pretty accurate one. End of the day if you want to clap and cheer a man so long as he has the manager of Bristol City tittle then be my guest but I'll cheer on our manager when he shows some passion, makes good decisions and I believe he can do more than pick up a check and make excuses.
Riaz Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 1) No contacts 2) Shown before to be tactically inept 3) Dull as dishwater, no exactly a motivator when he can talk you to sleep 4) No previous experience As for no-one knew, ok so the word "knew" may not be right but it wasn't hard to take an educated guess that he was not going to be the man to change this club from a Championship Club to a Premier League and the fact we're closer to being a League One club now pretty much confirms my educated guess was a pretty accurate one. End of the day if you want to clap and cheer a man so long as he has the manager of Bristol City tittle then be my guest but I'll cheer on our manager when he shows some passion, makes good decisions and I believe he can do more than pick up a check and make excuses. 1) how did you know he did'nt have contacts? he knew steve coppell from the past and knows ian holloway... and has been in football a long time 2) I agree he is tatically inept - but how did he show he was tatically inept before he got his first job? 3) Some successful managers are dull - should'nt hold that against him 4) every manager has to start somewhere, to gain experience. It did'nt take me long to realise, he was tatically inept and soon enough I also did'nt want him as manager. But all managers start somewhere and I was all for him getting his chance. I cant stand those who did not give him a chance and say "I told you so" - in reality, you were guessing
SimplyRed Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 1) No contacts 2) Shown before to be tactically inept 3) Dull as dishwater, no exactly a motivator when he can talk you to sleep 4) No previous experience As for no-one knew, ok so the word "knew" may not be right but it wasn't hard to take an educated guess that he was not going to be the man to change this club from a Championship Club to a Premier League and the fact we're closer to being a League One club now pretty much confirms my educated guess was a pretty accurate one. End of the day if you want to clap and cheer a man so long as he has the manager of Bristol City tittle then be my guest but I'll cheer on our manager when he shows some passion, makes good decisions and I believe he can do more than pick up a check and make excuses. Spot on. And I will make a similar judgement of the new manager when he is appointed. I said in a previous post that the Board are walking a tightrope here and need to select the correct manager. Forget Robins or McInnes - nobodies in terms of experience of top level English football. The board needs to show ambition and that they are not afraid to get and support a manager who has the passion, experience and commitment to knock the club into shape. We are a backwater club, because the board acts like a backwater club. They've even managed to brainwash the fans into thinking we don't deserve any better and to accept everything they do 'for the good and financial well-being of the club', and anyone who challenges that mindset is shot down in flames. You can harp on about 1982 as much as you like, but I for one would like to see this club take 'some' risk in an effort to be successful. Stagnation is the result of no change. Change is good and drives everything forward.
Riaz Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 Spot on. And I will make a similar judgement of the new manager when he is appointed. I said in a previous post that the Board are walking a tightrope here and need to select the correct manager. Forget Robins or McInnes - nobodies in terms of experience of top level English football. The board needs to show ambition and that they are not afraid to get and support a manager who has the passion, experience and commitment to knock the club into shape. We are a backwater club, because the board acts like a backwater club. They've even managed to brainwash the fans into thinking we don't deserve any better and to accept everything they do 'for the good and financial well-being of the club', and anyone who challenges that mindset is shot down in flames. You can harp on about 1982 as much as you like, but I for one would like to see this club take 'some' risk in an effort to be successful. Stagnation is the result of no change. Change is good and drives everything forward. Oh dear McInnes a nobody? People thought Wenger was a nobody when he took over at arsenal. Brendan Rodgers had no experience of top flight football. Or even Gus Poyet - look at brighton now Suppose you want us to follow leicester - even though, with all their money and world class manager, there arent even in the top 6! The trick is trying to find the next top flight manager before he becomes one.... and in the process, he makes us a top flight club. Any "top flight" available managers - who would want to come here, have probabaly failed miserably.
Spike Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 Oh dear McInnes a nobody? People thought Wenger was a nobody when he took over at arsenal. Brendan Rodgers had no experience of top flight football. The trick is trying to find the next top flight manager before he becomes one.... and in the process, he makes us a top flight club. Any "top flight" available managers - who would want to come here, have probabaly failed miserably. Ok for once can we stop banging on about other clubs and comparing us to them as there is a world of difference between Arsenal and Bristol City and McInnes and Wenger. Wenger won the League 1 with Monaco and had a great reputation of developing a very high standard of player before moving to Arsenal, he didn't just turn up at Arsenal and say "Go on, gis a job", he had the CV to back up his application. He's multilingual, had contacts from around the world, was known for working with limited resources and had already won 9 leagues/ cups with the teams he'd managed prior to Arsenal. McInnes on the other hand has managed only in Scotland, has been linked with multiple clubs only for it to never happen and his contacts are more than likely very small being that he's only ever managed in the Scottish leagues. His playing career was also mainly Scottish league with WBA and Millwall being his only English clubs and WBA was 7-8 years ago. Comparing these unknown entities to managers such as Wenger and Alex Ferguson is such tripe, you can say Ferguson had a Scottish only managerial and playing background prior to Man Utd but the difference is he achieved European football and was one of the few managers to beat rangers and Celtic to the title. Then when he did go to United he didn't put up with the drinking culture they had at the time and told the board they had to let him do it his way, which they did and then he sorted them all out. Our board have had multiple managers in and we still seem to have a drinking culture within the club... So, can we please stop comparing unknowns to big name managers in an effort to either persuade yourself it's the right decision or try and back up the clubs attitude towards appointing the wrong men. If McInnes does join us then I'll give him his time but I'm not convinced he'll turn this club around and I'm very confident he won't be the one who leads us into the Premier league in the long run, I'd much rather have a manager with good contacts, a no bu****** attitude and a good tactical mind and that's something you only seem to get with big appointments these days.
Riaz Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 So, can we please stop comparing unknowns to big name managers in an effort to either persuade yourself it's the right decision or try and back up the clubs attitude towards appointing the wrong men. If McInnes does join us then I'll give him his time but I'm not convinced he'll turn this club around and I'm very confident he won't be the one who leads us into the Premier league in the long run, I'd much rather have a manager with good contacts, a no bu****** attitude and a good tactical mind and that's something you only seem to get with big appointments these days. Thats the thing. All managers start off by being unknowns. Any big names that want to come here are likely to be failures (McLaren etc)
Murraysrightplum Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 Ok for once can we stop banging on about other clubs and comparing us to them as there is a world of difference between Arsenal and Bristol City and McInnes and Wenger. Wenger won the League 1 with Monaco and had a great reputation of developing a very high standard of player before moving to Arsenal, he didn't just turn up at Arsenal and say "Go on, gis a job", he had the CV to back up his application. He's multilingual, had contacts from around the world, was known for working with limited resources and had already won 9 leagues/ cups with the teams he'd managed prior to Arsenal. McInnes on the other hand has managed only in Scotland, has been linked with multiple clubs only for it to never happen and his contacts are more than likely very small being that he's only ever managed in the Scottish leagues. His playing career was also mainly Scottish league with WBA and Millwall being his only English clubs and WBA was 7-8 years ago. Comparing these unknown entities to managers such as Wenger and Alex Ferguson is such tripe, you can say Ferguson had a Scottish only managerial and playing background prior to Man Utd but the difference is he achieved European football and was one of the few managers to beat rangers and Celtic to the title. Then when he did go to United he didn't put up with the drinking culture they had at the time and told the board they had to let him do it his way, which they did and then he sorted them all out. Our board have had multiple managers in and we still seem to have a drinking culture within the club... So, can we please stop comparing unknowns to big name managers in an effort to either persuade yourself it's the right decision or try and back up the clubs attitude towards appointing the wrong men. If McInnes does join us then I'll give him his time but I'm not convinced he'll turn this club around and I'm very confident he won't be the one who leads us into the Premier league in the long run, I'd much rather have a manager with good contacts, a no bu****** attitude and a good tactical mind and that's something you only seem to get with big appointments these days. So you want a manager who has won the title with an average club in a decent footballing country? Steve McLaren then?
Spike Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 Thats the thing. All managers start off by being unknowns. Any big names that want to come here are likely to be failures (McLaren etc) That's the attitude problem we have: "Any big names that want to come here are likely to be failures (McLaren etc)", how do we know if we don't pursue them? We've had unknowns for so long now and that's proved no better. Also by the logic that all managers are unknowns when they start start off then Wenger was an unknown when he wasn't he had a hell of a CV, McInnes has been managing long enough to get an idea what he does and doesn't have and the bottom line is he doesn't appear to have many contacts... I think that's the key issue with Bristol City's appointments, our appointments never seem to have many contacts, look at GJ, he went straight back to what he knew and when he got to the Championship where he didn't know as much he struggled and has struggled ever since. We need a man who can at least say "damn, we're in a tough spot, I'll get on the old dog and bone and bring in some loans via my contacts and then build when I have more time".
Murraysrightplum Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 That's the attitude problem we have: "Any big names that want to come here are likely to be failures (McLaren etc)", how do we know if we don't pursue them? We've had unknowns for so long now and that's proved no better. Also by the logic that all managers are unknowns when they start start off then Wenger was an unknown when he wasn't he had a hell of a CV, McInnes has been managing long enough to get an idea what he does and doesn't have and the bottom line is he doesn't appear to have many contacts... I think that's the key issue with Bristol City's appointments, our appointments never seem to have many contacts, look at GJ, he went straight back to what he knew and when he got to the Championship where he didn't know as much he struggled and has struggled ever since. We need a man who can at least say "damn, we're in a tough spot, I'll get on the old dog and bone and bring in some loans via my contacts and then build when I have more time". Ah so now you want a cockney blasphemer?
Riaz Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 That's the attitude problem we have: "Any big names that want to come here are likely to be failures (McLaren etc)", how do we know if we don't pursue them? Who do you think we should go for then? Also by the logic that all managers are unknowns when they start start off then Wenger was an unknown when he wasn't he had a hell of a CV, Before wenger got his first job as a manager - he would have had no CV. SOMEONE took a chance on him (Nancy-Lorraine as it happens) McInnes has been managing long enough to get an idea what he does and doesn't have and the bottom line is he doesn't appear to have many contacts... Again, what makes you think he has no contacts? We need a man who can at least say "damn, we're in a tough spot, I'll get on the old dog and bone and bring in some loans via my contacts and then build when I have more time". I agree with this to a point - Billy Davies would be great.
SimplyRed Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 Oh dear McInnes a nobody? People thought Wenger was a nobody when he took over at arsenal. Brendan Rodgers had no experience of top flight football. Or even Gus Poyet - look at brighton now Suppose you want us to follow leicester - even though, with all their money and world class manager, there arent even in the top 6! The trick is trying to find the next top flight manager before he becomes one.... and in the process, he makes us a top flight club. Any "top flight" available managers - who would want to come here, have probabaly failed miserably. Mcinnes is a nobody - in terms of English League management experience. Show me any 'up and coming' or 'unknown' manager who was a success (and I know you have a sackful of them!) and you can probably find 10 similarly categorised managers who failed miserably. There is also the fact that players are more likely to be attracted to a club with an experienced and well-known manager than a nobody. I say let the 'up-and-coming' managers be tested by those who can afford it, not by clubs who simply cannot afford to make a mistake with their appointments. We need to take a risk to move the club forward, but let's mitigate that risk by getting someone who has proved he can work at our level. The success, or failure, of well-known managers is not an issue - managers are sacked and re-employed all the time, regardless of their success at their previous club.
Guest Ashton Kate Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 I am amazed by the increasing number of people stating that if Mr X, Y or Z are appointed as our new manager then they will be handing their season ticket back! Surely ANYONE that might be given the position as our manager is entitled to a fair crack of the whip to see how they do here?! Of course all fans will have candidates in mind that they would prefer and others that they really would not be keen to see in charge of our club, for a variety of different reasons. Whoever it is though, we MUST give them our backing and support initially and then what will be will be. Even if we appointed someone with a dodgy record, previous links to a rival club, someone who has upset fans with comments or celebrations in previous encounters against us - who is to say that this won't be the job in which they feel at home and produce the goods? Once they are in and settled, then by all means judge them on they job they are doing. You can even then say "I told you so". At this stage though, every applicant should have a clean slate. Of course we would all love a Martin O'neil, Mark Huges etc, but nobody knows for sure that the appointment of someone like Bryan Robson (an example of a previously poor record, NOT my suggestion as our new manager!!) would not turn out to be a match made in heaven. Im sure the club will choose carefully and appoint someone who meets their cirteria AND budget. It might work, it might not! But for starters lets give them every possible chance of success by giving them our support! PLEASE!! C.T.I.D I will definately be handing my season ticket back if DAVID JAMES is chosen!!! Will we never learn. We keep getting told that we want to play in the Premier League and are ambitious then PROVE to the fans that the board are. MARTIN O NEIL PLEASE......... Hope you have given him an interview Mr.Sexton.
Guest Ashton Kate Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 I am amazed by the increasing number of people stating that if Mr X, Y or Z are appointed as our new manager then they will be handing their season ticket back! Surely ANYONE that might be given the position as our manager is entitled to a fair crack of the whip to see how they do here?! Of course all fans will have candidates in mind that they would prefer and others that they really would not be keen to see in charge of our club, for a variety of different reasons. Whoever it is though, we MUST give them our backing and support initially and then what will be will be. Even if we appointed someone with a dodgy record, previous links to a rival club, someone who has upset fans with comments or celebrations in previous encounters against us - who is to say that this won't be the job in which they feel at home and produce the goods? Once they are in and settled, then by all means judge them on they job they are doing. You can even then say "I told you so". At this stage though, every applicant should have a clean slate. Of course we would all love a Martin O'neil, Mark Huges etc, but nobody knows for sure that the appointment of someone like Bryan Robson (an example of a previously poor record, NOT my suggestion as our new manager!!) would not turn out to be a match made in heaven. Im sure the club will choose carefully and appoint someone who meets their cirteria AND budget. It might work, it might not! But for starters lets give them every possible chance of success by giving them our support! PLEASE!! C.T.I.D I will definately be handing my season ticket back if DAVID JAMES is chosen!!! Will we never learn. We keep getting told that we want to play in the Premier League and are ambitious then PROVE to the fans that the board are. MARTIN O NEIL PLEASE......... Hope you have given him an interview Mr.Sexton.
Riaz Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 I will definately be handing my season ticket back if DAVID JAMES is chosen!!! Will we never learn. We keep getting told that we want to play in the Premier League and are ambitious then PROVE to the fans that the board are. MARTON O NEIL PLEASE......... Hope you have given him an interview Mr.Sexton. What makes you think Martin O'neill will want to come here?
One Team In Keynsham Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 Bryan Robson is over here for a sportsman dinner next month. I'll see what he is planning on doing next.....
Riaz Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 Mourinho had spells at Benfica, Porto and Lleria before Chelsea and won a load of stuff there, infact he was assistant at Amadora, and Ovarense before going to be Bobby Robson's Coach at Porto and managed Barce B under Van Gaal at Barce, winning some minor trophies whilst there. Adkins, was a successful manager in the League of Wales before being a Physio at s****horpe winning that league in 1994 and 1995 iirc Okay he then became a physio but he had had the experience of being succesful previously Vilas Boas was a Chelsea Scout under Mourinho but went and did well as Academica coach nearly winning the Portugese cup before winning everything at Porto and then going to Chelsea. In all of these cases, the managers have had league and cup wins before they ended up with their current jobs, many of those speculated here as being the future greats have nothing of the sort. Hence the disdain in some quarters I'm not talking about their current jobs - I'm talking about before they ever became managers - someone HAD to give them a chance!
WhistleHappy Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 If It's Xxxxx Xxxxxx Then I'll Send My Season Ticket Back Damn it..... ..was hoping title thread was mabe referring to a 'risque xxx half-time entertainment' proposal.... hmm pity - it if it was I'd have bought your ST from you!!
Guest terjon Posted October 6, 2011 Posted October 6, 2011 Dont Worry fckin CITY will take the cheapest option open to them, Just aswell let Fckin Louis Walsh pick the fcker
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