Red Till I'm Dead Posted September 14, 2013 Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 He stands there with his arms crossed looking into space. He never really points and shouts to the players on the pitch. Secondly, he makes subs that are too late, put subs on in 50-65 mins, not 80, give the player to get into the game and make a impact. Thirdly, he comes out with some crap, we won the Bristol derby, slats THE FANS! Not the game, you're getting paid to manage the team, not spend a whole interview slating fans. He's never had anything about him, we need a manager who has motivation, don't change a winning team. Yeah I know we've won all our cup games, so why don't we keep the winning team on??? Abuse me, whatever, I don't care. What do you think about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonL Posted September 14, 2013 Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 Do what you always do you get what you always get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted September 14, 2013 Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 He slated the fan who were idiots and was correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearded_red Posted September 14, 2013 Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 He stands there with his arms crossed looking into space. He never really points and shouts to the players on the pitch. I'm afraid I stopped reading at this point. First of all it is incorrect and secondly criticising a manager's demeanour on the touchline is always a sign that somebody's opinion isn't worth listening to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperor Palpatine Posted September 14, 2013 Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 He certainly isn't the greatest to interview that's for certain.. seems a very dour person. On the thing with managers on the touchline, I thought at City we wanted someone who jumps about rather than standing there, motionless, arms crossed Who would be a more viable alternative anyway? Like with the end of Del, I hardly see SL forking out compo for an employed manager now. Oh for the record I am not advocating getting rid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted September 14, 2013 Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 He stands there with his arms crossed looking into space. He never really points and shouts to the players on the pitch. Secondly, he makes subs that are too late, put subs on in 50-65 mins, not 80, give the player to get into the game and make a impact. Thirdly, he comes out with some crap, we won the Bristol derby, slats THE FANS! Not the game, you're getting paid to manage the team, not spend a whole interview slating fans. He's never had anything about him, we need a manager who has motivation, don't change a winning team. Yeah I know we've won all our cup games, so why don't we keep the winning team on??? Abuse me, whatever, I don't care. What do you think about it? May I be the first to say SOD OFF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted September 14, 2013 Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 He stands there with his arms crossed looking into space. He never really points and shouts to the players on the pitch. Secondly, he makes subs that are too late, put subs on in 50-65 mins, not 80, give the player to get into the game and make a impact. Thirdly, he comes out with some crap, we won the Bristol derby, slats THE FANS! Not the game, you're getting paid to manage the team, not spend a whole interview slating fans. He's never had anything about him, we need a manager who has motivation, don't change a winning team. Yeah I know we've won all our cup games, so why don't we keep the winning team on??? Abuse me, whatever, I don't care. What do you think about it? Hasn't he subbed players before 45 mins, and at half time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperor Palpatine Posted September 14, 2013 Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 Hasn't he subbed players before 45 mins, and at half time? Kilkenny against Wolves after about half hour I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted September 14, 2013 Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 Kilkenny against Wolves after about half hour I believe. Exactly. look like the OP went on a rant without thinking. Good to get it off his chest even if factually incorrect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted September 14, 2013 Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 He stands there with his arms crossed looking into space. He never really points and shouts to the players on the pitch. Secondly, he makes subs that are too late, put subs on in 50-65 mins, not 80, give the player to get into the game and make a impact. Thirdly, he comes out with some crap, we won the Bristol derby, slats THE FANS! Not the game, you're getting paid to manage the team, not spend a whole interview slating fans. He's never had anything about him, we need a manager who has motivation, don't change a winning team. Yeah I know we've won all our cup games, so why don't we keep the winning team on??? Abuse me, whatever, I don't care. What do you think about it? What I think about it? You're an absolute tool. Don't you get it here? SOD has to clear up the shit that other managers and board members have caused. Therefore the 'success' that we all desperately want, won't come over night. He wanted to sign Shorey and O'connor full time contracts but couldn't because of past managers wasting valuable money on players like Styvar and Hunt. Please think before posting because you have no idea. This is a long term process here and we do not want fans at the Gate like you, because quite frankly, you're the type to ruin it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperor Palpatine Posted September 14, 2013 Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 What I think about it? You're an absolute tool. Don't you get it here? SOD has to clear up the shit that other managers and board members have caused. Therefore the 'success' that we all desperately want, won't come over night. He wanted to sign Shorey and O'connor full time contracts but couldn't because of past managers wasting valuable money on players like Styvar and Hunt. Please think before posting because you have no idea. This is a long term process here and we do not want fans at the Gate like you, because quite frankly, you're the type to ruin it. You've hit the nail on the head there but to be perfectly honest SO'D is on a hiding to nothing it seems, nothing will be good enough. I think his quote on the official site pretty much summed it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted September 14, 2013 Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 You've hit the nail on the head there but to be perfectly honest SO'D is on a hiding to nothing it seems, nothing will be good enough. I think his quote on the official site pretty much summed it up. Ovcourse. Do you really think SOD wanted to sign Harewood? I only think he did because of the money he had available and also that MH was keen to sign. He tried to sign P'boro's top scorer but couldn't because of the stubbornness trying not to splash money. This season may knock a few City fans egos, we have to be patient and put up with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Till I'm Dead Posted September 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 I know that some of you disagree, but i'm titled too my own opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swindon8er Posted September 14, 2013 Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 Laughable mate, none of us are happy with the league start but with so many changes and let's face it, we sold our best players and brought in mostly free transfers, the bad start itsn't that much of a shock. SOD will stay here even if we struggle this season I imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderbeans Posted September 14, 2013 Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 OP you are a mug. Nuf said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timothy bird Posted September 14, 2013 Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 The club has been grossly mismanaged on and off the pitch for years, but we are where we are, s.o.d has a long term plan to sirt the mess out, we have to give him and Burt time, its our only hope, for gods sake as city supporters let's show some backbone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted September 14, 2013 Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 The club has been grossly mismanaged on and off the pitch for years, but we are where we are, s.o.d has a long term plan to sirt the mess out, we have to give him and Burt time, its our only hope, for gods sake as city supporters let's show some backbone! Agree with that, but can we please sort out the off-pitch shambles now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted September 14, 2013 Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 Agree with that, but can we please sort out the off-pitch shambles now Only way is to lop of the leaders head. I pray for the day someone with enough money can wrestle it away from SL? Great in business, awful football club owner full of broken promises and changes of direction. Seriously, as much as he has put in in money, he has taken away in broken promises and changes of direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperor Palpatine Posted September 14, 2013 Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 Only way is to lop of the leaders head. I pray for the day someone with enough money can wrestle it away from SL? Great in business, awful football club owner full of broken promises and changes of direction. Seriously, as much as he has put in in money, he has taken away in broken promises and changes of direction. You'll be slated for that one pal by the Lansdown fan club but I agree with you 100%. Needs actual knowledgeable people in football/business who know what they are doing and to run the club efficiently. People who keep saying we'd be screwed if we never had SL at the helm are a little misguided (cue abuse) because lets face it, we seem to be on our knees with his misspent millions... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted September 14, 2013 Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 You'll be slated for that one pal by the Lansdown fan club but I agree with you 100%. Needs actual knowledgeable people in football/business who know what they are doing and to run the club efficiently. People who keep saying we'd be screwed if we never had SL at the helm are a little misguided (cue abuse) because lets face it, we seem to be on our knees with his misspent millions... Exactly, I have been of this opinion for a few years. I can't slate him for putting his money in, I can slate him for everything else. Those that say we would be in div 3 without his money are really living in cloud cuckoo land. with out his money, I would be happy to gamble, we may well have done exactly what we have achieved with his money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperor Palpatine Posted September 14, 2013 Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 Exactly, I have been of this opinion for a few years. I can't slate him for putting his money in, I can slate him for everything else. Those that say we would be in div 3 without his money are really living in cloud cuckoo land. with out his money, I would be happy to gamble, we may well have done exactly what we have achieved with his money Yup no one can slate him for the amount of money he has put in but the decisions in recent years have been questionable at best. All the compo we have paid for 5 failed managers in 3 years for starters, wouldn't like to hazard a guess but it must be a quite a fair amount and that's just the tip of the iceberg so to speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted September 14, 2013 Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 Yup no one can slate him for the amount of money he has put in but the decisions in recent years have been questionable at best. All the compo we have paid for 5 failed managers in 3 years for starters, wouldn't like to hazard a guess but it must be a quite a fair amount and that's just the tip of the iceberg so to speak. The problem is that SL knows no more about football than most of those on OTIB and, judging by some posts on here today, that's not very much. Under the circumstances, Guernsey is probably the best place for him. One of the reasons Harry Dolman was so successful was that he knew enough about football to leave it to the professionals. I wish stevevwould do the same. What disturbs me is that he also seems to know FA about management, given the off-pitch shambles at the moment. Maybe the reshuffle will sort that out. I certainly hope so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperor Palpatine Posted September 14, 2013 Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 The problem is that SL knows no more about football than most of those on OTIB and, judging by some posts on here today, that's not very much. Under the circumstances, Guernsey is probably the best place for him. One of the reasons Harry Dolman was so successful was that he knew enough about football to leave it to the professionals. I wish stevevwould do the same. What disturbs me is that he also seems to know FA about management, given the off-pitch shambles at the moment. Maybe the reshuffle will sort that out. I certainly hope so. Its also TRL has posted the constant change in direction season in, season out.. the club just seems completely lost. Just wonder how long SO'D will get before SL panics if things are still not going right and gives him the bullet. Like you said I hope the reshuffle will sort things out and soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheddarReds Posted September 14, 2013 Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 SO'D out? No, he's trying his best to deal with a poor situation on and off the field. Yes, today was poor and I'm very dissapointed but I'm afraid I can't help feel some are over-reacting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperor Palpatine Posted September 14, 2013 Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 SO'D out? No, he's trying his best to deal with a poor situation on and off the field. Yes, today was poor and I'm very dissapointed but I'm afraid I can't help feel some are over-reacting. Of course and no doubt you'll see the knee-jerk reactions a few more times yet this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted September 14, 2013 Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 I'm afraid I stopped reading at this point. First of all it is incorrect and secondly criticising a manager's demeanour on the touchline is always a sign that somebody's opinion isn't worth listening to. How do you work that one out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfOfWestStreet Posted September 14, 2013 Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 TBH I'm on the anti-SOD camp. Criticises fans, doesn't seem to understand the fact WE HATE the GAS! Apparently when we beAt then we were celebrating wining the first round of the JPT. No SOD we ain't botherd about the most pointless cup in the history of football. We ******* beat Rovers I'd quite like it if you understood that! Good manager or not you are the most boring man in the history of the human race. If you came round to my house to have dinner I think if have to ask you to leave you are so dull. Sort it out SOD Ill give you the benefit of the doubt but bit impressed at all so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted September 14, 2013 Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 SOD seemed to be shouting and waving his arms around quite a lot today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slack Bladder Posted September 14, 2013 Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 SO'D out? No, he's trying his best to deal with a poor situation on and off the field. Yes, today was poor and I'm very dissapointed but I'm afraid I can't help feel some are over-reacting. Plus 1 Today had to be a blip.......right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted September 14, 2013 Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 I'm not gonna have a pop at the OP as he is as entitled to his opinion as everyone else. However, in my opinion, he is wrong. Put yourself in O'Driscoll's shoes for a moment. You arrive at a club half way through the January transfer window, with the club at the foot of the table having struggled for the previous 2 seasons and narrowly avoided relegation the year before. It is a club on the slide and lacking any whiff of positivity. You are told that there is hardly any money to spend as £50m has been wasted over the previous few years in search of Premier League riches. You discover that the club has no decent scouting network in place so you don't have immediate access to wheel and deal for thoroughly researched players within the small budget you have been given. You're made aware that the Financial Regulations being imposed mean that the wages need to be cut from £18m last year to £11m (and if you inevitably get relegated that has to reduce further to £4m). You are advised that the club has a philosophy to bring youngsters through from the academy and no longer will money be handed out in droves for overpaid, over the hill and overrated players. So, what do you do? Well, firstly you use your own contacts to arrange a new right back in Maloney and you swiftly follow this by bringing in a trusted head scout (Burt) to work with you. You persuade the board to make Burt a Director of Football because you realise there is Zero footballing nouse on the board. You then try to see the season out with unmotivated, disinterested players and not surprisingly you get relegated. You then find that a number of players are out of contract and will leave whilst a number of others who you don't want have to stay. You begin your recruitment by sticking to the club philosophy and signing a number of younger players who have the potential to be moulded into a team. You are hampered throughout your 1st real transfer window as there is always the looming figure of FFP hanging over you, so you manage to do a bit of wheeling and dealing to bring in some badly needed more experienced heads. You sell 2 of your players for near £1.5m and you attempt to bring in a striker (Assombalonga) but are informed there is no money for the deal and he goes to Peterborough for £1.3m and scores 6 goals in his first 7 games. You start the new season trying to mould your new team around a new philosophy which will take time to bed-in. Sadly you don't start too well and only pick up 1 point in your first 3 home games. Some fans begin getting on your back and calling for your head. Do you walk? Do you feel you deserve to be sacked? Or do you feel you need to be given the time to turn things around? Look, I'm as frustrated as everyone. Today was incredibly disappointing, but even more so because the player O'Driscoll wanted ended up being the best one on the pitch for the opposition. It was not good today, but it will get better and we must give the manager time. This is not a game, it's not fantasy, it's not the moneybags modern shite that is the premier league - success DOES NOT come by changing your manager every 9 months. Stability is required. But with stability comes a need for patience and an understanding from all of us that things will not always be rosy, we will struggle at times, there are better teams in this division than us. We are not yet equipped to get out of this league, but we are trying to build something that can be. We won't ever put anything onto the foundations of this if we sack the boss every year. The situation of this club is dire. We are severely hampered by mistakes of the past, not being frugal with our cash and getting through 4 managers in 4 years. We need to sit back, take stock, realise we're up shit street and give the boss the time to do his VERY DIFFICULT job without ridiculing and booing the players. Sometimes it won't be good enough and they might deserve a grilling, but we as fans have to be more educated than this and be patient - this isn't the squad which will end up getting us promoted, but it's foundations are being put in place. Some of the players being brought in now won't end up being good enough and will have to be moved on - that is no different to EVERY other club in the Country. Every transfer O'Driscoll makes will not be the final solution to that position. This is a gradual rebuild and it will take any manager (given the constraints) more than 1 full transfer window to put it all right. There will be one or two transitional seasons where it won't all go our way. In my mind, this current manager should not even be questioned until at least 20-25 games into the season. If at that point there are no positive signs then rightly questions might be asked. Until that point I can only hope others will allow this kind of patience. Remember where this club is at the moment and remember what we want to become. Continual managerial change will not achieve our ambitions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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