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In todays independent steve lansdown is quoted as saying

There was talk on the internet of supporters boycotting games which i consider absolutely ridiculous

I would like to think there will be a full house at ashton gate against birmingham with dereks arrival

That would help our financial position which id difficult and give me encouragement for the future

to be brutally honest if the supporters are not going to support our football then why should i

Guest bcfcas1
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Haven't heard anything about a boycott?

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Haven't heard anything about a boycott?

I have on BBC Bristol radio & some of my mates were saying it aswell & now Milly has gone lets hope we start seeing all the regulars return. Del Boy McCider will take us forward.

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The boycott was only against Millen, why would any city fan not get behind the new gaffer and the team, You have to love the press trying to create problems

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Well Steve, if you don't want to do it, don't do it. You are free to do as you please, as am I. The difference between you and me is about £500m. The football was absolute shite and I have more important things to spend my time and pittance on. When there is a marked improvement in entertainment and your employees on the pitch start giving a shit, I will return.

Ps. Pleased you and the board have made the right decision in getting rid of Keith and hopefully Mcinnes will be the saviour of this club.

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I think this lansdown showing us his true colours, i dont like to be threatened in order to get me to go to a game

Calm down martyr.

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Seems like an odd comment to make at this particular time.

Would have preferred something along the lines of "I can sympathize with the fans, they have every right to express their dissatifaction as we are bottom of the league. I have every faith Derek will turn things around and the fans will returrn"

SL could do with reading the "Rallying Call" thread - this is not the time for slagging off your club's fans IMO.

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In todays independent steve lansdown is quoted as saying

There was talk on the internet of supporters boycotting games which i consider absolutely ridiculous

I would like to think there will be a full house at ashton gate against birmingham with dereks arrival

That would help our financial position which id difficult and give me encouragement for the future

to be brutally honest if the supporters are not going to support our football then why should i

Not really surprising to be honest. The next few weeks and months are vital for this club. To take the gloomy scenario if the JR delays or kills the new ground and performances and artendances don't improve I fully expect Steve to stop throwing good money after bad. Nothing is forever - Steve will go at some point, it's just a matter of when and how. Maybe he's already started getting some emotional distance from the club - has many supporters already have.

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Call me naive, but I don't believe a word of it. I'd have thouight The Independent would have known better than print such dross...

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If this is true, bad move Steve. Slag off the fans at your peril. Better he Buggers off with his money and let's us rot than threaten what is effectively the club. No fans no club.

Just hope it isn't true. If it is it is another woeful bit of pr from the club. And a huge slap in the face to all the loyal fans who choose to support, not boycott.

If it is true, his blue colours are starting to show, after all, he supported the gas before us. Which he alluded to himself many years ago.

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I think sl should keep his mouth shut. Not the right time to be getting people's backs up when we are well bottom of the league.

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I read that the boycott was for fans to turn up 5 mins late, ie miss the first 5 minutes of EVERY game in the country at 3.00pm yesterday. This was in protest about the proposals of the Premiership not having relegations, or something. NOTHING to do with BCFC and our situation.

Or was this something else entirely?

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I haven't been boycotting - I just haven't been going to games because I felt Millen was incapable of delivering winning football and wasn't prepared to waste money watching sh*te. I'll be back today.

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Seems like SL is out of touch with the supporters.

To be brutally honest, if you spend millions on a football club and it's bottom of the division, you should be directing your whinge inwards not outwards.

People are finding it hard to make ends meet and spending a shed load of money on watching unadulterated shite probably isn't high on the agenda and that's just a fact of life - normal life.

all very well and good - but somehwat irrelevant - a boycott is something quite different to not being able to afford to go.

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I read that the boycott was for fans to turn up 5 mins late, ie miss the first 5 minutes of EVERY game in the country at 3.00pm yesterday. This was in protest about the proposals of the Premier League not having relegations, or something. NOTHING to do with BCFC and our situation.

Or was this something else entirely?

There were definitely some fools on here suggesting boycotts/demos etc a few weeks ago.

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I'd SL actually said those comments he needs to seriously grow up. A football club is nothing without supporters and rather than alienate himself further with certain sectors perhaps he should make a few more positive comments.

I am sure the marketing department a really pleased that the majority share holder is essentially calling fans ridiculous.

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If true- and I haven't seen the article- awful PR. Disappointing, he should know better. Very difficult financial climate etc, he should know. That said, McInnes=Fresh start, clean slate etc so hopefully the attendances will improve over time.

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In todays independent steve lansdown is quoted as saying

There was talk on the internet of supporters boycotting games which i consider absolutely ridiculous

I would like to think there will be a full house at ashton gate against birmingham with dereks arrival

That would help our financial position which id difficult and give me encouragement for the future

to be brutally honest if the supporters are not going to support our football then why should i

If SL wants to fill the ground up a bit he should knock at least £5 off pay on the day and make it quid a kid every game.

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As Tomarse said, I think Latham's poisonous pen may be behind this. Never forgiven City for sacking his idol John Ward. Stopped reading his column as he is clearly biased against the club and his views are outdated and his column is weeks behind the Evil Post, as ridiculous as that sounds.

Guest ateyomike
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is it his way of getting out by saying if the supporters aren't behind me why should i bother a cop out like coppell

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I don't know if this is true or not but if it is then that's very dissapointing to hear. Maybe he should give away his millions and take a 9-5 job somewhere then try and work out if he can go to a City game and pay the bills at the same time. I hope it's not true though.

Guest ateyomike
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oh forgot to say btw is a new ground out od the question then we can suppose that is he using the fans as a scape goat whilst his personal ambitions are falling by the wayside and down the pan as each day passes

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A few years ago Lansdown did a share issue and expressed disappointment that very few shareholders took up the opportunity to put more money in.

Thats a fact and I find it very believable that Lansdown has criticised supporters as described in The Indepenedent, particularly as its The Independent and not the Sun.

So the question becomes, is Lansdown entitled to criticise supporters that call for a boycott.

Well, one other thing that Lansdown has said is that football is a business.

As someone that considers myself as a fan supporting my local sporting team, and wholeheartedly disagrees with any notion that football should be viewed as a business, I disagree with where Steve comes from. Nevertheless, thats where he comes from.

And so the logical conclusion is that in Steve's world "customers" are simply choosing not to purchase the product.

You cant have it both ways Steve.

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In todays independent steve lansdown is quoted as saying

There was talk on the internet of supporters boycotting games which i consider absolutely ridiculous

I would like to think there will be a full house at ashton gate against birmingham with dereks arrival

That would help our financial position which id difficult and give me encouragement for the future

to be brutally honest if the supporters are not going to support our football then why should i

Well Stevie Boy heres a little business tip for you,

Success on the pitch equates to bums on seats.

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I have today read Richard Lathams page in the Sunday Independent. No reason to doubt his words. I will quote the words Lansdown said to Latham , as he has printed.

'There was talk on the internet of supporters boycotting games, which I consider absolutely ridiculous. I would like to think there will be a full house at Ashton Gate against Birmingham, with Dereks arrival,a large contingent of visiting fans and the fact that it is an attractive fixture anyway. That would help our financial position, which is difficult., and it would give me encouragement for the future. To be brutally honest if the supporters are not going to support our football club, then why should I ?'

I have no doubt that the article is spot on, I cannot see Latham making it up. A simple word of warning really. If he has enough and packs his bags, then that would be a worse scenario than any relegation. And he has a point.

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Full house, last time we had a full house was Rotherham in the 3rd div

fans aint gonna come back that quickly Mr L, we have watched total garbage football under your chosen manager for the past season and a third.

Fans will not return in numbers unless we stay up,so were looking at next season if we stay up and finish fairly strong this season too

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City will be here long after SL,

I am amazed that someone or consortium has not decided to put Bristol city on the map ,the potential here is massive.

I remember being at the gate,when we had crowds of 30000 plus, and it can happen again, with the right investment and backing.

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Sigh all of what SL has done for us and he still gets criticism.

That'll be him gone if he realises how ungrateful some fans are.

can you tell me what he has done?

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How about putting his hand in his pocket for several tens of millions over recent years to prevent us going bust ?

Tens of millions you say?

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Tens of millions you say?

I know someone will come up with some financial reason why im in correct but does he not cover our loses every year was it 12 m last year ?

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I know someone will come up with some financial reason why im in correct but does he not cover our loses every year was it 12 m last year ?

why are we making losses?

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To question what Steve has done for this club is ridiculous. He's only trying to get us a stadium which he's paying for himself. Oh, it's only 92 Million Quid.

The stadium,the complex will all be owned by him,it will not be owned by the club.

Real estate comes to mind.

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why are we making losses?

Thats football for you i know where your going with this and im sure we could debate it all night long. At the end of the day you cant put all blame on SL

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Latham quotes stupid forum gossip to ex-chairman, who, understandably is not happy.

Latham quotes grumpy response from ex-chairman to once again create story from nothing.

Once a local hack, always a local hack

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Thats football for you i know where your going with this and im sure we could debate it all night long. At the end of the day you cant put all blame on SL

he under writes a debt every season that he HOPES my go away?

No sir he will underwrite and underwrite until he is sick of it

If Mr L wants to see a return then he needs to pump a hell of a lot of dough into the playing side of BCFC, not just Maynard and a few 800k signings.

He is losing more by spending less im afraid, that is the state of English football in 2011 im afraid

And let me also remind you that SL only lends us the dough,so infact it could be argueed that Steve infact is only adding to the clubs debts.

Unless Steve seriously invests a hell of a lot mor dough on the playing side, then im affraid i see 1982 all over again, and some of the older wiser heads on here see it too

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Richard Latham is one of the most untrustworthy sources you could wish to quote. Perhaps he feels if he keeps making things up he will get a job with the Sun or the Daily Mail, I don't believe he has even set foot in Ashton Gate for the last 10 years, he is as reliable as those people who phone in to 20mans show and then say, "I haven't been down for years Geoff", but know everything that is wrong with the club.

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he under writes a debt every season that he HOPES my go away?

No sir he will underwrite and underwrite until he is sick of it

If Mr L wants to see a return then he needs to pump a hell of a lot of dough into the playing side of BCFC, not just Maynard and a few 800k signings.

He is losing more by spending less im afraid, that is the state of English football in 2011 im afraid

And let me also remind you that SL only lends us the dough,so infact it could be argueed that Steve infact is only adding to the clubs debts.

Unless Steve seriously invests a hell of a lot mor dough on the playing side, then im affraid i see 1982 all over again, and some of the older wiser heads on here see it too

:clapping: At ******* last. Someone who agrees with what I've been saying for gawd knows how long!

We are rock bottom because we have a shite squad!

We are rock bottom because the players who people keep saying saved us from the drop for the last 2 seasons, and can't quite get their heads round why they are not doing this season need to WAKE UP and realise that the teams that have come up and come down have made this league a lot more difficult from the off. We have done **** all in the transer market as SL isn't going to spend any more money on players until he knows about the stadium. He thought we had enough in the squad to stay up (forget all that BS drivel about playoffs etc)

but that has backed fired big time! The other teams have brought in players, and maybe the players of the other teams from last season have stepped up to the mark.

Del boy had an idea that things were bad, but I don't think he really knows quite yet how bad this shower of shite really is.

Some how I'm really hoping he can find the magic formula, and really hoping he can get some QUALITY loans in from, well where?

So as Mr Gow quite rightly points out, SPEND SOME MONEY, SOME PROPER MONEY, 5 MILLION I'D SAY AS A MIN OR GOODBYE CHAMPIONSHIP, as you can't survive in this league with L1 PLAYERS apart from Maynard, Pitman, and Albert.

5 Players @ £1 MILLION Each On 20 Grand a week (Not bench warmers!)

Not 10 Players at £500,000 on 10 Grand a week to swell the squad (that is what has happened) who turn out crap because we we're too bloody tight!

QUALITY not Quantity!

SL is a good Chairman and without him we'd be screwed, but he's not a great chaiman as he doesn't quite get it with regards to what is important. WHAT COMES OUT THE TUNNEL EACH WEEK!

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I have heard he is so pissed of Lansdown he is not going ahead with the ground no more he is selling the land to Dale farm residents, he has made mistakes but how certain people have ago at him beggars believe to me sometimes he must think in his tax haven where he deserves to be why do i bother his staff pay enough tax into this country so why does he have to do it as well?. Papers twist words i expect a big crowd against Birmingham i would think he said and the press twisted it like c u next Tuesday they are.

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So when we are trying to cut back on expenses due to funding a stadium to help us become more self-sufficient and the general state of the economy and football you propose we got out and spend £20million???

I wouldnt expect us to spend that in our first two seasons of the Premier League (if we ever get there)

Transfer fees - £5 million

Wages - 5 players on 20 grand a week is about £1million a year each times their 3 year contract comes to about £15 million.

Not too mention signing on fees and bonuses.

Financial genius this one.

What we need to do (and hopefully now have) is a manager who can spend under a million on a few players, use the loan market and dig up some freebies and get the players performing as a top end championship team. Swansea, Norwich, Blackpool, Stoke, Wigan never spent masses in the championship but got their managers to use some average players to excel. How long ago was it on here that we were all disappointed by the fact we were linked with Grant Holt when he was at Forest? 50 goals in 3 season. Our whole team will struggle to score that this year!

It's going to take some time to get rid of the guff that previous managers have bought, but with the amount of players out of contract at the end of the year it will be a huge turn around for DM and he wont have far off a blank canvas to get his players in, and I'm sure SL will stump up the cash. I can't remember the last time we didn't sign someone due to lack of funds.

Guest bcfc_kieran
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:clapping: At ******* last. Someone who agrees with what I've been saying for gawd knows how long!

We are rock bottom because we have a shite squad!

We are rock bottom because the players who people keep saying saved us from the drop for the last 2 seasons, and can't quite get their heads round why they are not doing this season need to WAKE UP and realise that the teams that have come up and come down have made this league a lot more difficult from the off. We have done **** all in the transer market as SL isn't going to spend any more money on players until he knows about the stadium. He thought we had enough in the squad to stay up (forget all that BS drivel about playoffs etc)

but that has backed fired big time! The other teams have brought in players, and maybe the players of the other teams from last season have stepped up to the mark.

Del boy had an idea that things were bad, but I don't think he really knows quite yet how bad this shower of shite really is.

Some how I'm really hoping he can find the magic formula, and really hoping he can get some QUALITY loans in from, well where?

So as Mr Gow quite rightly points out, SPEND SOME MONEY, SOME PROPER MONEY, 5 MILLION I'D SAY AS A MIN OR GOODBYE CHAMPIONSHIP, as you can't survive in this league with L1 PLAYERS apart from Maynard, Pitman, and Albert.

5 Players @ £1 MILLION Each On 20 Grand a week (Not bench warmers!)

Not 10 Players at £500,000 on 10 Grand a week to swell the squad (that is what has happened) who turn out crap because we we're too bloody tight!

QUALITY not Quantity!

SL is a good Chairman and without him we'd be screwed, but he's not a great chaiman as he doesn't quite get it with regards to what is important. WHAT COMES OUT THE TUNNEL EACH WEEK!

I'm glad someones got the balls to say it. Too many on here pussy foot around.

Good on you lad!

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<br />can you tell me what he has done?<br />
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Got us to several play offs, promotion, competing in the 4th biggest league in European football, wembley and the biggest game in world football, brought in some players I could only dream about seeing play at Ashton Gate........ but yeah, other than that, what's he done?

Yes we have accrued debt over that period, but at least it's to him and he's taking steps to make us self sufficient rather than have a strop pull out and demand his money back. In fact the only way I can see that happening is through ungrateful fans. He has made mistakes, but they were honest mistakes, which he is picking up the tab for.

People should remember which side there bread is buttered. Without SL we would at best, be languishing in the 3rd tier. If he pulls out now I personally think the club would fall apart and we could repeat what happened in the early 80's..... or worse. Give Lansdown a bit of slack and he will deliver us a brand new stadium to be proud of which could help the club run with a profit and self sufficiently before he enviably takes a further step back.

In SL I trust and am very grateful for

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lansdown walks away bristol city will go bankrupt, your ether too stupid or just a big cock not to know this,

Those telling him to stick his hand in his pocket grow the **** up we would be in rovers postion with out him

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So where would we be without SL's money? Ooh, I know, Mr Gow, bcfc_kieran and The Sniper are going to put their hands in their pockets to get us in the Premier League!

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lansdown walks away bristol city will go bankrupt, your ether too stupid or just a big cock not to know this,

Those telling him to stick his hand in his pocket grow the **** up we would be in rovers postion with out him

I can see both points to this to be fair.

I get where your coming from, but like has been pointed out, a lot of debts thats been accrued have been down to his poor decisions. Keeping hold of Johnson and Millen for far to long being the worst decisions of the lot.....Johnson especially, as he wasted so much money in his last 12 months.

Lansdown is a good chairman, and I do feel the bloke does his best and has good intentions, but I struggle to be overly grateful that he clears £12m worth of debt....when this is a debt that has accrued on his watch. If I go £2k overdrawn with Natwest, then clear it....I dont expect a pat on the back.

This club is a business venture to SL, and if we had made the Prem.....he would have been rolling in it. We didnt make the Prem...and like any business gamble, he is losing out now.

Yes he could walk away and yes we would go bankrupt.....but I personally think he has a responsibility to finish what he has started

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lansdown walks away bristol city will go bankrupt, your ether too stupid or just a big cock not to know this,

Those telling him to stick his hand in his pocket grow the **** up we would be in rovers postion with out him

we are bottom of the league with 6 points, we have not won at home all season

Even Delboy knows the squad is unbalanced,nice way of saying were crap

Now sit back look at this squad we have and ask yourself " has enough money been spent on players?"

This club has a growing debt every season,the debt is owed to Mr L

Now then go away sit down for a few minutes and ask "why are we making loses every season?"

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So where would we be without SL's money? Ooh, I know, Mr Gow, bcfc_kieran and The Sniper are going to put their hands in their pockets to get us in the Premier League!

well at least im not the one taking us to div 3

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Why do so many people insist on believing that if SL walked away the club would be bancrupt ?

Do people think that he is the only person out there willing to invest into a football club ?

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I can see both points to this to be fair.

I get where your coming from, but like has been pointed out, a lot of debts thats been accrued have been down to his poor decisions. Keeping hold of Johnson and Millen for far to long being the worst decisions of the lot.....Johnson especially, as he wasted so much money in his last 12 months.

Lansdown is a good chairman, and I do feel the bloke does his best and has good intentions, but I struggle to be overly grateful that he clears £12m worth of debt....when this is a debt that has accrued on his watch. If I go £2k overdrawn with Natwest, then clear it....I dont expect a pat on the back.

This club is a business venture to SL, and if we had made the Prem.....he would have been rolling in it. We didnt make the Prem...and like any business gamble, he is losing out now.

Yes he could walk away and yes we would go bankrupt.....but I personally think he has a responsibility to finish what he has started

May I just add though, I am grateful for where he has bought us to over the alst couple of years. My point is solely, the debts that are being racked up are down to his poor decisions to give funding to two managers who should have been sacked long before they actually were

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May I just add though, I am grateful for where he has bought us to over the alst couple of years. My point is solely, the debts that are being racked up are down to his poor decisions to give funding to two managers who should have been sacked long before they actually were

+1

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why are we making losses?

You'd be the first to complain if we went down the S****horpe route and signed just free transfers and lived within our means!

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well at least im not the one taking us to div 3

True, but without SL's money it is doubtful we would have ever got out of it in the first place.

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Latham quotes stupid forum gossip to ex-chairman, who, understandably is not happy.

Latham quotes grumpy response from ex-chairman to once again create story from nothing.

Once a local hack, always a local hack

Sorry myol'man, but do you really think that posting perfectly logical and sensible posts which get to the heart of the matter will get you anywhere on this forum?

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If the local community wanted a park and you had money and spent say £100,000 to build one for the community and spent £5, 000 a year for the upkeep out of your own pocket. If people were moaning at the quality of the equipment at the park and because of that hardly anyone was using it, you would be a bit pee'd off at the un-gratfulness.

That is how steve Lansdown probably feels.....

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why are we making losses?

he under writes a debt every season that he HOPES my go away?

No sir he will underwrite and underwrite until he is sick of it

If Mr L wants to see a return then he needs to pump a hell of a lot of dough into the playing side of BCFC, not just Maynard and a few 800k signings.

He is losing more by spending less im afraid, that is the state of English football in 2011 im afraid

And let me also remind you that SL only lends us the dough,so infact it could be argueed that Steve infact is only adding to the clubs debts.

Unless Steve seriously invests a hell of a lot mor dough on the playing side, then im affraid i see 1982 all over again, and some of the older wiser heads on here see it too

we are bottom of the league with 6 points, we have not won at home all season

Even Delboy knows the squad is unbalanced,nice way of saying were crap

Now sit back look at this squad we have and ask yourself " has enough money been spent on players?"

This club has a growing debt every season,the debt is owed to Mr L

Now then go away sit down for a few minutes and ask "why are we making loses every season?"

May I just add though, I am grateful for where he has bought us to over the alst couple of years. My point is solely, the debts that are being racked up are down to his poor decisions to give funding to two managers who should have been sacked long before they actually were

To be honest, if I was SL reading this kind of thing, I might be tempted to walk away. This kind of reaction, rather than the ongoing losses, would make me question why I bothered. Would the likes of Mr Gow and Andy082005 be happy then?

Running up losses is not bad management - it's football. And all chairmen appoint both good and bad managers. Every appointment is a gamble, and there are an awful lot of chairmen out there who have made far worse decisions than SL.

As for the debt, isn't SL basically lending to himself? I assume a lot of it will be converted into equity at some point. That's how it usually works.

Someone as astute as SL cannot have come into lower league football with any expectation of making money from it.

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If the local community wanted a park and you had money and spent say £100,000 to build one for the community and spent £5, 000 a year for the upkeep out of your own pocket. If people were moaning at the quality of the equipment at the park and because of that hardly anyone was using it, you would be a bit pee'd off at the un-gratfulness.

That is how steve Lansdown probably feels.....

You can understand with his patience running out certain Council members have always had it in for him he has been good for Bristol not just what he has achieved with Lansdown & Hargreaves now he wants to move Bristol forward give the South West a stadia that it's crying out for some people say he's doing it knowing he will make a huge profit eventually out of it why is that wrong he is stumping the money up and he has got this money by getting of his ass and building a multi national business from a flat in Clifton.

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