Guest mjallen Posted October 23, 2011 Posted October 23, 2011 Down to injuries, down to lack of action in the transfer market, lack of money, poor management, young players not stepping-up.... I don't care or don't know. But fact: You will never be a good football team in the modern game without natural full backs. It is a skilled position, one in which there is an art- especially defensively. Knowing whether to track a runner, or cover space, go for the ball, play a cute pass, clear long etc And physique wise- you need to be able to turn quickly laterally and have a bit of pace. Going forward, there is no better formula to stretching a team than an overlapping run from a full back,or a cut inside to make space for the winger, or a darting run with the ball into space from the back to get forward quickly. Needless to say, Nyatanga and Skusie don't tick any of those boxes. Not bad footballers as a CB and CM respectively- but today, again, that was our main undoing in defence and attack from start to finish. Jesus christ if Albert had a decent FB to work with he would be unplayable. Del Boy will be right on it. He has to.
Drew Peacock Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 I think Skuse does tick a lot of those boxes. He is not a great mid-fielder, but he makes a reasonable full back.
Guest dziekanowski Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 i couldnt agree more with the op full back is a skilled postion, it seems all we do is pass to albert and see what he does. as soon as he has 3 defenders around him there is never an outlay for him. if jcr is going to contiune on the left then you need a left back who can over lap, and cross the ball and his left foot! i know people might think im mad but god we miss jamie mac
Red-Robbo Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 I think Skuse does tick a lot of those boxes. He is not a great mid-fielder, but he makes a reasonable full back. +1
Donald Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 Skuse started off as a defender, and never really got the move into midfield. Has done well but still feel long term defence is his best position. He's form at right back this season has been excellent, linking up with Albert brilliantly. He was sorely missed 2nd half yesterday.
gordie Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 and that was one of the main differences yesterday? Their full backs got forward with pace( especially Carr )and ours didn't.
David Brent Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 We are far too rigid in formation, no overlapping full backs makes us easy to contain. I guess that may come with confidence.
Pederho ll Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 Skuse started off as a defender, and never really got the move into midfield. Has done well but still feel long term defence is his best position. He's form at right back this season has been excellent, linking up with Albert brilliantly. He was sorely missed 2nd half yesterday. Wow, this is staggering stuff.
gordie Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 A fit Riberio could be the answer at right back, naive defensively but good on the overlap and getting forward, is he fit now or injured again tho?
Riaz Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 Skuse started off as a defender, and never really got the move into midfield. Has done well but still feel long term defence is his best position. He's form at right back this season has been excellent, linking up with Albert brilliantly. He was sorely missed 2nd half yesterday. I did'nt see any player link up with albert well. Its a case of give the ball to albert and we'll watch. The only right back thats has given Albert any real support was Jordan Spence.
Roger Red Hat Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 I think Skuse does tick a lot of those boxes. He is not a great mid-fielder, but he makes a reasonable full back. Yep.
Guest mjallen Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 Yep. watch Cole Skuse in the lead up to Birmingham's first goal. I could not explain my case any clearer than to watch that video. note. midfielders challenge: going straight into the player for the ball as if he was playing at the half-way line and not as a back 4 on the 18- yard box. All he had to do was cover the over - lapping (oh thats what we could do with) run or cover the space. note. simple errors = easy goals = what we have done all season its tiring. I like Cole Skuse. But over a season having the natural player makes a huge difference. someone also mentioned Riberio at right- back. Good player- what we need! But not one that spends 90% of his time on bloody crutches!!!!
Kibs Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 watch Cole Skuse in the lead up to Birmingham's first goal. I could not explain my case any clearer than to watch that video. note. midfielders challenge: going straight into the player for the ball as if he was playing at the half-way line and not as a back 4 on the 18- yard box. All he had to do was cover the over - lapping (oh thats what we could do with) run or cover the space. note. simple errors = easy goals = what we have done all season its tiring. I like Cole Skuse. But over a season having the natural player makes a huge difference. someone also mentioned Riberio at right- back. Good player- what we need! But not one that spends 90% of his time on bloody crutches!!!! Yes Skuse went to the ball but who tracked the runner? I will watch the video but at the time I thought they played a neat 1-2 while Elliott stopped and watched their man run down the outside. I stand to be corrected as I have only seen it once on sunday from the Dolman but thats how it looked to me. Will have another look when the highlights come on player. I have been very critical of Skuse in the past but I thought he looked pretty damn good at right back for the 45 minutes he played.
Donald Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 I did'nt see any player link up with albert well. Its a case of give the ball to albert and we'll watch. The only right back thats has given Albert any real support was Jordan Spence. Yesterday No, but in the previous few games, very much so.
Guest mjallen Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 Yes Skuse went to the ball but who tracked the runner? I will watch the video but at the time I thought they played a neat 1-2 while Elliott stopped and watched their man run down the outside. I stand to be corrected as I have only seen it once on sunday from the Dolman but thats how it looked to me. Will have another look when the highlights come on player. I have been very critical of Skuse in the past but I thought he looked pretty damn good at right back for the 45 minutes he played. i agree with you about Elliot. And i agree that Skuse had a good 45 mins overall, but it is the big simple errors that are killing us right now, leading to easy goals. Regardless of Marvin not going for the runner, i believe that a natural right back doesn't go for the ball there. His midfielder has caused the situation but the action is to cover the space as the player penetrating the line and getting in behind is far more dangerous than "she said no Marlon" cutting inside to a wall of centre backs. The difference (sat in the Ayteo) watching City's defensive line and discipline in the first half compared to Birmingham's in the second half was black and white. Apart from Adomah beating the man, we as Derek said, "played into their hands" most of the game.
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