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Wilbs dropped from the premier league to league 1 he was quite clearly going to be a half decent player at league 1 standard and he turned out to be outstanding, but sordell hasn't been great in the championship and if this is true he wouldn't add to anything we've got in JoKo or Agard maybe even Wes is he gets a spell upfront 

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Can't believe he is only 24 still. Seems to have been around a while. Great age and can still turn into a decent player even if his record hasn't been great. Some decent fees have been paid for him so people must see something in him.

He seems to be quicker than Agard as well from what little I have seen of him so would add something a bit extra.

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Obviously signing a free agent after bidding mega bucks for strikers is a bit of a come down but with 4 of our allowed match day loan players already accounted for this could be a sensible option and I reckon a realistic one.

a years contract with an option for extension might be the way to go. It wouldn't surprise me if this is a route we will be taking and the Bolton midfielder may be also of interest. 

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24 years old

Averaged a goal every 5 games (so roughly 8 or 9 a season at best if injury free)

Will want biggish wages

No thanks 

 

 

 

24 years old.

Averaged a goal every 3 games for his first club.

You or I have no idea what wages he will want.

Short term contract, why not?.

As pointed out, seems like a player who has lost his way.

 

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24 years old

Averaged a goal every 5 games (so roughly 8 or 9 a season at best if injury free)

Will want biggish wages

No thanks 

Easy to use misleading stats. A lot of those appearances seem to be as substitute.

45 Goals in a 105 Starts in all competitions - See, I can do it to!

Either way, I'd rather stick with Agard & Kodjia.

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To be fair it could be worth bringing him in until Jan on not great wages just to make the numbers on the bench.  Then if turns out to be good great if not saves us using up our loans until Jan .

I would personally see a striker from the academy but cotts doesn't seem to like to do this even if we only have 6 on the bench b 

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To be fair it could be worth bringing him in until Jan on not great wages just to make the numbers on the bench.  Then if turns out to be good great if not saves us using up our loans until Jan .

I would personally see a striker from the academy but cotts doesn't seem to like to do this even if we only have 6 on the bench b 

We already have 5 strikers (Wilbs, Kodjia, Agard, Robinson and Burns) for me we'd have to be convinced he was the equal of Agard and better than Robinson to add him to our squad.

As for filling the bench, with 2 new defenders signed and Freeman back from his ban we are in a much better place than we were against Burnley and I can see Wagstaff not getting on it, so no need to add unnecessarily.

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If we're not competing with other clubs for him wages might not be an issue. Cotts may see him as one he could improve. He did play for England under-21's and Bolton paid £2.5m for him in 2012 so must have been seen as a good prospect then, he's still got time on his side. Would be useful as a squad player to be used from the bench or start if we have injuries

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We really don't need him.

We've got 5 strikers already, including 2 recent signings and a very promising youngster in Wes who is at the stage of his development when Cotts. should chuck him in whenever the opportunity arises.

Unless Agard's struggling with an injury which will limit his appearances or Cotts. has made a snap decision that his Captain Wilbs. is suddenly not up to it  we've got more than enough firepower already.

Robinson will also expect games, and so he should.

 

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We really don't need him.

We've got 5 strikers already, including 2 recent signings and a very promising youngster in Wes who is at the stage of his development when Cotts. should chuck him in whenever the opportunity arises.

Unless Agard's struggling with an injury which will limit his appearances or Cotts. has made a snap decision that his Captain Wilbs. is suddenly not up to it  we've got more than enough firepower already.

Robinson will also expect games, and so he should.

 

don't see how you can say we don't need him when Cotts has been trying to buy strikers so I guess he thinks differently :). Robinson and Wes are also not being used as out and out strikers.  Now I know he is not the mega bucks signing of Gayle and Gray but we can't buy anyone now anyway so a 24 year old striker on a free transfer on short term contract if the wages are right seems to be a relative low risk investment 

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don't see how you can say we don't need him when Cotts has been trying to buy strikers so I guess he thinks differently :). Robinson and Wes are also not being used as out and out strikers.  Now I know he is not the mega bucks signing of Gayle and Gray but we can't buy anyone now anyway so a 24 year old striker on a free transfer on short term contract if the wages are right seems to be a relative low risk investment 

Yes but Gray and Gayle are class players who are a lot better than what we've got. 

I'm not so sure that Sordell is better than Agard.

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Yes but Gray and Gayle are class players who are a lot better than what we've got. 

I'm not so sure that Sordell is better than Agard.

true about Gray and Gayle but we are unable to buy in class now so the only options available are to get another loanee or take a punt on a free transfer :-)

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don't see how you can say we don't need him when Cotts has been trying to buy strikers so I guess he thinks differently :). Robinson and Wes are also not being used as out and out strikers.  Now I know he is not the mega bucks signing of Gayle and Gray but we can't buy anyone now anyway so a 24 year old striker on a free transfer on short term contract if the wages are right seems to be a relative low risk investment 

I'm not giving Cotts.' opinion I'm giving mine and if he thinks another striker is needed then from the facts in the public domain we'll just have to disagree.

As i said above though he may be aware of problems with 1 or 2 of our current strikers which we know nothing about which would make the signing of a further striker more understandable. If he intends to persevere with Agard, and he's nearing full fitness, then it's hard to see why we'd need Sordell or similar.

He's often said he likes a lean squad, we're up to 20 now by my calculations - including 5 who can play up front - and we perhaps just need a midfielder to round the squad off nicely until January imo.

Would you be happy, for instance, if Wes Burns was left out of the match day 18 and his career path at City thwarted to accommodate a 6th forward in Sordell?

I certainly wouldn't.

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Yes but Gray and Gayle are class players who are a lot better than what we've got. 

I'm not so sure that Sordell is better than Agard.

Probably not but we need numbers, don't want to be using under-21's before they're ready if we have an injury crisis and can only make so many loan signings

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24 years old

Averaged a goal every 5 games (so roughly 8 or 9 a season at best if injury free)

Will want biggish wages

No thanks 

Oh, well that's that then.

Agard only got 14 last season in League One. 9 at the level Sordell has been at will do just fine if we contribute elsewhere too.

Suddenly we've brought in a couple of players and we're too good for a guy who's primarily played at Championship level through his short career?

A short term deal based on appearances/performances on a longer length is fine.

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24 years old

Averaged a goal every 5 games (so roughly 8 or 9 a season at best if injury free)

Will want biggish wages

No thanks 

 

 

 

Still Young, a lot of those games were coming on as a sub and some even in the premiership.  Apart from JK can't see any of our other strikers getting more than 9 goals if I'm honest. 

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Short term contract or pay as you play, is a lot better than getting a payed naff all and losing your fitness at the same time. 

Ive got a feeling that Wes could be the player we keep on looking for. Cameo role 20 minutes to go at that pace would be a real weapon, Sorddell not a bad choice either and on a free, which paves the way got a big money loan strikers or experienced midfielder.

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Don't see anything wrong in this?

Burns seems to have picked up a new position in RWB/RW, so no need for him to be upfront.
Agard still not fully fit, and Wilbraham is getting to the age where he can't play a full 90 week in week out, that's been clear to see the past few games.

Sordell definitely seems like the type of player who had a big future but has been misguided along the lines somewhere. A type of player Cotts would be able to put him back on track. Short contract till January, see how he gets on.

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I wouldn't see Sordell guy as getting in the way of Wes's development as I don't think Wes is a striker. For me he is a winger or wing back. I don't think he will make it as an central attacker.

I have the same opinion, just as he needs that extra space to knock the ball into and get past a man. 

However he has been playing down the middle for Wales U21's and scored 2 the other day.

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To be fair it could be worth bringing him in until Jan on not great wages just to make the numbers on the bench

That is right up there with 'pay as you play' contracts for ideas that no footballer in their right mind would sign.

What next, zero hours football contracts?  

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That is right up there with 'pay as you play' contracts for ideas that no footballer in their right mind would sign.

What next, zero hours football contracts?  

It may depend on what other offers he receives .

 

 

 

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It may depend on what other offers he receives .

 

 

 

can anyone clarify which members of our current squad are on a deal until January (i dont mean loan players) or on a pay as you play or appearance based contract at low rates.

Or indeed, if we have ever had a player on a contract like this.

Or indeed, if any league footballer has ever been on a contract like this?

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can anyone clarify which members of our current squad are on a deal until January (i dont mean loan players) or on a pay as you play or appearance based contract at low rates.

Or indeed, if we have ever had a player on a contract like this.

Or indeed, if any league footballer has ever been on a contract like this?

Wasn't Darren Caskey on a pay as you play contract? I'm sure it was either that or he was on a lower wage made up with a bigger appearance fee?

I could be completely wrong but am sure he virtually cost us nothing during his time here.

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Wasn't Darren Caskey on a pay as you play contract? I'm sure it was either that or he was on a lower wage made up with a bigger appearance fee?

I could be completely wrong but am sure he virtually cost us nothing during his time here.

he was on a trial and had three games with the reserves. And a shed load of cake.

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22 minutes ago, Big Red Rich said:

Just signed for Cov on a free having scored 5 in 25 last season for Colchester. 

Something not right there, is there?

Keeps getting clubs but whatever he might have had seems to have gone.

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On 6 September 2015 at 00:09, wallaceboy said:

Can't become a bad player overnight. Perhaps lost his confidence. Sc can get this back. Burnley have loads of striker's so obviously knew he wasn't gonna get a game.let's see what happens.

 After they join us many a signing has become a bad player overnight.

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