formerly known as ivan Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 Why has it taken so long to bring a new manager in? We had a two week break since Millen was sacked which was the time to get someone in. Because of this we have had the assistant to Millen looking after things and doing everything the same! May as well left Millen in charge until a new man was in place! The board couldn't run a bath and things go from bad to worse. We must be taking on a manager with a view of getting promoted back to the championship. I get the whole big decision thing and getting the right man for the job but right now it doesn't matter who gets the job, were in deep shit. The club is a shambles from top to bottom right now!
Guest red23 Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 To be fair they may have taken their time to (hopefully) get the right man..but he now has 2 less games to turn it round...
Guest monciderarmy Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 Why has it taken so long to bring a new manager in? We had a two week break since Millen was sacked which was the time to get someone in. Because of this we have had the assistant to Millen looking after things and doing everything the same! May as well left Millen in charge until a new man was in place! The board couldn't run a bath and things go from bad to worse. We must be taking on a manager with a view of getting promoted back to the championship. I get the whole big decision thing and getting the right man for the job but right now it doesn't matter who gets the job, were in deep shit. The club is a shambles from top to bottom right now! Totallt agree with everything you have written and also lets hope the club come out and tell us why they didnt go down the route of appointing someone that is likely to get us out of this mess? Instead of taking the cheap option again and going down the route of a poor to average championsip manager in Robins or a league 1 manager at best in Mcinnes?
Mendip City Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 They wanted Cotterill, funnily enough he chose former European Champions Nottingham Forest - dunno why! The recruitment policy at this club is dire when it comes to managers. Oh and players! Every 'name' will know what went on with Coppell, see that those running the club are unchanged and steer well clear. This club prefers to control it manager rather than leaving him in control of all things playing related - hence no Jones. The place is a shambles, it stinks of relegation and a truely proven boss wouldn't go near it. Other than that everything's great. Rant over!
basshead Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 They wanted Cotterill, funnily enough he chose former European Champions Nottingham Forest - dunno why! The recruitment policy at this club is dire when it comes to managers. Oh and players! Every 'name' will know what went on with Coppell, see that those running the club are unchanged and steer well clear. This club prefers to control it manager rather than leaving him in control of all things playing related - hence no Jones. The place is a shambles, it stinks of relegation and a truely proven boss wouldn't go near it. Other than that everything's great. Rant over! shocking should have been thinking about new manager weeks before he left
Mendip City Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 shocking should have been thinking about new manager weeks before he left Agree two quality managers (Davies and Jones) were available and should have been firmly on our radar. They are and sadly will remain available on Thursday (18 days since the Blackpool match). Oh and as the statement from Millen still hasn't been released i assume his (deserved) compo still hasn't been agreed - another bloody disgrace from this tin-pot club that i have the misfortune to love so much!!!!
steviestevieneville Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 Agree two quality managers (Davies and Jones) were available and should have been firmly on our radar. They are and sadly will remain available on Thursday (18 days since the Blackpool match). Oh and as the statement from Millen still hasn't been released i assume his (deserved) compo still hasn't been agreed - another bloody disgrace from this tin-pot club that i have the misfortune to love so much!!!! He was being sarcastic
The Casual Connoisseur Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 What about the ridiculous persistence with Millen, on reality a new manager should have been target, approached and interviewed ages ago, our boards dithering could ultimately cost us our place in this league, embarrassing and pathetic.
Mendip City Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 He was being sarcastic Was he? Regardless, the club should have been exploring potential alternatives for many weeks now eady to make a swift move. Unlike the dwindling masses at Ashton Gate the board seem to be stunned at the time Millen was sacked. They have mis-managed the situation and lied about the process and timescales.
the1stknowle Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 Was he? Regardless, the club should have been exploring potential alternatives for many weeks now eady to make a swift move. Unlike the dwindling masses at Ashton Gate the board seem to be stunned at the time Millen was sacked. They have mis-managed the situation and lied about the process and timescales. They haven't lied, no one offered the job to Steve Cotterill and they have had an exhaustive process leading to, it seems, the appointment of one of the most highly rated young managers in Britain. I don't get why as soon as rumours appear (offering it to cotterill even though we all knew the process hadn't finished yet; that one of the criteria was championship experience; that SL loves Robins and there is a split in the boardroom)... even once they are refuted, get adopted as fact and kept in the minds of some to back up their arguments. The boardroom split rumour literally started as someone idly speculating on this forum whilst admitting they had no idea if it was based in any fact. The Cotterill rumour started in the Sun and was immediately refuted by CS. It's nonsense. And that CS said anything about needing championship experience has been refuted on here many times. It didnt happen. He just used the words "championship" and "experience" near each other in one interview and people heard what they wanted to hear. The board have kept us informed as much as is possible and have gone through a proper process. What more can you ask from them? Sorry if they didnt employ your chosen candidate. They didnt employ mine. But the process has been sound, it seems to have arrived at a decent result and although you cant guarantee success, we have clearly brought in someone with talent. That's all we can ask. And the board have been really good in this process I think. After a really sticky patch with their fan relations during the first part of the season. My faith in them has been renewed. I accept that the board have much more information about the candidates and our club than I have. And therefore they are better placed than us to make the call. I'd have been more worried if they had appointed whoever the appoint tomorrow on the Monday after Millen's sacking. At least we can all agree (or at least should be able to) that we after tonight we have a decent yardstick to measure success by. If the new man (and that according to Scottish journos on twitter seems to be McInnes) keeps us up this season, then he's been a successful appointment, at least in the short-term. For me, still exciting times.
the1stknowle Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 And whilst we're at it, the Coppell rumour has been dragged up again on this thread. It's now been allowed to pass into history that he left because he didn't have the backing of the board or because Millen was foisted upon him. This is not the case. Again a totally speculative rumour has been allowed to fester on this board and suddenly become the truth according to some. And then used as evidence as to why our board is rubbish. Think about it, would Steve Coppell who has a history of mental weakness, really allow his name to be sullied for a third time with a story about him quitting because of a lack of passion if that were not the case? It's not like managers mind quitting because they arent getting backing from their chairmen and then announcing loudly they quit on principle. It's just not common sense and from the one "source" I've got at the club Im led to believe there isnt a word of truth in it. I'd need to hear it from more than one person to be positive as people have their own opinions and so having one insider at the club isnt much better than having none. But from the little I know or have heard, from using my common sense, from the fact he refused to take over straight away and then went on a long holiday, from his history, from the comments he was making at the end of his stint with reading and during their relegation season, and just from a lack of decent sources of information from those that think coppell did fall out with the board, I see no reason why it has been taken as gospel by some on here. Coppell walks out of clubs. And that's what he did to us. If his heart wasn't in it, then I dont criticise him as he did the right thing for us. But let's not rewrite history to make our points sound more forceful.
Nibor Posted October 18, 2011 Posted October 18, 2011 Three weeks to appoint a manager at a level where they're in charge of a £12m budget and the key decision maker in the business is by normal standards a ludicrously short time. You can't really start looking for that man in earnest with someone in the job, not if you want to hire a manager with integrity and retain a little of your own too. As long as they get it right, complaining about the time taken is a little churlish IMO.
Oops Posted October 19, 2011 Posted October 19, 2011 Three weeks to appoint a manager at a level where they're in charge of a £12m budget and the key decision maker in the business is by normal standards a ludicrously short time. You can't really start looking for that man in earnest with someone in the job, not if you want to hire a manager with integrity and retain a little of your own too. As long as they get it right, complaining about the time taken is a little churlish IMO. BOOM! The first vaguely intelligent post in the last hundred I've read. And that includes my own.
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