Red Robin Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 If the main site is right The Scottish guy or Robins, sexy says the money is not the issue. :nono: This is unbelievable when you have the likes of Jones,Davies,Holloway in for the job. So city board you are taking the cheap and cheerfull route. MUCH MUCH BETTER avaliable at present.
SC_Red Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 If the main site is right The Scottish guy or Robins, sexy says the money is not the issue. :nono: This is unbelievable when you have the likes of Jones,Davies,Holloway in for the job. So city board you are taking the cheap and cheerfull route. MUCH MUCH BETTER avaliable at present. didnt realise you sat in on all the interviews. what impressed you most about Holloways interview?
bcfcmike Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 If the main site is right The Scottish guy or Robins, sexy says the money is not the issue. :nono: This is unbelievable when you have the likes of Jones,Davies,Holloway in for the job. So city board you are taking the cheap and cheerfull route. MUCH MUCH BETTER avaliable at present. I agree 100% with everything you write, but lets just hope its another bullshit story from the BEP.
Guest sportingmad0209 Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 Del Boy will do for me... There must be another thread on this somewhere?
Brizzle Jordan Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 Billy Davies hasn't even applied or he would of been interviewed, Holloway is a gas head and Jones is in the running. Robins and McInnes are both young and talented so I see where the board are coming from.
bcfcmike Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 Billy Davies hasn't even applied or he would of been interviewed, Holloway is a gas head and Jones is in the running. Robins and McInnes are both young and talented so I see where the board are coming from. Its not where we are coming from, its where we are heading too that worries me with any of those 2 at the helm.....
Brizzle Jordan Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 Its not where we are coming from its where we are heading too whats worries me with any of those 2 at the helm..... Young managers can be successfull... It doesn't have to be an experienced manager, look at Norwich and Brighton. You just don't know, they could prove to be the best appointment we've made in years.
bcfcmike Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 Young managers can be successfull... It doesn't have to be an experienced manager, look at Norwich and Brighton. You just don't know, they could prove to be the best appointment we've made in years. Or the worst??
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 If the main site is right The Scottish guy or Robins, sexy says the money is not the issue. :nono: This is unbelievable when you have the likes of Jones,Davies,Holloway in for the job. So city board you are taking the cheap and cheerfull route. MUCH MUCH BETTER avaliable at present. Says you, but then you don't know that much about it really, do you? People in the game rate both Robins and McInnes very highly, and I find it extraordinary that someone who is not involved in football (correct me if I'm wrong) can assume that McInnes or Robins are MUCH MUCH WORSE options thatn Jones (who failed to get Cardiff promotion); Davies (who is generally accepted as a nasty piece of work); and Holloway (who has failed at clubs before). Trust the Board to get it right: they know more about it than you do.
Guest Mr Wendall Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 Agree with that, writting off both Robins and McInnes is stupid. I get the impression some of you wont be happy unless we get Jones.
bcfcmike Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 Says you, but then you don't know that much about it really, do you? People in the game rate both Robins and McInnes very highly, and I find it extraordinary that someone who is not involved in football (correct me if I'm wrong) can assume that McInnes or Robins are MUCH MUCH WORSE options thatn Jones (who failed to get Cardiff promotion); Davies (who is generally accepted as a nasty piece of work); and Holloway (who has failed at clubs before). Trust the Board to get it right: they know more about it than you do. People in the game rated Keith very highly too?? Excellent coach promising your manager and all that. Look what happened there??
Red Robin Posted October 13, 2011 Author Posted October 13, 2011 Billy Davies hasn't even applied or he would of been interviewed, Holloway is a gas head and Jones is in the running. Robins and McInnes are both young and talented so I see where the board are coming from. Correct me if i am wrong but i heard and watched a interview where sexton said he wanted a proven championship manager. Now can anybody tell me how these two are proven at championship level? 1- Robbins is proven 2-Mckinnes is proven
Riaz Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 It makes me laugh, how fans just want a big name. I want us to stay away from big names, unless of course the have a good managerial record.
Brizzle Jordan Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 Correct me if i am wrong but i heard and watched a interview where sexton said he wanted a proven championship manager. Now can anybody tell me how these two are proven at championship level? 1- Robbins is proven 2-Mckinnes is proven Well i must of missed that then because i remember CS clearly stating they want a manager who shares the same ambition and determination to succeed at BCFC in the long term. I also remember him saying the man doesn't NEED championship experience.
Puckle_red Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 McInnes sounds good to me and I like the fact he's unknown here. Robins doesn's interest me mainly because he has a vile yorkshire accent and he never really took Barnsley to 'the next level'. Holloway isn't worth talking about. Jones would steady the ship. Personally my favourite of all candidates is McInnes simply because he fits us.
SC_Red Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 Correct me if i am wrong but i heard and watched a interview where sexton said he wanted a proven championship manager. Now can anybody tell me how these two are proven at championship level? 1- Robbins is proven 2-Mckinnes is proven I'll correct you. you are wrong
Red Robin Posted October 13, 2011 Author Posted October 13, 2011 Well i must of missed that then because i remember CS clearly stating they want a manager who shares the same ambition and determination to succeed at BCFC in the long term. I also remember him saying the man doesn't NEED championship experience. He has changed his tune since his early responces when they parted with Millen. Sorry cannot get my head round these guys being better than the proven guys availiable.
BCFC_Dan Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 Robins has managed in the Championship for 18 months with Barnsley and I don't recall him getting them relegated, so I'd say he is proven enough. McInness has managed at SPL level which is probably on a par with the Championship overall.
'Orns Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 Davies didnt apply, and if he had, wouldnt of been considered.....CS said as much. Blimey, did he really say that? Against the criteria that was set for this appointment there are a lot of ticks in BD's box Nasty, little man that he is, he would've been my no 1 choice
SC_Red Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 He has changed his tune since his early responces when they parted with Millen. Sorry cannot get my head round these guys being better than the proven guys availiable. give us a link to the interview then where he said he wants a proven championship manager
Riaz Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 He has changed his tune since his early responces when they parted with Millen. Sorry cannot get my head round these guys being better than the proven guys availiable. Not necessarily better, just unproven (to a degree) For all we know, mcinnes and robins may be much better managers - time will tell. But you do not know they are better - no one does.
Red Robin Posted October 13, 2011 Author Posted October 13, 2011 Robins has managed in the Championship for 18 months with Barnsley and I don't recall him getting them relegated, so I'd say he is proven enough. [certainly done great things in the championship keeping a side up,feels me with confidence McInness has managed at SPL level which is probably on a par with the Championship overall.[2nd division standard apart from a couple of sides] Sorry neither feels me with confidence.
Alex_BCFC Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 Robins has managed in the Championship for 18 months with Barnsley and I don't recall him getting them relegated, so I'd say he is proven enough. McInness has managed at SPL level which is probably on a par with the Championship overall. Agree - happy to have either. Best of luck to whoever gets it, will be a tough one for first couple of years at least.
David Brent Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 Sexstone did say "money's not an issue" but whats money got to do with it anyway, if McInnes is seen as a better candidate then so be it. Quite right. I'm actually encouraged that the board would be willing to pay compensation to get McInnes. Hardly a cheap option then.
Red Robin Posted October 13, 2011 Author Posted October 13, 2011 Quite right. I'm actually encouraged that the board would be willing to pay compensation to get McInnes. Hardly a cheap option then. A darn site cheaper than the major managers linked to the job.
Red_Jim Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 If the main site is right The Scottish guy or Robins, sexy says the money is not the issue. :nono: This is unbelievable when you have the likes of Jones,Davies,Holloway in for the job. So city board you are taking the cheap and cheerfull route. MUCH MUCH BETTER avaliable at present. Why do you always post such knee-jerk stuff? I personally think McInnes could be a real find - he's got a great reputation in Scotland and has been managing for a few years now. It wouldn't exactly be expensive to get Jones (he's out of work), Davies probably hasn't applied... and Holloway - realistically, is he really an option? I'm not keen on Robins admittedly, but these guys have a few years under their belts and could do a decent job here. Like Gary Johnson did when he took over. Why do some supporters always chase a name? David James has hardly been a roaring success here, and look what happened with Coppell. The last thing I want is the cheap option just because they're cheap - but what if McInnes is the RIGHT option? Surely that's all that matters!
Red Robin Posted October 13, 2011 Author Posted October 13, 2011 Why do you always post such knee-jerk stuff? I personally think McInnes could be a real find - he's got a great reputation in Scotland and has been managing for a few years now. It wouldn't exactly be expensive to get Jones (he's out of work), Davies probably hasn't applied... and Holloway - realistically, is he really an option? I'm not keen on Robins admittedly, but these guys have a few years under their belts and could do a decent job here. Like Gary Johnson did when he took over. Why do some supporters always chase a name? David James has hardly been a roaring success here, and look what happened with Coppell. The last thing I want is the cheap option just because they're cheap - but what if McInnes is the RIGHT option? Surely that's all that matters! Certainly not nee jerk reaction,we are going down the route of unproven again as was millen,tinnion before. Sorry a gamble is not what we are looking for surly
Guest Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 not nee jerk reaction, Can I forward you my dry cleaning bill please?
Riaz Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 Certainly not nee jerk reaction,we are going down the route of unproven again as was millen,tinnion before. Sorry a gamble is not what we are looking for surly NO we are NOT. These managers have SOME experience and done decent jobs to date and in McInnes case, he's done an excellent job. They are not TOTAL rookies - in millen and tinnion, they were a total gamble - a shot in the dark. NO-ONE knew if they would make it as a manager. In the cases of Robins and McInnes, they have done enough in their careers to prove they are capable managers. What no-one knows yet, is how good they will be.
slartibartfast Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 Sorry neither feels me with confidence. Are you glad about that? I would be!
BCAGFC Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 Certainly not nee jerk reaction,we are going down the route of unproven again as was millen,tinnion before. Sorry a gamble is not what we are looking for surly Both McInnes & Robins have got managerial experience, hardly Brian Tinnion & Keith Millen. Do a bit of research on McInness, you will be shocked how good/passionate he really is. BCAGFC
bearded_red Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 McInnes- Don't know much about him, so I'll decide he is rubbish. Robins- I'll ignore the fact he did a decent job with a poor group of players at Barnsley, purely because he is not who I want. Jones- The ******* messiah. Literally the second coming. He is amazing. Best ever. WOW. Ahhh, the view of the narrow minded and ignorant. Never fails to disappoint.
BCFC_Dan Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 Sorry neither feels me with confidence. We're in a relegation battle. Robins took over a struggling Barnsley side and led them to mid-table. So he's proven at doing what we need right now. The SPL ranges in standard from mid-table Premier League down to some league one. McInness has done the equivalent of challenging at the bottom end of the Premier League with a league one side. Similar to Holloway at Blackpool really. Jones, on the other hand, whilst I wouldn't mind having him, has, I think, 1 promotion at this level and nothing more other than requiring a lot of resource to achieve mediocrity. I'm happy enough to have him but he's no more "proven" than the other two, unless you mean proven to achieve very little.
Red-Robbo Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 Certainly not nee jerk reaction,we are going down the route of unproven again as was millen,tinnion before. Sorry a gamble is not what we are looking for surly Not sure Robins would be a 'gamble'. He has experience at guiding a potless club out of the relegation zone. done it twice in fact. McInness may be more of an unknown quantity, but you don't take a small club to 4th in the SPL by being a bad manager. What would be more of a gamble IMO is to appoint one of these 'big name managers' you talk about, who has never faced either financial constraints or the demoralised squad that we currently have.
Fodbarmyarmy Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 Ahhh, the view of the narrow minded and ignorant. OTIB Forum Posters Never fails to disappoint. Sorry I had to correct you there..................then again..........they mean the same thing!
bearded_red Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 Not sure Robins would be a 'gamble'. He has experience at guiding a potless club out of the relegation zone. done it twice in fact. McInness may be more of an unknown quantity, but you don't take a small club to 4th in the SPL by being a bad manager. What would be more of a gamble IMO is to appoint one of these 'big name managers' you talk about, who has never faced either financial constraints or the demoralised squad that we currently have. Well said.
Guest sportingmad0209 Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 It suprised me how everybody seems to know how much these managers get paid, or how much compo we would have to pay to get Del Boy... In reality nobody knows this, so who's to know which is the cheaper option??? It just give us chance to post an opinion on something we have no clue! Let the board do there job, and get us the right manager... How ever long it takes, or how much it costs! Then let's give him some time to turn things around.
CodeRed Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 We're in a relegation battle. Robins took over a struggling Barnsley side and led them to mid-table. So he's proven at doing what we need right now. The SPL ranges in standard from mid-table Premier League down to some league one. McInness has done the equivalent of challenging at the bottom end of the Premier League with a league one side. Similar to Holloway at Blackpool really. Jones, on the other hand, whilst I wouldn't mind having him, has, I think, 1 promotion at this level and nothing more other than requiring a lot of resource to achieve mediocrity. I'm happy enough to have him but he's no more "proven" than the other two, unless you mean proven to achieve very little. Hang on you can't say Robins has done better (by getting Barnsley to mid table) than Jones & say Jones has done very little other than 1 promotion. I'm not particularly pro-Jones but there seems to be a view on OTIB that Jones has somehow "failed". His record: He got Stockport promoted into the Championship - quite a feat considering their budget (look where they are now in the Blue square) He got Wolves into the Premier League. They also were on the way down when he left but he had only £4M to spend to try to keep them up.. He got Cardiff to 7th, play off final, play off place, in his 3 seasons He also got Cardiff to an FA Cup final Hardly mediocrity - we'd all take 3 top 7 NPC finishes & a FA cup final from where are now wouldn't we?. CR
extonsred Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 We all really know that whoever we get is a gamble -- and the key initially is not the football they want to play but sorting out the players heads and the dressing room. I would respectfully suggest that very few of us have any idea who is best suited to those tasks and have to trust the board recognise those as being priority. If they are able to get someone who can do short term issues and long term objectives then that will indeed be miraculous -- we certainly need someone who can turn water into wine!!
Backpage Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 Says you, but then you don't know that much about it really, do you? People in the game rate both Robins and McInnes very highly, and I find it extraordinary that someone who is not involved in football (correct me if I'm wrong) can assume that McInnes or Robins are MUCH MUCH WORSE options thatn Jones (who failed to get Cardiff promotion); Davies (who is generally accepted as a nasty piece of work); and Holloway (who has failed at clubs before). Trust the Board to get it right: they know more about it than you do. Well said that man (or woman). The Board DO know more about the candidates available and we need someone with some vision.
red panda Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 Almost as bad as your misinterpretation of what pretty much everyone has said, unless you can point me to the thread where people have said he is rubbish? For the vast majority that don't want McInnes, it's because they are concerned about 100% lack of experience of managing in this league. In fact, his 100% lack of experience of managing anyone apart from a tiny club in a dreadful league. It's the huge gamble that people are uneasy about, particularly when you look at our record of taking gambles with managers. McInnes might turn out to be the next Alex Ferguson. There again he could be a disaster who taken on something way bigger than he could handle. I'd prefer to narrow the risk and go with a manager who has managed in this division, knows the teams, knows the players, know the styles of play, and has succeeded at some level within in. Would this be the same McInnes who is currently leading the poll on this forum? Who's misinterpreting now? As many people have said, there is a world of difference between McInnes and Tinnion/Millen. While you might think the SPL is dreadful, it gets more clubs into the Champions League (including the group stages) and UEFA Cup Finals than our fantastic league.
Riaz Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 Well said that man (or woman). The Board DO know more about the candidates available and we need someone with some vision. Exactly. Someone with vision, a philosophy - but also, someone who will keep us up this season.
SecretSam Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 Sorry neither feels me with confidence. Or even fills you with confidence What you do in your spare time...
Kid in the Riot Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 Exactly. Someone with vision, a philosophy - but also, someone who will keep us up this season. Agreed, I like the sound of an upwardly mobile, young manager, who is hungry for success and McInnes appears to fit that bill. Experience, knowledge of this division guarantees **** all. We might as well go and get Ian Dowie if that were the case.
redlandrebel Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 Experience, knowledge of this division guarantees **** all. We might as well go and get Ian Dowie if that were the case. No there's a thought! ... Joke.
BCFC_Dan Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 Hang on you can't say Robins has done better (by getting Barnsley to mid table) than Jones & say Jones has done very little other than 1 promotion. I'm not particularly pro-Jones but there seems to be a view on OTIB that Jones has somehow "failed". His record: He got Stockport promoted into the Championship - quite a feat considering their budget (look where they are now in the Blue square) He got Wolves into the Premier League. They also were on the way down when he left but he had only £4M to spend to try to keep them up.. He got Cardiff to 7th, play off final, play off place, in his 3 seasons He also got Cardiff to an FA Cup final Hardly mediocrity - we'd all take 3 top 7 NPC finishes & a FA cup final from where are now wouldn't we?. CR Sorry, no. I'm trying my best to argue the corner for Robins and McInness without disparaging Jones, who has a very enviable record. I'd be very happy with Jones. However, good though his record his, he's still only delivered one promotion and spent heavily at Cardiff (some of it money raised by player sales, admittedly.) He'd be more expensive than the other two without delivering significantly more value. Jones would be "safe" as Wilson was safe for us before. We'd be in no danger of relegation, but promotion, if delivered would be costly. Robins and McInness would be a gamble in the same sense as Johnson was but might provide the same relatively cheap success (yes, Johnson cost more later, once he'd reached his limit but that's a problem for the future.) For me there's a difference between a gamble like Johnson, with a guy who's been successful elsewhere but not necessarily so much at the same level, and a gamble like Tinnion/Millen where they have had no experience or success. My personal preference is the "Johnson" gamble on a manager who would not be too costly in terms of his own wages, or the budget he'd require, but who has had success before (and Robins record with Rotherham and Barnsley is good enough for me) but I'm equally happy with the safe but potentially costly and limited option of Jones.
Cider red Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 Juding by the bep article were waiting on robins getting the forest job, if not hes coming here? i hope thats not the case i would be happy with mcinness but i dont see robins having what it takes to get us from where we are. on the flip side he may have a few big contacts in the game..nani on loan anyone?
RedZepperin Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 I'll repeat: FOR THE VAST MAJORITY WHO DON'T WANT MCINNES You're not repeating, you're rephrasing. In your original post you said "for the vast majority that don't want McInnes.
Nibor Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 I'm still wondering what Red Robin means by "if the main site is right". Have I missed someone confirming that the final two are McInnes and Robins or did I just hear Colin Sexstone say they're "close to confirming the final two"? I'm surprised to hear that Davies and Holloway are "in for the job" too. I'd previously thought that was just the usual made up bullshit but it is now fact I guess?
The Casual Connoisseur Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 I sincerely hope that the board choose a manager that they believe can not only keep us up, but in time push for promotion. Can you honestly say you see Robbins turning us into a top 6 team next season? Personally I can't! McInnes has something that most of the names mentioned don't have, a winning % of over 70% according to one poster (clarification needed), he's confident and that winning mentality and belief is needed in our dressing room and fast. Jones, his managerial CV looks pretty good to me, does he still have the hunger, does he have the stomach for the fight? I am sure we could use his impressive contacts and given a pre season (championship) Id favour him over the other candidates at taking us towards being a top six side. SOD, I would love to have had him take over after Johnson, since then his stock has fallen and along with it so did his Donny team. I don't think he's got what it takes to keep this team up, and if he did next season would be another struggle, as I think it would be under Robbins. My gut feeling at this stage says Robbins or SOD, it also says relegation if either of these 2 are made manager. ........IMHO of course!
SC_Red Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 Correct. "For the vast majority that don't want McInnes..." I'm talking about the majority of those that don't want him, not accusing him of being rubbish. I'm not saying the majority don't want him. It's quite simple when taken in the full context of the whole piece. Honestly, this place gets more and pedantic and anal by the day think you mean "more pedantic and anal"
Super Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 I sincerely hope that the board choose a manager that they believe can not only keep us up, but in time push for promotion. Can you honestly say you see Robbins turning us into a top 6 team next season? Personally I can't! McInnes has something that most of the names mentioned don't have, a winning % of over 70% according to one poster (clarification needed), he's confident and that winning mentality and belief is needed in our dressing room and fast. Jones, his managerial CV looks pretty good to me, does he still have the hunger, does he have the stomach for the fight? I am sure we could use his impressive contacts and given a pre season (championship) Id favour him over the other candidates at taking us towards being a top six side. SOD, I would love to have had him take over after Johnson, since then his stock has fallen and along with it so did his Donny team. I don't think he's got what it takes to keep this team up, and if he did next season would be another struggle, as I think it would be under Robbins. My gut feeling at this stage says Robbins or SOD, it also says relegation if either of these 2 are made manager. ........IMHO of course! Agree 100%
RedZepperin Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 Honestly, this place gets more and pedantic and anal by the day This sentence requires clarification.
Monkeh Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 Jones only spent the budget he was given so why the **** do people say he spent heavily or got the sheep I to debt..... Jones would be a fantastic experience manager with a track record of giving youth a chance getting the best out of what he has got and has q. Eye fOr a player something you can't say about robins who signed Danny Haynes Ffs The scot who has no championship experence is also a great choice he has do e wonders for at Johnson But if you want hoof ball and more of the same go for robins if you want good on the deck football go for the scot or jones
SC_Red Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 Jones only spent the budget he was given so why the **** do people say he spent heavily or got the sheep I to debt..... Jones would be a fantastic experience manager with a track record of giving youth a chance getting the best out of what he has got and has q. Eye fOr a player something you can't say about robins who signed Danny Haynes Ffs The scot who has no championship experence is also a great choice he has do e wonders for at Johnson But if you want hoof ball and more of the same go for robins if you want good on the deck football go for the scot or jones whoever it is I just hope the fans get behind him so he can sort the wasters out in our squad. rather than letting them whinge and hide so another manager gets sacked. they are to blame and they need to know we support the manager and if they dont pull their weight we'll support the manager in kicking them out rather than turn on him if results dont go well.
Esmond Million's Bung Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 Jones only spent the budget he was given so why the **** do people say he spent heavily or got the sheep I to debt..... Jones would be a fantastic experience manager with a track record of giving youth a chance getting the best out of what he has got and has q. Eye fOr a player something you can't say about robins who signed Danny Haynes Ffs The scot who has no championship experence is also a great choice he has do e wonders for at Johnson But if you want hoof ball and more of the same go for robins if you want good on the deck football go for the scot or jones Jones is not either of my top 2 choices, just my opinion. I highlighted your opening sentence because many on here (not you I might add) are ready to accept that about Jones but when it came to GJ it was all his fault, strange really. Part of my Jones problem is there was a lot of very high profile signings:-Hasselbank, Fowler, Whitely, Thompson, Bellamy to name just a few and none of them really achieved much, but certainly earned a lot. I have also highlighted another sentence of yours, all managers have skeletons in their cupboards, Jones signed Jon Parkin FFS.
bearded_red Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 Almost as bad as your misinterpretation of what pretty much everyone has said, unless you can point me to the thread where people have said he is rubbish? For the vast majority that don't want McInnes, it's because they are concerned about 100% lack of experience of managing in this league. In fact, his 100% lack of experience of managing anyone apart from a tiny club in a dreadful league. It's the huge gamble that people are uneasy about, particularly when you look at our record of taking gambles with managers. McInnes might turn out to be the next Alex Ferguson. There again he could be a disaster who taken on something way bigger than he could handle. I'd prefer to narrow the risk and go with a manager who has managed in this division, knows the teams, knows the players, know the styles of play, and has succeeded at some level within in. Well I don't think the original poster was implying that he thought he was a good manager when describing him as the 'cheap and cheerful route', but I may be mistaken.
screech Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 I think it's a safe bet to assume the final two candidates are O'Driscoll and Mark Robins, out of the two I would pick Robins as he has a lot more to prove. Neither would be my first choice but hey ho, you can't have it all.
steviestevieneville Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 If the main site is right The Scottish guy or Robins, sexy says the money is not the issue. :nono: This is unbelievable when you have the likes of Jones,Davies,Holloway in for the job. So city board you are taking the cheap and cheerfull route. MUCH MUCH BETTER avaliable at present. You like everyone else knows nothing so until the new bloke is announced do me a favour and stop ******* moaning
'Orns Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 think you mean "more pedantic and anal" This is the only comment that has made me smile in days in here, well done!
Forza Revolution Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 Robins was appointed as the new manager of Barnsley on 9 September 2009, succeeding Simon Davey. After his first game in charge, the Championship club sat at the bottom of the table looking likely candidates for relegation. By Christmas, Robins had taken them a full nine points clear of the relegation zone and on a run of eight games unbeaten. This was followed by a poor spell towards the end of the season, and Barnsley finished 18th in the table. Robins resigned from his job at the end of the 2010-11 season, because of differences with the board personally - no thanks
Guest Steve Galliers for England Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 I sincerely hope that the board choose a manager that they believe can not only keep us up, but in time push for promotion. Can you honestly say you see Robbins turning us into a top 6 team next season? Personally I can't! McInnes has something that most of the names mentioned don't have, a winning % of over 70% according to one poster (clarification needed), he's confident and that winning mentality and belief is needed in our dressing room and fast. Jones, his managerial CV looks pretty good to me, does he still have the hunger, does he have the stomach for the fight? I am sure we could use his impressive contacts and given a pre season (championship) Id favour him over the other candidates at taking us towards being a top six side. SOD, I would love to have had him take over after Johnson, since then his stock has fallen and along with it so did his Donny team. I don't think he's got what it takes to keep this team up, and if he did next season would be another struggle, as I think it would be under Robbins. My gut feeling at this stage says Robbins or SOD, it also says relegation if either of these 2 are made manager. ........IMHO of course! __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ Like this and agree, except can't imagine the new appointment (who ever he/she is)taking us down; we'd be looking for more than just a new manager in May.
Somerset Red Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 Are you glad about that? I would be! Would be a shame to let that one pass by!
Guest CIDERARMY1986 Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 Look as long as the new man can do the job and get us playing decent football again then i dont care who is in charge as we should all be getting behind the guy and we can also do that by making Ashton Gate a fortress again and make teams think shite we have city and not be looking forward to playing us so i say who ever it is Mcinnes, Robins, Odrisscoll Jones we should get right behind the team and get the new man and lift the team out of dooms ville and then judge them on next season when we r still playing Championship football so I say COYR!!!!!!
Red Robin Posted October 13, 2011 Author Posted October 13, 2011 Jones only spent the budget he was given so why the **** do people say he spent heavily or got the sheep I to debt..... Jones would be a fantastic experience manager with a track record of giving youth a chance getting the best out of what he has got and has q. Eye fOr a player something you can't say about robins who signed Danny Haynes Ffs The scot who has no championship experence is also a great choice he has do e wonders for at Johnson But if you want hoof ball and more of the same go for robins if you want good on the deck football go for the scot or jones Monkeh. Dave jones record against record is by far the best option. SOD was my choice when coppell got the job.I think he would do a cracking job,but it will take time to put his style in place. The one thing in his favour he has plenty of time to sort it out. If Dave Jones does not get the job,then SOD has to be the man for the job. His donny side played some very attractive and entertaining football when he had his squad fully fit. None of us are going to change who the board picks,however we can all make are feelings known.
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.