Guest Ranger robin Posted October 17, 2011 Posted October 17, 2011 Since i have started posting on here i thought i would ask the question that know doubt has been done to death and if so I say sorry However if the government were to back all clubs and allow funding for proper transport, relevant and understanding policing, lower ticket costs and open to clubs from England, Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales. At a lower level it would be regionalised unless costs could be worked out but would the Bristol City fans support this and be up for this? If so why If not why?
TRL Posted October 17, 2011 Posted October 17, 2011 Since i have started posting on here i thought i would ask the question that know doubt has been done to death and if so I say sorry However if the government were to back all clubs and allow funding for proper transport, relevant and understanding policing, lower ticket costs and open to clubs from England, Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales. At a lower level it would be regionalised unless costs could be worked out but would the Bristol City fans support this and be up for this? If so why If not why? I think it could be a good thing, bring some genuine interest back into the game and I am sure cross border games would generate far better atmospheres than we currently see. Like you point out costs could be prohibitive and what would it do for the international teams? I am sure We would have to shut down the national teams and become team GB, something I wouldn't be keen on, you have to be able to keep your national identity. In theory a great idea, in reality I'm not so sure
TRL Posted October 17, 2011 Posted October 17, 2011 No but what about a British cup ? That is a great shout, could do away with the League cup which seems to have become a reserve team cup over the last few years
Guest Ranger robin Posted October 17, 2011 Posted October 17, 2011 I think it could be a good thing, bring some genuine interest back into the game and I am sure cross border games would generate far better atmospheres than we currently see. Like you point out costs could be prohibitive and what would it do for the international teams? I am sure We would have to shut down the national teams and become team GB, something I wouldn't be keen on, you have to be able to keep your national identity. In theory a great idea, in reality I'm not so sure Keeping our national identity is not in question mate, for me anyway, I think the way the brits are treated treated in uefa and fifa competitions is nothing short of criminal and we would have to be very very carefull that the morons at uefa didnt screw us but if cardiff and swansea can play in england and there can still be a welsh team I dont see how we cant form other teams into the system. I think football is drifting away from the working man in our respective countries and we need something to get it back.
Guest Ranger robin Posted October 17, 2011 Posted October 17, 2011 No but what about a British cup ? Yip, that would be a start anyway.
Kingswood Robin Posted October 17, 2011 Posted October 17, 2011 I can only see Rangers and Celtic prospering from a British league. For the rest of us it'll be just 2 less places available in the premier league and would St Johnstone and the like want the extra cost of visiting Torquay in British league 3 and vice versa?
Guest Ranger robin Posted October 17, 2011 Posted October 17, 2011 I can only see Rangers and Celtic prospering from a British league. For the rest of us it'll be just 2 less places available in the premier league and would St Johnstone and the like want the extra cost of visiting Torquay in British league 3 and vice versa? More tv money for all, bigger crowds, bigger hospitality etc, i think its a great way to awaken some of the sleeping giants like city
Guest Night84 Posted October 17, 2011 Posted October 17, 2011 I really don't mind the discussion about it but I take exception to the fact that Rangers and Celtic think they'll just waltz into the PL. Start at the bottom if you want in...
havanatopia Posted October 17, 2011 Posted October 17, 2011 British Cup is a good name too, sort of sticks it to that mal-content Salmond. Of course we had the Anglo Scottish Cup which we won so now, invite the Welsh and the Irish, both sides, and we abolish the league cups in each country to allow fixture space and you gain traction for the idea because revenues and interest would certainly increase. A league system for the entire UK is a non-starter unless we wish to invite Platini to consider demanding we form one national team.
Kingswood Robin Posted October 17, 2011 Posted October 17, 2011 More tv money for all, bigger crowds, bigger hospitality etc, i think its a great way to awaken some of the sleeping giants like city I'd love all the above to happen, but I can't see how a British league would really make any difference. Wealth re-distribution (the greedy are getting greedier) would help. Besides, what would Alex Salmond have to say about all this?
Hicksy-BCFC Posted October 17, 2011 Posted October 17, 2011 Nope. No benefit to it whatsoever. Rangers and Celtic would be lower Prem teams - the rest would be dire lower league teams at best. Pointless - let the Jocks keep their shite football and we'll keep the couple of Taffs in our league. PS - What would you do about Northern Ireland??
sglosbcfc Posted October 17, 2011 Posted October 17, 2011 Hicksy son you don't have a clue. You are thinking about Rangers and Celtic's present squads and set up. If tomorrow the Old Firm were allowed into the EPL wealthy backers would be falling over themselves to back them. With gates of 50,000 and 60,000 and SKY TV money the Old Firm would be serious rivals to Man Utd, City, Liverpool etc within 3 seasons. The likes of Hearts, Hibernian and Aberdeen could be decent Championship teams who would knock at the door of the Premier League. Dundee and Dundee United would probably be the only other teams that could be Championship outfits. Ooops and of course St Johnstone would be major players in any British League.
Guest citytype Posted October 17, 2011 Posted October 17, 2011 There are some narrow minded posts on this thread. Watch out ladies, foreign owners of premier league clubs are pushing for no relegation from, or promotion to the EPL! To protect their investment they are prepared to cut the other leagues loose. You may want a British league option to ensure we keep some tv cash and avoid going bust.
Cambridge Batch Red Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 Why Scotland? Why not France? France is nearer to Bristol. Any way this arguement about Scotish football is only being made because Rangers are going to become insolvent. My advice to Scotish clubs - Pay your taxes.
Guest weejohn Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 Since i have started posting on here i thought i would ask the question that know doubt has been done to death and if so I say sorry However if the government were to back all clubs and allow funding for proper transport, relevant and understanding policing, lower ticket costs and open to clubs from England, Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales. At a lower level it would be regionalised unless costs could be worked out but would the Bristol City fans support this and be up for this? If so why If not why? no and neither will anyone else apart from the evil two in Scotland. GET OVER IT, IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN.
Andy Horsman Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 Nope. No benefit to it whatsoever. Rangers and Celtic would be lower Prem teams - the rest would be dire lower league teams at best. Pointless - let the Jocks keep their shite football and we'll keep the couple of Taffs in our league. PS - What would you do about Northern Ireland?? Admit the mighty Linfield FC and sod the rest
RedM Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 I've cleared out a lot of rubbish and embarrising replies from this thread. Can we please keep it civilised now.
chipdawg Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 As has been said by others, the only winners from this would be Rangers and Celtic and possibly Hearts and Aberdeen though I suspect thats debatable. Perhaps Rangers should be trying to sort their own house out before they try and gain admission to someone elses? I see no reason why Scottish football can't be more successful than it currently is but they need to find their own path, not hijack ours. I suspect redistributing the wealth a bit away from Glasgow may help (although I guess that's advice the Premier League could look at...) as there's no reason that the likes of Aberdeen, Hearts, Dundee/Utd, Motherwell couldn't operate competitively in the future. Maybe a move to a franchise system similar to that in rugby union might help?
NiceRed Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 A British Cup would be interesting for the first few years, with some new teams to see and new grounds to visit. After that it would just revert to being like the current League Cup, only with (some) longer journeys.
NiceRed Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 I think the way the brits are treated treated in uefa and fifa competitions is nothing short of criminal and we would have to be very very carefull that the morons at uefa didnt screw us but if cardiff and swansea can play in england and there can still be a welsh team I dont see how we cant form other teams into the system. I think football is drifting away from the working man in our respective countries and we need something to get it back. How have we been screwed by FIFA/UEFA? I thought the general feeling within the intermational football community (i.e. other FAs) was that Britain was overtly favoured by FIFA/UEFA, given we have 4 members within 1 country. I may be wrong on this, but don't the various British FAs have deciding votes on the ruling body that decides the rules of the game also?
22A Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 No but what about a British cup ? 3 poss 4 Scottish clubs might be able to compete with the English Prem clubs, Linfield from NI and TNS from the Welsh League might be able to hold their own against a Championship team on a good day, but that would be it. A British competition sounds good but the Welsh & NI leagues (and Irish Republic) are made up of part timers who would be out of their depth against the top Scottish & English clubs. Go back 40 years to the Anglo Scottish Cup; teams playing in Europe didn't bother with it, so we had no TV coverage as it featured such ties as Bristol City v Partick and St Mirren v Stoke etc. Slightly off topic, did anyone on here go to Hibs and witness the Battle of Easter Road? City lost and finished with 9 men but won the return to progress to the next round.
Guest CardiffBlackLabel Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 It will certainly never happen. Other Uefa members are reportadly envious of the UK (our state) having 4 different leagues and national teams, and I can see there point. Wales, England, Scotland and Northern Ireland's relationship is no different to that of the Basque Country, Catalonia etc within Spain. Only tradition keeps the leagues and national teams seperate. Things like a British cup would be a great idea, but again it would be jumped on by other nations who would argue there should be a British league and single British team. I would however 100% support a British and Irish league in Rugby Union.
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