Red Robin Posted October 15, 2011 Posted October 15, 2011 As a seasoned fan of 30 years plus. Please please make the right decision regards the next appointment. We the fans can only look on,regards your appointment. Do you really think a manager from a wee scotish team playing in front of 2500 to 3000 fans is right for the club. The guy has no championship experiance. Do you think a manager who has experience at the millers and tykes is experienced enough to take us forward. This is a big decision, think hard and long regards you decision. We await your decision with interest. The chairman says 60 applied,he said a high calibre applied for the job,is macminnis and robins the best of the bunch that applied?
!james Posted October 15, 2011 Posted October 15, 2011 Board, please ignore this thread, actually ignore this forum
Brizzle Jordan Posted October 15, 2011 Posted October 15, 2011 Board, I wouldn't bother. This. McInnes has got an awful lot of City fans excited apart from the odd fans who only want big names.
glynriley Posted October 15, 2011 Posted October 15, 2011 As a seasoned fan of 30 years plus. Please please make the right decision regards the next appointment. We the fans can only look on,regards your appointment. Do you really think a manager from a wee scotish team playing in front of 2500 to 3000 fans is right for the club. Do you think a manager who has experience at the millers and tykes is experienced enough to take us forward. This is a big decision, think hard and long regards you decision. We await your decision with interest. The chairman says 60 applied,he said a high calibre applied for the job,is mcninnis and robins the best of the bunch. With what.. Rosemary , Thyme , Mint , Oregano ???
Guest Liverpool 0 Bristol City 1 Posted October 15, 2011 Posted October 15, 2011 I heard the board are simply pulling names out of a hat.
formerly known as ivan Posted October 15, 2011 Posted October 15, 2011 Getting boring now! How many new posts about this do there need to be?! And if the board does read this I'm sure you will get a personal message of thanks from them for the sound advice that they have probably discussed a million times and more!
Guest citytype Posted October 15, 2011 Posted October 15, 2011 As a seasoned fan of 30 years plus. Please please make the right decision regards the next appointment. We the fans can only look on,regards your appointment. Do you really think a manager from a wee scotish team playing in front of 2500 to 3000 fans is right for the club. The guy has no championship experiance. Do you think a manager who has experience at the millers and tykes is experienced enough to take us forward. This is a big decision, think hard and long regards you decision. We await your decision with interest. The chairman says 60 applied,he said a high calibre applied for the job,is macminnis and robins the best of the bunch that applied? This forum is becoming a joke, I have been on club forums over the last week finding out about some of the published candidates and people are commenting on how arrogant we are in our views on what we deserve as a "big time championship squad". wake up! there is no queue outside Ashton gate, Morinho, Wenger, Guardiola are not waiting by the phone for a call from Sexstone.
Northern Red Posted October 15, 2011 Posted October 15, 2011 As a seasoned fan of 30 years plus. Please please make the right decision regards the next appointment. We the fans can only look on,regards your appointment. Do you really think a manager from a wee scotish team playing in front of 2500 to 3000 fans is right for the club. The guy has no championship experiance. Do you think a manager who has experience at the millers and tykes is experienced enough to take us forward. This is a big decision, think hard and long regards you decision. We await your decision with interest. The chairman says 60 applied,he said a high calibre applied for the job,is macminnis and robins the best of the bunch that applied? Didn't you do this thread yesterday? And if you're going to whinge about our potential new boss, at least have the decency to get his name right.
Brizzle Jordan Posted October 15, 2011 Posted October 15, 2011 Why do these fans who believe we can attract big names and we should only look at big names have to make us a laughing stock. People who thought we could attract Martin O'Neill.. wake up and smell the coffee.
glynriley Posted October 15, 2011 Posted October 15, 2011 Didn't you do this thread yesterday? And if you're going to whinge about our potential new boss, at least have the decency to get his name right. Maybe he knows of a third candidate?
David Brent Posted October 15, 2011 Posted October 15, 2011 I was worried the board would make the wrong decision so cheers for this. I can go to bed without my Horlicks now.
GrahamC Posted October 15, 2011 Posted October 15, 2011 As a seasoned fan of 30 years plus. Please please make the right decision regards the next appointment. We the fans can only look on,regards your appointment. Do you really think a manager from a wee scotish team playing in front of 2500 to 3000 fans is right for the club. The guy has no championship experiance. Do you think a manager who has experience at the millers and tykes is experienced enough to take us forward. This is a big decision, think hard and long regards you decision. We await your decision with interest. The chairman says 60 applied,he said a high calibre applied for the job,is macminnis and robins the best of the bunch that applied? To be fair I don't want macminnis appointed, either. But that's mainly because I have no idea who he is.
Mr Gow Posted October 15, 2011 Posted October 15, 2011 1, look at wiki 2, Look at what the saints say fans about him 3, Listen to what Owen Coyle says about him 4, Take note of what Nigel Spackman said about him 5, Take note of the clubs he has captained both north and south (leadership qualities) 6, Take note of his age and his drive There you go 6 of the best
TRL Posted October 15, 2011 Posted October 15, 2011 1, look at wiki 2, Look at what the saints fans about him 3, Listen to what Owen Coyle says about him 4, Take note of what Nigel Spackman said about him 5, Take note of the clubs he has captained both north and south (leadership qualities) 6, Take note of his age and his drive There you go 6 of the best Are you sure? i've looked up Macinnes and found diddly squat about the guy. I don't know what the board are thinking about!
SC_Red Posted October 15, 2011 Posted October 15, 2011 Are you sure? i've looked up Macinnes and found diddly squat about the guy. I don't know what the board are thinking about! what about mcminnis?
TRL Posted October 15, 2011 Posted October 15, 2011 what about mcminnis? Damn, thats why. wait a minute, i'll google that now
TRL Posted October 15, 2011 Posted October 15, 2011 Damn, thats why. wait a minute, i'll google that now WTF are our board playing at, there is no record of this guy managing either!!! What the hell is going on!
Kibs Posted October 15, 2011 Posted October 15, 2011 The chairman says 60 applied,he said a high calibre applied for the job,is macminnis and robins the best of the bunch that applied? Of course they are the best of the bunch. They are hardly going to filter at all the good ones and pick the 2 worst applicants are they you tool. Board, please ignore the opening post. It's a shocker.
glynriley Posted October 15, 2011 Posted October 15, 2011 what about mcminnis? Was he a wrestler in the 70's? World of sport with Dickie Davies , magic !!
Mr Gow Posted October 15, 2011 Posted October 15, 2011 The difference in this appointment as oposed to the Millen appointment is that the board have the support of a lot of City fans. Im not so sure i rememeber anyone who was wanting Millen to be manager. The advantage to the board this time is,if Del turns out to be a crappy appointment,we just cant blame the board can we
Esmond Million's Bung Posted October 15, 2011 Posted October 15, 2011 The difference in this appointment as oposed to the Millen appointment is that the board have the support of a lot of City fans. Im not so sure i rememeber anyone who was wanting Millen to be manager. The advantage to the board this time is,if Del turns out to be a crappy appointment,we just cant blame the board can we Just had 12 bottles of cider and 2 bottles of eau de vie delivered from the cider makers.
glynriley Posted October 15, 2011 Posted October 15, 2011 Just had 12 bottles of cider and 2 bottles of eau de vie delivered from the cider makers. Costs less than a season ticket I guess !
Esmond Million's Bung Posted October 15, 2011 Posted October 15, 2011 Costs less than a season ticket I guess ! and more enjoyable than the past 3 years.
bristol red Posted October 15, 2011 Posted October 15, 2011 I have been a supporter of Bristol City for over 25 years and whilst I fully hope to be proven wrong, I have severe reservations regarding the likely appointment of either McInness or Robins. Was it not promised by the board that the new appointment would be someone with relevent experience? i.e. someone that has been there and done it or at least managed and been successful to some extend at championship level? I thought this absolutely necessary as obviously the board (whether deciding to interfere or not) have no footballing background knowledge. I am sensing we as fans are going to be let down once again. Of course the likes of McInness are interested in the job.... it is likely he will at least treble his wages (which will of course still be substantialy less the likes of Dave Jones or any established championship manager) Stuff the £300,000 compensation to St Johnstone... spend some of the very likely Maynard Jan transfer money (though likely to be considerably less than offered previously) and get a proven manager in!!! How much will relegation cost us!!!! Like I say... really hope I am proven wrong!!!
REDOXO Posted October 15, 2011 Posted October 15, 2011 The advantage to the board this time is,if Del turns out to be a crappy appointment,we just cant blame the board can we YEP!
Hicksy-BCFC Posted October 15, 2011 Posted October 15, 2011 I heard the board are simply pulling names out of a hat. Then looking at who would be the cheapest. We are run by tight-arsed monkeys at best and have been for decades.
Brizzle Jordan Posted October 15, 2011 Posted October 15, 2011 Then looking at who would be the cheapest. We are run by tight-arsed monkeys at best and have been for decades. Were so cheap and stingey were only loosing 12M a year.
Port Said Red Posted October 15, 2011 Posted October 15, 2011 all this experienced man stuff is bollocks, don't you think that Peterborough fans thought they were getting the right man when GJ went to them. He had a great record with us and with yeovil before us. That worked out didn't it? It's working out equally well for Northampton now isn't it? Noone can predict whether a Manager is the perfect appointment based on the amount of knowledge the average fan has.
ciderup Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 As a seasoned fan of 30 years plus. Please please make the right decision regards the next appointment. We the fans can only look on,regards your appointment. Do you really think a manager from a wee scotish team playing in front of 2500 to 3000 fans is right for the club. The guy has no championship experiance. Do you think a manager who has experience at the millers and tykes is experienced enough to take us forward. This is a big decision, think hard and long regards you decision. We await your decision with interest. The chairman says 60 applied,he said a high calibre applied for the job,is macminnis and robins the best of the bunch that applied? You're on your own fella! You certainly don't represent my feelings on the matter (35 years following City FWIW). I am quite excited by the potential appointment of Derek McInnes after doing a fair bit of research.
Hicksy-BCFC Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 You're on your own fella! You certainly don't represent my feelings on the matter (35 years following City FWIW). I am quite excited by the potential appointment of Derek McInnes after doing a fair bit of research. Whilst he is going a bit far in the negativity - I share his concern about bringing in an unproven Scot who has managed a tinpot club in the SPL.
Red-Robbo Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 The difference in this appointment as oposed to the Millen appointment is that the board have the support of a lot of City fans. Im not so sure i rememeber anyone who was wanting Millen to be manager. Robbo-Red?
red as fcuk Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 I think getting Del here is still in the balance, and is by no means a done deal, he is obviously extremely well regarded by those who actually know anything about him. He knows its only a matter of time before an actual big club (not one with a large amount of unrealistic, deluded fans, who seem to think they somehow deserve success) snaps him up! I wish people would stop posting all this shit, as though they represent all City fans, I, like many others would be absolutely delighted if we appoint such a promising, proven young manager. So board, please read this, you have my, and many others full support.
Kala Taro Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 Dear The Board As a City supporter since 1971 i.e. 40 years I, quite obviously, trump the OP in the 'I'm your bestest fan' stakes. On that basis could you please conduct your interviews with a view to appointing the best man for the job on the following criteria: A) Who you believe can get the club moving out of the relegation zone and keep them out of it until seasons end. B) Who you feel, after achieving A), can direct the club to build on that success in seasons to come. C) Who you, as far as can be ascertained, believe can do A) and B) without wasting pots of money signing players who either disappear from view for large chunks of their contract or are signed in positions where the need is not greatest. D) Who will, in your view, play football in the manner to which all managers should aspire to and in which manner most City fans would prefer their team played. If that is not possible with the immediate concerns of being bottom of the NPC then, with a long term view in mind, who will eventually be able to deliver this. E) Who you believe is capable of turning the club around with the minimum of fuss and the maximum of results, thereby making Ashton Gate a more enjoyable experience for everyone. If the person you feel is the best suited to the job is also the most expensive option then so be it. If said person is not the most expensive option but, nevertheless, represents our clubs best chances of fulfilling A) to E) above then likewise, so be it. We trust that not only will you take a hard, pragmatic approach to this appointment but that you will also make the appointment as fans/supporters of BCFC. Wolf J. Flywheel Attorney-at-Law
Milo Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 Was it not promised by the board that the new appointment would be someone with relevent experience? i.e. someone that has been there and done it or at least managed and been successful to some extend at championship level? I thought this absolutely necessary as obviously the board (whether deciding to interfere or not) have no footballing background knowledge. If you check back on what was promised it was "management experience, which by definition doesn't necessarily mean long experience". In my opinion this was a reference to not wishing to repeat the Tinnion and Millen appointments and make sure that the appointment has at least cut his teeth as a manager with a degree of success already. What they also promised was an appointment of someone with drive, energy and ambition and I personally feel that these qualities are every bit as important as some management experience. If McInnes is appointed he can tell the squad that he has experience of leading a team to promotion out of the Championship having captained WBA to promotion to the Premier League in 2002. I accept that this is not the same as managing in the Championship but it's still relevant experience.
rednotblue Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 Whilst he is going a bit far in the negativity - I share his concern about bringing in an unproven Scot who has managed a tinpot club in the SPL. But as he is coming to manage a tinpot club from Brizzle he should fit right in.
Brizzle Jordan Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 People writing him off already. What a joke.. They all seem so certain Dave Jones and Billy Davies would of done such good jobs.. Jones obviously didn't impress or was like Billy Davies and just wasn't interested!
Hicksy-BCFC Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 But as he is coming to manage a tinpot club from Brizzle he should fit right in. We are run as a tinpot club - we have the potential to be so much more. Unfortunately 'settling' instead of reaching has been our problem for too long. Why we end up with people like Tinnion, Millen and Lumsden in charge.
eric04 Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 People writing him off already. What a joke.. They all seem so certain Dave Jones and Billy Davies would of done such good jobs.. Jones obviously didn't impress or was like Billy Davies and just wasn't interested! The problem with Dave Jones is that he's not a tracksuit manager. He wants an entourage of coaches to do that for him. It seems our board want a more dynamic hands-on type of manager, rather than an office based one.
Red Robin Posted October 16, 2011 Author Posted October 16, 2011 Why do these fans who believe we can attract big names and we should only look at big names have to make us a laughing stock. People who thought we could attract Martin O'Neill.. wake up and smell the coffee. We are bottom of the championship at the moment,think this is making us the laughing stock at the moment. Never never thought o'neill would have come here. However a jones or SOD I'm sure would have been interested. We all have a opinion,I would of thought there are better candidates available, and out of work at present. I have spoke with many city faithful over the couple of weeks,asking the question regards the two short listed. No one I have spoken too, is excited by the two names mentioned. As said in a previous topic are fans on here seem easy to please regards the next manager. I hope these two can do the business,but they are not the experienced championship managers sexton talked about. difference of opinion
exAtyeoMax Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 Dear The Board As a City supporter since 1971 i.e. 40 years I, quite obviously, trump the OP in the 'I'm your bestest fan' stakes. On that basis could you please conduct your interviews with a view to appointing the best man for the job on the following criteria: A) Who you believe can get the club moving out of the relegation zone and keep them out of it until seasons end. B) Who you feel, after achieving A), can direct the club to build on that success in seasons to come. C) Who you, as far as can be ascertained, believe can do A) and B) without wasting pots of money signing players who either disappear from view for large chunks of their contract or are signed in positions where the need is not greatest. D) Who will, in your view, play football in the manner to which all managers should aspire to and in which manner most City fans would prefer their team played. If that is not possible with the immediate concerns of being bottom of the NPC then, with a long term view in mind, who will eventually be able to deliver this. E) Who you believe is capable of turning the club around with the minimum of fuss and the maximum of results, thereby making Ashton Gate a more enjoyable experience for everyone. If the person you feel is the best suited to the job is also the most expensive option then so be it. If said person is not the most expensive option but, nevertheless, represents our clubs best chances of fulfilling A) to E) above then likewise, so be it. We trust that not only will you take a hard, pragmatic approach to this appointment but that you will also make the appointment as fans/supporters of BCFC. Wolf J. Flywheel Attorney-at-Law I'm sure they will. Everyone has differing opinions, about what this club needs. I think the fact that the candidates have actually managed teams if the most important factor - and both seem to have to some degree of success. Every candidate is a risk, even a top earner with years of experience.
Roger Red Hat Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 I have spoke with many city faithful How many? I've actually spokeN to many and they're quite excited at having a manager with the obvious drive of DM. Also, just because you constantly post the same thing, it doesn't mean you represent the contributors to this forum.
Admin Ian M Posted October 16, 2011 Admin Posted October 16, 2011 I have spoke with many city faithful over the couple of weeks,asking the question regards the two short listed. No one I have spoken too, is excited by the two names mentioned. I suggest you look at the replies you have received on this "discussion forum" & re-evaluate your ridiculous statement.
rednotblue Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 We are run as a tinpot club - we have the potential to be so much more. Unfortunately 'settling' instead of reaching has been our problem for too long. Why we end up with people like Tinnion, Millen and Lumsden in charge. Do we? What potential? We are not a big club and have not got a huge core fanbase. hence our low average attendances even under GJ during our first season in the championship. I actually think under SL we have been well run up until his move to a tax haven. he still makes the big calls but is not there. not a very dynamic situation imo.
Brizzle Jordan Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 Do we? What potential? We are not a big club and have not got a huge core fanbase. hence our low average attendances even under GJ during our first season in the championship. I actually think under SL we have been well run up until his move to a tax haven. he still makes the big calls but is not there. not a very dynamic situation imo. We have loads of potential but that is all it is at the minute.
TRL Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 I suggest you look at the replies you have received on this "discussion forum" & re-evaluate your ridiculous statement. Quite, also many of those who are not happy or excited tend to follow up with who is mcinnes, if people took time to look at football in general rather their very one dimensional view of bristol city and their place in the footballing pyramid then maybe, just maybe they would know a little more. And this quite pathetic clamouring for "big names" in their little worlds would. Just because you have heard of someone does not make them good, likewise because you haven't heard of them doesn't make them crap.
Nibor Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 Dave Jones has the best part of nine months left on his £750k gardening leave. That means we'd have to pay him around £600k just to equal what he earns from sitting on his ass. Then we'd have to pay a salary on top. Dave Jones had a wage bill at Cardiff of over £14m in 2008, and it only went up from there. He still failed to get the club promoted. Now fair play to him, he did pick some academy players and brought through that talent, but every time someone posts about his transfer surplus (ignoring of course all the loan and undisclosed fees) they must acknowledge that with all of that talent in his side he still didn't succeed. His oft touted "Championship experience" is of failing at the final hurdle and doing so very expensively. I am quite happy the board appear not to be falling for a big name and acting in a very short sighted manner like the poster who started this thread has.
Hicksy-BCFC Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 Dave Jones has the best part of nine months left on his £750k gardening leave. That means we'd have to pay him around £600k just to equal what he earns from sitting on his ass. Then we'd have to pay a salary on top. Dave Jones had a wage bill at Cardiff of over £14m in 2008, and it only went up from there. He still failed to get the club promoted. Now fair play to him, he did pick some academy players and brought through that talent, but every time someone posts about his transfer surplus (ignoring of course all the loan and undisclosed fees) they must acknowledge that with all of that talent in his side he still didn't succeed. His oft touted "Championship experience" is of failing at the final hurdle and doing so very expensively. I am quite happy the board appear not to be falling for a big name and acting in a very short sighted manner like the poster who started this thread has. When he joined Cardiff, Dave Jones worked through winding up orders, transfer embargoes and only being able to sign loanees. In fact only Man City paying Bellamy's wages enabled him to bring him in. Jones delivered 3 wembley appearances in 3 seasons - FA Cup final as Championship club to boot. Dave Jones for me is THE CANDIDATE we should be bringing in. Seen it, done it, got the t shirt at this level.
Nibor Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 When he joined Cardiff, Dave Jones worked through winding up orders, transfer embargoes and only being able to sign loanees. In fact only Man City paying Bellamy's wages enabled him to bring him in. Jones delivered 3 wembley appearances in 3 seasons - FA Cup final as Championship club to boot. Dave Jones for me is THE CANDIDATE we should be bringing in. Seen it, done it, got the t shirt at this level. Man City paid 80% of Bellamy's wages. That still left nearly £17k a week for Cardiff to pay. He was far from the only expensive loan signing Jones failed to get enough out of. Jones had one of the most expensive squads and failed to get promoted every time. And he'd cost us about £1m just in the first year. Cloud cuckoo land I'm afraid.
Hicksy-BCFC Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 Man City paid 80% of Bellamy's wages. That still left nearly £17k a week for Cardiff to pay. He was far from the only expensive loan signing Jones failed to get enough out of. Jones had one of the most expensive squads and failed to get promoted every time. And he'd cost us about £1m just in the first year. Cloud cuckoo land I'm afraid. If Steve Lansdown wanted he could afford to bring in Dave Jones. For me, too many clubs shy away from outlaying on the manager, but are prepared to do so to bring a player in. We've spent over 1m or 2m on a player before, we should be prepared to do so on a manager.
TRL Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 If Steve Lansdown wanted he could afford to bring in Dave Jones. For me, too many clubs shy away from outlaying on the manager, but are prepared to do so to bring a player in. We've spent over 1m or 2m on a player before, we should be prepared to do so on a manager. But he has chose not to because Jones is not all that and is on the end of 2 sackings because of failure
SC_Red Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 I hope these two can do the business,but they are not the experienced championship managers sexton talked about. Ok one more time. Show a link to an interview where Sexstone said he wanted an experienced championship manager
BCAGFC Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 This is getting boring now, I know I wittered on about Maynard (I didn't make NUMEROUS threads whinging about things) but this takes the biscuit. I know I have the option of 'Ignoring' Red Robin's posts but I always read in the hope that he eventually will come up with a sensible view of things......NO CHANCE!!! BCAGFC
BCAGFC Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 Whilst he is going a bit far in the negativity - I share his concern about bringing in an unproven Scot who has managed a tinpot club in the SPL. Who would tear us apart at the moment. BCAGFC
hooered Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 Why do these fans who believe we can attract big names and we should only look at big names have to make us a laughing stock. People who thought we could attract Martin O'Neill.. wake up and smell the coffee. This forum shows that many of us have different views on who we would want to be our manager, this is because I for one will admit I am very worried about our position even though we are only 11 games in. Who ever gets the job will have to front up to some players with big ego's in the dressing room who are not performing, yes many on here have given them 9 out of 10 for effort yesterday but thats what they are paid to do, has everyone forgotten that some of these same players gave up against Blackpool and capitulated against Reading. The next manager has to put some steel into this team fast. I will still support this team whatever, as I have done since 1964 but I still remember 1982 it taken 20 years to get over that, if the board get this wrong and we do go down I fear it will be a disaster, forget the new ground, SL's money will not last forever. So I can understand why some on here want the club to pull out all the stops to get the right man to get us out of the danger zone so wake up and smell the coffee the table does not lie even at this stage of the season the board have such an important decision to make lets all hope they get this one right.
Red Robin Posted October 16, 2011 Author Posted October 16, 2011 But he has chose not to because Jones is not all that and is on the end of 2 sackings because of failure So jones get these players to the position their in,so do the players not take the blame for bottleing it come the final hurdle. Oh by the way when have city got near cardiffs perfomances ?
Guest Hanhamreds Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 I would be worried if they actually did read the crap on this forum.
SC_Red Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 So jones get these players to the position their in,so do the players not take the blame for bottleing it come the final hurdle. Oh by the way when have city got near cardiffs perfomances ? so its down to jones that they got there but the players fault that they didnt go up? wheres the interview where Sexstone says we wanted a manager with championship experience by the way? I want to read it
Red Robin Posted October 16, 2011 Author Posted October 16, 2011 so its down to jones that they got there but the players fault that they didnt go up? wheres the interview where Sexstone says we wanted a manager with championship experience by the way? I want to read it If was on one of the tv stations,shortly after Millen was fired.
SC_Red Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 If was on one of the tv stations,shortly after Millen was fired. so its not recorded anywhere of available to see or read. How handy for you. he never said the new manager needed to have championship experience. This is a fact. Prove me wrong or shut up constantly claiming he did
BrizzleRed Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 When he joined Cardiff, Dave Jones worked through winding up orders, transfer embargoes and only being able to sign loanees. In fact only Man City paying Bellamy's wages enabled him to bring him in. Jones delivered 3 wembley appearances in 3 seasons - FA Cup final as Championship club to boot. Dave Jones for me is THE CANDIDATE we should be bringing in. Seen it, done it, got the t shirt at this level. I don't think you've left anyone on this forum with any doubt that this is your opinion! If you were the one shelling out the dosh then you'd be entitled to have whoever you wanted, but you seem very generous in spending SL's hard earned on someone who would cost a fortune and none of your arguments have so far addressed the real question marks over Dave Jones that concern a lot of our more open minded supporters. Congratulations on your persistence in arguing the same points over the last few days. If you haven't done it already, you are unlikely to win any more over to your side of the argument, however long you try. We know all about this forum being for discussion and that's fine, but when that discussion keeps going round and round in circles and new threads keep getting added about the same things, it gets REALLY BORING.
TRL Posted October 16, 2011 Posted October 16, 2011 So jones get these players to the position their in,so do the players not take the blame for bottleing it come the final hurdle. Oh by the way when have city got near cardiffs perfomances ? Yes, just like players didn't do a job for Millen, like players didn't do a job for sod etc etc I could go on, if you fail to carry out your objectives you go. Maybe they failed because Jones chose the wrong tactics, maybe they failed because Jones could not give them the confidence to do their job, maybe they failed because the players were not good enough, maybe they failed because the players couldn't give a Damn. Be sure every single one of these failures lays at the managers door because he picks the players and the tactics.
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