Redcliffe 78 Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 No new manager until after the weekend confirmed by Sexstone, latest tweet from Beanhead.
Riaz Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 WHAT?! DISGRACE! Why havent we appointed Carlo Ancellotti yet?!
havanatopia Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 No new manager until after the weekend confirmed by Sexstone, latest tweet from Beanhead. He's just nicking stories now from the EP. Shameful.
havanatopia Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 This would imply one of Robins and Mcinnes. You take that from the wording of the EP article? In my opinion if we believe about 50% of what we read in the news papers we are probably not far off 100% of the truth.
Rocky Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 WHAT?! DISGRACE! Why havent we appointed Carlo Ancellotti yet?!
winterbournered Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 This would imply one of Robins and Mcinnes. Can see why it would imply Mcinnes with the approach to St Johnstone and all, but Robins could be employed now unless of course he's waiting on Forest job!!!! I'm edging towards Mcinnes!!!
Guest Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 I thought our manager was going to be announced on Last Weekend, Monday, Wednesday according to those ITK
Guest del ete Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 I thought our manager was going to be announced on Last Weekend, Monday, Wednesday according to those ITK I have it on good authority that we will appoint someone next week
havanatopia Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 This would imply one of Robins and Mcinnes. Can see why it would imply Mcinnes with the approach to St Johnstone and all, but Robins could be employed now unless of course he's waiting on Forest job!!!! I'm edging towards Mcinnes!!! What he's gonna be unveiled as the new Lincoln boss then?
Pete1975Legend Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 This was followed with #BristolCity both the candidates share the club's vision for the future utilising the Academy is part of the requirements. So no money then?
havanatopia Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 Im not from Bristol so have no idea what the EP has said. The likes of Jones, O'Driscoll and other unemployed managers (bar Robins) wouldnt have needed a 2 week process to employ. The fact that Mcinnes would require compo would take up time, as would waiting on Robins if he was angling for the Forest job. No need to be in Brizzle to read the EP bangers... internet is marvellous.. check this link:- http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/story-13542494-detail/story.html?
havanatopia Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 This was followed with #BristolCity both the candidates share the club's vision for the future utilising the Academy is part of the requirements. So no money then? What exactly do you mean by that? If you are being facetious you should perhaps consider the Academy does not come cheap, around 500k a year when i read an article on the official site about 4 years ago so no doubt thats gone up. A new training facility that cost millions partly for their benefit and, bear in mind, it is designed to bring quality home grown players through the ranks with a possible sell on for profit.. its a business that absolutely makes perfect and potentially very profitable sense. But certainly it is NOT a cheap option to keep it going.
TRL Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 This was followed with #BristolCity both the candidates share the club's vision for the future utilising the Academy is part of the requirements. So no money then? Oh ffs they real that line out with every appointment since they opened that Damn academy. It becomes pretty clear to the new manager that our academy is shite at producing worthwhile first teamers. So any reference to it from the board or manager I take with a huge pinch of salt! It is a massive white elephant that has produced a couple of regular first teamers and one decent sale.. cotterill
Avalonred Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 "It's ok Mr Robins, we'll wait to see if you get the job at one of our rival Championship clubs before we formally offer you the job here, we like to be used as the second-best option and there really are no other managers available"
CodeRed Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 Im not from Bristol so have no idea what the EP has said. The likes of Jones, O'Driscoll and other unemployed managers (bar Robins) wouldnt have needed a 2 week process to employ. The fact that Mcinnes would require compo would take up time, as would waiting on Robins if he was angling for the Forest job. O'Driscoll now odds-on on SkyBet - McInnes and Robins have drifted out in the betting. Just to complicate it further there are strong rumours that Coventy's Andy Thorn is considering his position & may go this weekend, so presumably Jones/SOD/McInnes/Boothroyd/Cotterill etc etc will all be linked to the Ricoh as well! I did read on a Cardiff newspaper site that Dave Jones was on £750K pa at Cardiff and that Malky McKay is being paid £250K , maybe DJ's wage demand is pushing us towards Robins/McInnes/SOD as the front runners as I doubt any of that 3 would command as much salary as Jones. It does look like Cotterill is going to join Forest by the w/e - so our board can have their pick of the others now. CR
SJC Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 It seems a little coincidental that O'Driscoll's odds plummet shortly before it's announced the club have found their final two . . . . O'Driscoll and ?
Super Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 It seems a little coincidental that O'Driscoll's odds plummet shortly before it's announced the club have found their final two . . . . O'Driscoll and ? Robins i expect.
rockin-robin Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 This was followed with #BristolCity both the candidates share the club's vision for the future utilising the Academy is part of the requirements. So no money then? where is this comment, has it been deleted?
Riaz Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 where is this comment, has it been deleted? BBC Bristol tweeted it. Presumably they are at the thursday press conference. I expect Sextoy will confim it on player shortly.
chipdawg Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 I can't imagine it's Robins AND O'Driscoll; if we've got 2 candidates with little to choose between them, why would we be letting them drag it out for so long in the hope of getting the Forest job, negotiations over terms, etc. I'm pretty convinced our first choice is currently employed
Riaz Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 I can't imagine it's Robins AND O'Driscoll; if we've got 2 candidates with little to choose between them, why would we be letting them drag it out for so long in the hope of getting the Forest job, negotiations over terms, etc. I'm pretty convinced our first choice is currently employed Hope so. All things considered, the best candidate is employed, so hope you are right.
rockin-robin Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 BBC Bristol tweeted it. Presumably they are at the thursday press conference. I expect Sextoy will confim it on player shortly. Thanks, just found it!
WhistleHappy Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 It seems a little coincidental that O'Driscoll's odds plummet shortly before it's announced the club have found their final two . . . . O'Driscoll and ? O'Driscoll & Delboy ? ...sounds like we got a fools & horses showdown!
Riaz Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 in your opinion... Personally I will be extremely disappointed if it Mcinnes Of course, in my opinion.... The only thing working against him is that he's not a "big name" Which for us, I believe is better. Cant see any big names that are better, of course, in my opinion.
TRL Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 O'Driscoll & Delboy ? ...sounds like we got a fools & horses showdown! Just drop the O' Mcinnes/ del could be in trouble if he brings his brother!
Super Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 "Close" to getting the final 2 They won't be in the stands Saturday No-ones been offered the job Hope to be finalised Monday/Tuesday great so he might not be in for the Palce game either then.
SJC Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 They won't be in the stands Saturday If I was Martin O'Neil I'd buy a ticket on Saturday just for the hell of it.
glynriley Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 in your opinion... Personally I will be extremely disappointed if it Mcinnes Who does it have to be to tempt you back then Matty?? I assume you're still not going ?
slartibartfast Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 "Close" to getting the final 2 They won't be in the stands Saturday No-ones been offered the job Hope to be finalised Monday/Tuesday Why WOULDN'T any candidate be at the ground on Sat? Perfect opportunity to see the team, get a feel for the place AND look keen!
Dolman Block B Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 If I was Martin O'Neil I'd buy a ticket on Saturday just for the hell of it. Now that would be funny. Imagine our lot!!!!!
arpaul Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 I can't imagine it's Robins AND O'Driscoll; if we've got 2 candidates with little to choose between them, why would we be letting them drag it out for so long in the hope of getting the Forest job, negotiations over terms, etc. I'm pretty convinced our first choice is currently employed Maybe, it's not the candidates stalling? What if the board members and our majority shareholder were split in their decision making?
Bar BS3 Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 great so he might not be in for the Palce game either then. They won't be. No idea who it is - but they will not be appointed (or at least take charge of the team) until after the Palace game.
Guest Frome Red Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 Because there managing ST Johnstone ? It will be interesting to see if Mcinnes is or is not in charge of St Johnstone on Saturday or if he is what he says in his interview .......
Riaz Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 You're using the words "big name" as if that's the reason. Try using the word "experienced" We will be more familiar with experienced managers in this division because of that - they are experienced in this division. Doesn't make them big name, just more familiar to us. I don't see a clamour of Prem clubs queuing up for Davies and Jones. Hardly big names either of them. McInnes and Robins have experience, just not as much - that should'nt be used against them - the fact that both are at the beginning of their careers.
SC_Red Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 Sexton said they will be done by Tuesday, possibly Monday. Who to say if the new man was in place on Monday he wouldnt want to take the reigns at Palace? if that happens I expect it would be like when Johnson came in before we played Brentford. attend the game but dont get too involved.
bcfcchris2016 Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 Didn't Gary Johnson manager city against Brentford a day or 2 after he was appointed manager ? I think he did So it has happened
Brizzle Jordan Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 I find it funny how people think if you haven't managed in the championship you shouldn't be our manager. A good manager is a good manager and if he can restore some steel and belief to our team we will do well IMO.
cheese Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 I find it funny how people think if you haven't managed in the championship you shouldn't be our manager. A good manager is a good manager and if he can restore some steel and belief to our team we will do well IMO. But surely much better to have an understanding of our league and the players within it.
SC_Red Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 I find it funny how people think if you haven't managed in the championship you shouldn't be our manager. A good manager is a good manager and if he can restore some steel and belief to our team we will do well IMO. exactly. johnson had very little experience of league 1 (6 games or so) but people didnt use his lack of experience in the league we were in as a reason not to take him on or suggest he couldnt manage at that level. well one did but he was a ******* idiot
BCAGFC Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 Robins, I agree. McInnes? None. Zero in this league. Zero outside of one tiny team in the SPL. It's a bigger gamble than we should be taking in our position. In my opinion. He has played at this level with WBA & Millwall. If you think he doesn't know anything about our level of football, then you are being very naive. BCAGFC
SC_Red Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 But surely much better to have an understanding of our league and the players within it. whats to understand? its 11 blokes against another 11 blokes. as Darren Ferguson said. management is almost entirely managing egos. we need a man who can do that. whether he knows who plays on the left wing for millwall isnt really a big issue
Brizzle Jordan Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 Were talking about football people.. Derek McInnes and Mark Robins are obviously going to know championship players and the division.. The championship is a massive division which has alot of coverage so to think they wont know the league or the players in the league is ridiculous.
cheese Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 So no need for someone with ANY football experience then. Let's get a great motivator like Clive Woodward perhaps. Wait, oh hang on Southampton tried that and it didn't work cos of his lack of football experience!
bearded_red Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 Didn't Gary Johnson manager city against Brentford a day or 2 after he was appointed manager ? I think he did So it has happened If I remember correctly Johnson was appointed on the Friday afternoon. The original plan was then for him to sit in the stand and watch whilst Millen took control of the game, but when they arrived at Griffin Park Johnson decided that he wouldn't be able to do this and therefore just took control of the game. I think he then remarked that he was in control as we won, but would have said Millen was in charge had we lost. Classic GJ! I'm quite interested as to who Wigley picks in goal, up front and what he does in regards to Cisse on Saturday.
Brizzle Jordan Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 So no need for someone with ANY football experience then. Let's get a great motivator like Clive Woodward perhaps. Wait, oh hang on Southampton tried that and it didn't work cos of his lack of football experience! These people have played at a good level and have been involved with fairly big clubs at stages during their careers.
pride of the west Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 If mcinnes is as good as we are led to believe then im sure he would have studied the championship for the last couple of yrs. Its always gonna be his next step so if hes worth his salt hed know all about it.
Bar BS3 Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 So no need for someone with ANY football experience then. Let's get a great motivator like Clive Woodward perhaps. Wait, oh hang on Southampton tried that and it didn't work cos of his lack of football experience! I think that is just being pedantic. What people are saying and rightly IMO, is the new man doesn't HAVE to have vast experience of managing in the NPC to be a good contender for the job. ANY manager will be a gamble - infact if we had the option of taking Alex Ferguson on as manager - would it really work that well, bearing in mind the huge drop in resources that he would have to work with? You cant guarantee anything with a new managerial appointment - all we can do is grill them thoroughly in interview, listen to their visions, aspirations and methods and appoint the man that shares a similar goal to ourselves. After that, as once famously quoted by someone (can't remember who) "to be a good manager, you need to be a lucky manager" - FACT. No appointment will be everyone's ideal, but everyone should give whoever it is their support and reasonable patience and then judge based on the job that they do - not what they might or might not have done in the past. Reffering back to Fergie, how many Utd fans mumbled on about him having limited knowledge of the English game when UTD took a punt on him? Especially after a less than impressive start that could ironically have led to him being kept in his job by the very ma that we are about to appoint as manager IMO.
054123 Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 <br />Didn't Gary Johnson manager city against Brentford a day or 2 after he was appointed manager ? I think he did<br /><br />So it has happened<br /> He did, i think Luke Wilshere may have a scored a free kick? That was a cracking day out. I took a great picture of a load of us at the back, stood on the raised concrete base of the floodlight, with some hanging off the legs. I remember thinking that this may have been one of the last times this image would be witnessed in football. For all of the Premier Leagues money, foreign stars and plastic bowls, it is the one image that reminds me why i once loved football so much just how content i felt on that day, on that terrace. For all my love of Bristol City, football as a game and experience is something i don't have a lot of time for.
Bar BS3 Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 Sexton said they will be done by Tuesday, possibly Monday. Who to say if the new man was in place on Monday he wouldnt want to take the reigns at Palace? Just passing on what i've been told. He may well be appointed on Monday/Tuesday, but i wouldn't expect him to be able to implement too much into the team in time for Tuesday nights game, so his first real effective fixture would be the following game. I'm never sure of the best time to announce a new manager. The day before a game can put unrealistic expectaions of immediate change on their shoulders, but, the flip side is the feel good and must impress the new boss factor that it should instill into the players. We shall see. In the meantime I will continue to let people know what little bits I might hear from the people that I know, who I can assure you are much closer to the people ITK than most of the tripe that gets posted on here! - If that is ok with you, of course?!
BCAGFC Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 If you think playing and managing are the same thing you are very wrong. It also didn't worry WBA ( a much bigger club than us) too much when they were looking for a new manager, McInnes was VERY close to getting the job before Di Matteo. Jones hasn't got the stomach/bottle for a fight (just like Coppell), we need an up & coming manager with passion/determination. BCAGFC
'Orns Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 It also didn't worry WBA ( a much bigger club than us) too much when they were looking for a new manager, McInnes was VERY close to getting the job before Di Matteo. Jones hasn't got the stomach/bottle for a fight (just like Coppell), we need an up & coming manager with passion/determination. BCAGFC Really? I think he's fought a massive fight - it was nothing to do with football though
glynriley Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 I think that is just being pedantic. What people are saying and rightly IMO, is the new man doesn't HAVE to have vast experience of managing in the NPC to be a good contender for the job. ANY manager will be a gamble - infact if we had the option of taking Alex Ferguson on as manager - would it really work that well, bearing in mind the huge drop in resources that he would have to work with? You cant guarantee anything with a new managerial appointment - all we can do is grill them thoroughly in interview, listen to their visions, aspirations and methods and appoint the man that shares a similar goal to ourselves. After that, as once famously quoted by someone (can't remember who) "to be a good manager, you need to be a lucky manager" - FACT. No appointment will be everyone's ideal, but everyone should give whoever it is their support and reasonable patience and then judge based on the job that they do - not what they might or might not have done in the past. Reffering back to Fergie, how many Utd fans mumbled on about him having limited knowledge of the English game when UTD took a punt on him? Especially after a less than impressive start that could ironically have led to him being kept in his job by the very ma that we are about to appoint as manager IMO. Spot on mate , Dean Saunders has no experience at this level but has made a decent start. He also seems to be able to attract decent players.
Bar BS3 Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 Spot on mate , Dean Saunders has no experience at this level but has made a decent start. He also seems to be able to attract decent players. A very good example indeed. You just know that had he been liked with us, prior to Donny making a change - the overwhelming consensus (from me included) would have been a very negative. It is of course still early days for him, but his initial impact just goes to show....
Roger Red Hat Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 A very good example indeed. You just know that had he been liked with us, prior to Donny making a change - the overwhelming consensus (from me included) would have been a very negative. It is of course still early days for him, but his initial impact just goes to show.... Potentially 'new manager syndrome'?
beaverface Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 He did, i think Luke Wilshere may have a scored a free kick? That was a cracking day out. I took a great picture of a load of us at the back, stood on the raised concrete base of the floodlight, with some hanging off the legs. I remember thinking that this may have been one of the last times this image would be witnessed in football. For all of the Premier Leagues money, foreign stars and plastic bowls, it is the one image that reminds me why i once loved football so much just how content i felt on that day, on that terrace. For all my love of Bristol City, football as a game and experience is something i don't have a lot of time for. I've had quite a few cracking days at Griffin Park. It's not the best ground in the World, but on it's day you can get a right old atmosphere going. I particulary liked the game when Tommy Doc was in the team (may have been his debut/or first goal for us) during the John Ward promotion season, we battered Brentford that day and I remember being carried all over the terracing after each goal was scored (something like 4-1 I think). City fans had the doubled tiered stand.
bearded_red Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 I've had quite a few cracking days at Griffin Park. It's not the best ground in the World, but on it's day you can get a right old atmosphere going. I particulary liked the game when Tommy Doc was in the team (may have been his debut/or first goal for us) during the John Ward promotion season, we battered Brentford that day and I remember being carried all over the terracing after each goal was scored (something like 4-1 I think). City fans had the doubled tiered stand. On the other hand, there was the Play-off semi's loss in 97 and the FA cup replay we lost on penalties. Not such happy memories!
beaverface Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 On the other hand, there was the Play-off semi's loss in 97 and the FA cup replay we lost on penalties. Not such happy memories! Yep you're not wrong there, or the 5-1 loss when Denis Smith was in charge. We had Andy Cole and Jacki playing us, but unfortunately we also had the likes of David Thompson, Marvin Harriet and Gus Caesar !!!
Rob k Posted October 13, 2011 Posted October 13, 2011 I've had quite a few cracking days at Griffin Park. It's not the best ground in the World, but on it's day you can get a right old atmosphere going. I particulary liked the game when Tommy Doc was in the team (may have been his debut/or first goal for us) during the John Ward promotion season, we battered Brentford that day and I remember being carried all over the terracing after each goal was scored (something like 4-1 I think). City fans had the doubled tiered stand. Torpey with 2 that day?? Some of my best away days have come at brentford!! I
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