HLR Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 http://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/article/city-reiterate-no-swearing-policy-2696512.aspxhttp://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/article/city-reiterate-no-swearing-policy-2696512.aspx Sometimes I do wonder whether people at the club understand what It is like to be a football fan of a club you are whole heartedly passionate for.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lack of Action Man Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Good job they didn't see scarf man at Birmingham then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big C Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 http://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/article/city-reiterate-no-swearing-policy-2696512.aspxhttp://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/article/city-reiterate-no-swearing-policy-2696512.aspx Sometimes I do wonder whether people at the club understand what It is like to be a football fan of a club you are whole heartedly passionate for....To be fair they are only saying watch it in the Family areas, which I think is fair enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_BCFC Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 It is for family areas. Seems fair enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfOfWestStreet Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 My old man said be a Rovers fan, I said please go away I don't like your suggestion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curr Avon Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Lets hope so, because there's absolutely no excuse for swearing. It achieves nothing.See: http://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/article/city-reiterate-no-swearing-policy-2696512.aspx City reiterate "no swearing" policyClub ask supporters to mind language.City are proud holders of the Football League’s Family Excellence award and aim to make Ashton Gate a welcoming place for all. Recently, the club have received a significant amount of complaints from supporters about aggressive swearing in family areas in the Dolman and South Stands, resulting in parents and grandparents not bringing children to matches. Because of this, our stewards will increase the levels of monitoring in families, which will include the use of anonymous spotters in cases where complaints have been made about individuals. Supporters are asked to moderate their language where young children are present, and those who don’t will be reminded of their obligations under our Customer Charter. This states ‘the use of threatening behaviour, foul or abusive language is strictly forbidden and will result in arrest and/or ejection from the ground. The club may impose a ban for one or more matches’. Any supporter who feels that a fellow fan is using inappropriate language during a game should discreetly mention it to the nearest steward, who will take appropriate action without involving you. Alternatively, you can download http://www.kickitout.org/get-involved/report-it/the-kick-it-out-app which will give you the opportunity to report a wide range of inappropriate and abusive behaviours. The club asks for your help and co-operation in dealing with this serious issue.Read more at http://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/article/city-reiterate-no-swearing-policy-2696512.aspx#tU4SXbEaHh8wsoky.99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HLR Posted September 18, 2015 Author Share Posted September 18, 2015 To be fair they are only saying watch it in the Family areas, which I think is fair enoughHowever they say "Supporters are asked to moderate their language where young children are present" further down the article which I take to mean anywhere in the stadium where there are kids. I agree in family areas of the ground that people should watch their language, however to demand that in any other areas where there are kids that cant swear I think is a little bit farcical. There are family sections for a reason, so to allow people that don't wanna hear swearing to sit somewhere where it doesn't happen. But what get's my back up is the club implying, if there is a child within earshot elsewhere in the ground, then you mustn't swear... I don't want to have to go to the football and think I have got to watch my language just because there are people that may be offended. I go down the gate to watch the team I love, passions run high, I will swear and as will hundreds of others - I don't go down there to set an example to children. Plus, maybe the club should ask Cotts to drop Flint (I know he is partial to a swear word on the field) - just in case a child hears. Or tell opposition fans not to sing/chant songs that may include swear words in. Nah, didn't think so.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Colby-Tit Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Bollox to that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beaverface Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 I did have a little chuckle when we equalised against Leeds and whole ground sang out a version of "two nil and you....fluffed...it up" !!There's no controlling that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HLR Posted September 18, 2015 Author Share Posted September 18, 2015 I did have a little chuckle when we equalised against Leeds and whole ground sang out a version of "two nil and you....fluffed...it up" !!There's no controlling that.Don't say it too loudly, anyone with a purchase history for Leeds game may now be given a one game ban! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 with Cotts on the same page calling for "hostile" Ashton gate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 "I say you chaps, we're going to be rather horrid to you" "He's here, he's there, he's in quite a lot of places at the same time" etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Personally I think a request not to swear in front of children in designated family areas is an entirely reasonable one. They are designated as such for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 It is for family areas. Seems fair enough?As someone who sits in that area I have to say I've not witnessed any bad language. If I did I would actually ask the persons to be mindful of those around them. However on the whole it's all families anyway and therefore I can only imagine is the areas next to it that are the issue. I don't know how you can stop it totally anyway.. if any sort of chant with profanity is sung around the ground what can you do.. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Red Rich Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Personally I think a request not to swear in front of children in designated family areas is an entirely reasonable one. They are designated as such for a reason.agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HLR Posted September 18, 2015 Author Share Posted September 18, 2015 Personally I think a request not to swear in front of children in designated family areas is an entirely reasonable one. They are designated as such for a reason.agreed, but when they state you must moderate your language where young children are present further down article, I get impression that is in relation to all other areas of ground. Of course in family area, no swearing should be a given Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 It's seems pretty pointless to me. You are not going to stop people swearing, it just comes out naturally to some people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 However they say "Supporters are asked to moderate their language where young children are present" further down the article which I take to mean anywhere in the stadium where there are kids. I agree in family areas of the ground that people should watch their language, however to demand that in any other areas where there are kids that cant swear I think is a little bit farcical. There are family sections for a reason, so to allow people that don't wanna hear swearing to sit somewhere where it doesn't happen. But what get's my back up is the club implying, if there is a child within earshot elsewhere in the ground, then you mustn't swear... I don't want to have to go to the football and think I have got to watch my language just because there are people that may be offended. I go down the gate to watch the team I love, passions run high, I will swear and as will hundreds of others - I don't go down there to set an example to children. Plus, maybe the club should ask Cotts to drop Flint (I know he is partial to a swear word on the field) - just in case a child hears. Or tell opposition fans not to sing/chant songs that may include swear words in. Nah, didn't think so....I confess I haven't read all the thread, but the highlighted bit is the issue.i take a couple of young uns with me, and we sit in the SS. There are a lot of youngsters sat around us, we aren't in the family area by choice.at the last home game there was a youngish bloke with a couple of young girls sat to my left and in front a couple of rows, he was swearing quite a lot and quite loudly to the point where a guy a number of rows in front of him turned round and complained, as did another fella sat a few seats along from him.He stopped swearing, and in fact went quite, then the 2-0 chant started up, swear word clearly included and audible all around the ground, at the top of his voice the fella shouted out NO SWEARING, and I completely get his point, how can you justify stopping individuals swearing alone when you do nothing about a group doing it?By the way, although his language was very colourful, personally I wasn't either offended or embarrassed by it, as far as I am concerned it is part and parcel of football, and although I now refrain from swearing outloud because I have the youngsters with me, I will admit to having used similar language myself.It wouldn't surprise me if the two guys who complained used similar language themselves in other situations without thinking it is unacceptable.i agree with another poster, let the FA put a stop to players using the F word to match officials which is clearly seen if not heard by youngsters on TV all the time, and City can start by stopping our own players and manager using similar language, indeed I was told that Cotts had been heard last season using the C word to a linesman, although I have no proof this was the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Swearing is part of our language ...it's in the dictionary you know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 I agree if you sit in a family area you should be respectful that is just that, a family area. Elsewhere in the ground equally it should be accepted that swearing will be heard.yes children who aren't guided by their parents might repeat what is heard away from the ground, but as people say footballers swear all the time. Who is going to be the greater role model, the bloke who has had too much to drink and let's out a few swear words or one of our player cussing in frustration? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Marsh Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 ******* make me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Colby-Tit Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 This swearing at football thing, it's outrageous I tell you. I mean, it's not as if any kids at AG would be aware of any of these swear words from elsewhere, like their friends, parents, siblings or the school playground.And what about the consequences of these poor kids hearing swear words? The results could be devastating for their lives, they will probably end up as criminals.If only kids would giggle when they heard swear words, that would be much better. I can't imagine that ever happening though.The club should gag everyone over the age of 5 entering the ground. We all have obligations under the Customer Charter after all.Won't somebody think of the children? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Thankfully I just sit in silence in the Dolman until 10 minutes before the end when I start to make good my exit from the stadium so this doesn't apply to me.My big concern is that someone suggests there might be an effing fire drill though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HLR Posted September 18, 2015 Author Share Posted September 18, 2015 I confess I haven't read all the thread, but the highlighted bit is the issue.i take a couple of young uns with me, and we sit in the SS. There are a lot of youngsters sat around us, we aren't in the family area by choice.at the last home game there was a youngish bloke with a couple of young girls sat to my left and in front a couple of rows, he was swearing quite a lot and quite loudly to the point where a guy a number of rows in front of him turned round and complained, as did another fella sat a few seats along from him.He stopped swearing, and in fact went quite, then the 2-0 chant started up, swear word clearly included and audible all around the ground, at the top of his voice the fella shouted out NO SWEARING, and I completely get his point, how can you justify stopping individuals swearing alone when you do nothing about a group doing it?By the way, although his language was very colourful, personally I wasn't either offended or embarrassed by it, as far as I am concerned it is part and parcel of football, and although I now refrain from swearing outloud because I have the youngsters with me, I will admit to having used similar language myself.It wouldn't surprise me if the two guys who complained used similar language themselves in other situations without thinking it is unacceptable.i agree with another poster, let the FA put a stop to players using the F word to match officials which is clearly seen if not heard by youngsters on TV all the time, and City can start by stopping our own players and manager using similar language, indeed I was told that Cotts had been heard last season using the C word to a linesman, although I have no proof this was the case.I was sat in the Williams near the City dugout last season and have to say Cotts is worse than majority of the fans to be fair, he gives it a right old go. Think the thing is, people should be able to say what they like, within reason of course. In my opinion it is the parent/grandparent that has taken the kid to the game to then explain to the kid they don't need to copy individuals that are spouting off. They know before they take the kid that it's the kind of language that is used up and down football clubs across the country. Not at all black and white, however feel the club have taken a slightly off centred approach towards the matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 agreed, but when they state you must moderate your language where young children are present further down article, I get impression that is in relation to all other areas of ground. Of course in family area, no swearing should be a givenI kinda agree with that too though as a general rule, simply out of decency. However if the guardian turns a blind eye to their own child swearing, or if guardian doesn't curb their language in front of a young child then neither shall I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aizoon Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Personally I think a request not to swear in front of children in designated family areas is an entirely reasonable one. They are designated as such for a reason.Absolutely. And if this was what was asked... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HLR Posted September 18, 2015 Author Share Posted September 18, 2015 MODS it might be a good idea to close this thread - I feel that it is too heavy. We don't generally discuss such moralistic issues on here - I feel faint. Bring back threads about food vouchers and the return of Matt Smith etc etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 agreed, but when they state you must moderate your language where young children are present further down article, I get impression that is in relation to all other areas of ground. Of course in family area, no swearing should be a givenI accept the article is open to interpretation, although personally I took it to mean family areas as these were what was referred to at the outset.I'm not a big swearer myself, but I do think that if you choose to sit with children outside of the family area, you must accept what comes with the territory. Likewise, inside the family areas the onus is rightly on the grown ups to moderate their language. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Colby-Tit Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 The club should provide a designated swearing area outside the ground (next to the evil smokers), so all swearers can congregate and a have massive ***ing shouty, sweary session before the game to relieve the tension.Or, the stewards should patrol with swear boxes. We could afford Messi by Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 The club should provide a designated swearing area outside the ground (next to the evil smokers), so all swearers can congregate and a have massive ***ing shouty, sweary session before the game to relieve the tension.Or, the stewards should patrol with swear boxes. We could afford Messi by Sunday. All the songs will have to be rewritten. ..The Terrible Bristol Rovers went to Rome to see the Pope perhaps ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Seems to fly in the face of what Steve Cottrell is asking for from the fans against reading. I know you can make a noise without swearing.... But it's a bit of a problem when Come on you reds is about the only chant with no swearing in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Colby-Tit Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Come on you reds is about the only chant with no swearing in it.I'm sorry, but that chant could be construed as being supportive of a communist regime.Think of the children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 I've far more of an issue with people who appear to be quite aggressive - foaming at the mouth, red faced and on the verge of out-of-control.Swearing doesn't worry me or my children. Adults who look like they are about to lose self-control because they can't handle a perceived mistake by the ref are the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheshire_red Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 FFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Colby-Tit Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 I've far more of an issue with people who appear to be quite aggressive - foaming at the mouth, red faced and on the verge of out-of-control.Swearing doesn't worry me or my children. Adults who look like they are about to lose self-control because they can't handle a perceived mistake by the ref are the issue. That's a bit harsh on SC. He's a passionate bloke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 i don't just shout at swear words for the fun of it. But if I get heated a for **** sakes comes out or something like that. It's a reaction and I think for the most part I'm drowned out by others doing the same type of thing at those moments. I am sure I could stop all together but it pops out through passion. I think that's understandable and I can't always be conscious of a child sitting 3 rows behind me. If there is one next to me easier to tone it down but other than that, im going to enjoy my experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RED4LIFE Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 He's here , he's there , we're not allowed to swear , Gerry Gow , Gerry Gow . nothing new under the sun . arse . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 http://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/article/city-reiterate-no-swearing-policy-2696512.aspxhttp://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/article/city-reiterate-no-swearing-policy-2696512.aspx Sometimes I do wonder whether people at the club understand what It is like to be a football fan of a club you are whole heartedly passionate for....I swear sometimes at football if angry/passionate but would not swear in family section or around kids. So I'm not really sure your dig at the club is fair. Surely as grown ups you would appreciate what's acceptable and what's not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezo Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Maybe some ear plugs could be handed out for parents - then you wouldn't know if there kid was hearing swearing or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenkibby. Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Maybe some ear plugs could be handed out for parents - then you wouldn't know if there kid was hearing swearing or not.And also the kids would be able to swear like f...!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team In Keynsham Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 To be fair they are only saying watch it in the Family areas, which I think is fair enoughI used to sit with my niece in the family section of the Lower Dolman: I recall the NY day win over Cardiff, and giving Craig Bellamy a whole heap of abuse for no reason other than just because. I suspect my niece may have learned a whole new set of words, and also saw a side of her uncle she may not previously have thought existed. Possibly not my proudest uncular moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 kinnel....the amount of kids I hear swearing....more than the adults tbf.Is this also going to apply to players and coaching staff...it should do...what's the difference. Flint going off on one in front of the family enclosure....what's the difference?Dare someone to report a player or coaching staff to a steward and see what happens ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marina's Rolls Royce Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 No need for stewards- just get the elderly woman two rows in front of me at the Burnley match (SS) who went mental with a couple of guys behind her for swearing. They didn't do it again - she was terrifying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Seems to fly in the face of what Steve Cottrell is asking for from the fans against reading. I know you can make a noise without swearing.... But it's a bit of a problem when Come on you reds is about the only chant with no swearing in it.Apart from;-- Keep the red flag flying high- Come on city, come on city, come on city, come on- I am a cider drinker- C I T Y- red army....and that's just off the top of my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richwwtk Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Hearing people swear at football has always been part of the fun for my son when he's gone, it's also almost obligatory if he wants to join in the songs. He was told before the first match that there would be swearing and that what is said at football stays at football.All kids know the swear words by the time they are at school anyway, they just know not to repeat it when adults are around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 I had been about to post a similar list off the top of my head when I saw yours.Swearing at football is always going to happen, requesting for people in the family section to be mindful is perfectly reasonable and that's how I took the whole article to be.I could not agree more. I actually come from a strict Christian family and go to games with my dad and, until he died, my Grandad, who was a church minister - therefore swearing has never personally featured in my matchday experience! I've still managed to sing plenty of songs over the years though! However that's not to say people shouldn't swear at football - each to their own. Just not in the family section! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Team In Keynsham Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 I had been about to post a similar list off the top of my head when I saw yours.Swearing at football is always going to happen, requesting for people in the family section to be mindful is perfectly reasonable and that's how I took the whole article to be.Grimsby away, early 1990s: some copper came on to the away terrace and announced to the few hundred there that we could sing whatever we wanted but any swearing and he would chuck that person out. He then turned his back to the crowd, and got multiple F-offs from all corners. He turned back around, and you could see in his eyes that he realised he had no hope of arresting everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfOfWestStreet Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Grimsby away, early 1990s: some copper came on to the away terrace and announced to the few hundred there that we could sing whatever we wanted but any swearing and he would chuck that person out. He then turned his back to the crowd, and got multiple F-offs from all corners. He turned back around, and you could see in his eyes that he realised he had no hope of arresting everyone.I remember once in the east end an over excited copper gave me an ear bashing for giving the opposition keeper the bird as he ran towards his goal. I laughed and asked him if he'd ever been to a football match before to which point a group around me gave him the old W******, W******, W******* treatment.His sergeant pulled him back and told him to calm down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Although not offended by swearing if you see a child near you I think it is only decent to at least tone it down a bit. Remember one game as a kid with my old man where the bloke in front swore for the entire game and every time he did he turned around and apologised. Must have said sorry about 100 times that game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Colby-Tit Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Apart from;-- Keep the red flag flying highToo political- Come on city, come on city, come on city, come onWe all love City, but that is just disgusting- I am a cider drinkerPromotes alcohol- C I T YDiscriminatory against lower case letters- red armyToo political....and that's just off the top of my head.THINK OF THE CHILDREN MAN!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Some people never never swear. Some swear occasionally. Some use a swear word in every sentence. It doesn't really matter, up to a point, as long as people respect others. Singing "My old man said be a Rovers fan, I said **** of ******* you're a ****" may be fun for those who swear all the time, but it ignores those in the rest of the ground who don't swear all the time and have children with them. Some say swearing is part of the football experience, but I'd say it's due to a lack of a full vocabulary. The creative, humorous songs have far more affect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 If you're taking your kids to the football they're going to hear swearing. It's not a big deal, tell them not to repeat it and then stop whinging about it. The precious little flowers are going to face worse in life I promise you.It's disappointing the degree to which the club seem determined to sanitise the game. They can **** right off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Some people never never swear. Some swear occasionally. Some use a swear word in every sentence. It doesn't really matter, up to a point, as long as people respect others. Singing "My old man said be a Rovers fan, I said **** of ******* you're a ****" may be fun for those who swear all the time, but it ignores those in the rest of the ground who don't swear all the time and have children with them. Some say swearing is part of the football experience, but I'd say it's due to a lack of a full vocabulary. The creative, humorous songs have far more affect. Affect or effect.....both are just words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickJ Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 "anonymous spotters "**** me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 agreed, but when they state you must moderate your language where young children are present further down article, I get impression that is in relation to all other areas of ground. Of course in family area, no swearing should be a givenIs there any particular reason why you might not wish to....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Bollox to that---- --- Colby your a ----ps.. I think the club have a valid point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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