RedorDead BCFC Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Looked at Barnsley today and saw Sam Winnal scored so wiki' him. Scoreing 1-3 games but went on to get a ha trick. Don't know much about him but is he worth a punt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldstandrobin Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Can just imagine SL and the board ' well after Middlesborough, I thought we had cracked it' SHI*,we may have to bring in Plan D and get a Top Class Manager who can attract top class players as well and pay them.....BCFC just cant do it on the cheap can we !!!!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 1 minute ago, Dark Wood Covert said: Yes the last 12 games of Cotterills tenure were impressive weren't they.... He had to go, not Pembos fault really is it?! He's just doing the best he can and I am now believing with some of the 'rumours' flying around that SC wasn't entirely to blame, so who does that leave?. The biggest mistake was not sounding a replacement out before firing SC, that is amateur hour IMO. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmersonsRed Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 2 minutes ago, Redtone said: Looked at Barnsley today and saw Sam Winnal scored so wiki' him. Scoreing 1-3 games but went on to get a ha trick. Don't know much about him but is he worth a punt? No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchay Red Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 5 minutes ago, EstoniaTallinnRed said: Well if Ayling hadn't made that mistake and had passed back, we may have got a draw. Oh good. Thanks, that's quite comforting (Not having a go at you, just totally fed up!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedorDead BCFC Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 (edited) 3 minutes ago, EmersonsRed said: No. 3 minutes ago, EmersonsRed said: No. Cheers, as I said only noticed him on wiki, as I was bored and didn't want to do the hoovering and the Mrs don't let me look on my normal sites when she's in the house Edited January 23, 2016 by Redtone 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bemmyredjeff Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 4 minutes ago, Esmond Million's Bung said: and I am now believing with some of the 'rumours' flying around that SC wasn't entirely to blame, so who does that leave?. The biggest mistake was not sounding a replacement out before firing SC, that is amateur hour IMO. Music to your ears isn't it !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EstoniaTallinnRed Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 3 minutes ago, Frenchay Red said: Oh good. Thanks, that's quite comforting (Not having a go at you, just totally fed up!) Understand! Exactly how I feel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeAman08 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Well it's more of the same. Listened on the Leeds link posted earlier(thank you by the way) and they weren't too impressed with Leeds either. They also noted we had failed to score in 7 of our last 8 away matches(now 8 of 9). Sounded like Kodjia was lively but he can't do it on his own. They stated as much that he's got something about him but has the look of a frustrated player and he should be. We've wasted a season and wasted a good player. We will make money on him in the summer but not nearly as much as we could have of we had added some quality around him. I don't think many are frustrated just because we are poor. Think we are frustrated because we are poor and it's still as if we are ok. Not many convincing reinforcements. Sounded as if Gladwin was poor. They scored with a new CB on the pitch(have no clue if it mattered but all there is to go on). Kodjia is asked to do everything to score. Didn't even need a bunch of talent in every spot. Leeds bought Dallas and he's a constant threat. Didn't sound as if they had one on the other side. Not a surprising result and you can magnify a mistake by Ayling but you have to look at the midfield because they don't create or score and they often lose the ball making it harder for the defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperor Palpatine Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 5 minutes ago, Esmond Million's Bung said: and I am now believing with some of the 'rumours' flying around that SC wasn't entirely to blame, so who does that leave?. The biggest mistake was not sounding a replacement out before firing SC, that is amateur hour IMO. Obviously... but SC should shoulder the blame for the on field problems. Like I said before, SC should've gone after the Derby game. It would've given the board time to appoint someone, for that man to assess the squad and make the relevant changes. My opinion of course. Monumental cock up from the SL/board and as you quite rightly say amateur hour all round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 But, but, Pembo was the Messiah last week? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cider_boy Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 19 minutes ago, ciderup said: Leeds sounded dreadful and we still couldn't beat them. We sounded very poor in the 2nd half. We need a Manager and we need him VERY quickly or we are heading straight back down. If we don't get a new manager soon, we will be back down. Then I think we should approach a manager with a proven record of getting promoted from league 1, some like Steve Cotterill? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 1 minute ago, bemmyredjeff said: Music to your ears isn't it !! Sorry you've totally lost me with that one. I have no problem with SC's sacking, but I feel with what is becoming apparent now that it should have been done much earlier and replacement lined up in the interim. I think it's pathetic to be honest, I think SL has got this totally wrong, it is obvious now that there was friction between the 2 of them but it was allowed to continue, the argument from many was players wouldn't sign because of SC, so what exactly can the excuse be now he's gone?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EstoniaTallinnRed Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Tweets and calls coming into RB saying Pearson needed now. Sorry, but I don't think Pearson will come as he would want complete control and SL wants a Head Coach not a Manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 5 minutes ago, Dark Wood Covert said: Obviously... but SC should shoulder the blame for the on field problems. Like I said before, SC should've gone after the Derby game. It would've given the board time to appoint someone, for that man to assess the squad and make the relevant changes. My opinion of course. Monumental cock up from the SL/board and as you quite rightly say amateur hour all round. Only when we know exactly why our summer recruiting went so badly and who was to blame for that disaster and why subsequent targets turned us down and continue to turn us down, SC has gone and players are still turning us down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Pearson and similar types of manager won't reach the top levels of the game if they can't work with a sporting director or a director of football..the board merit a lot of flak in many areas, but that model is the future of the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 The Colourless Chameleon that is Bristol City?………One Great season squandered by failing to prepare and plan ahead, whoever it is/they are, they are culpable of badly letting down a very loyal support……..I wonder if Lansdown ever plans ahead in his multi million pound business? I would guess he does. Well now the powers that sold season tickets on the back of leading us into the cherished championship,,,,,need to pull out they're f……ing finger, stop prevaricating and go in with some large bids for players that the selling clubs cannot turn down, and pay some wages that are large enough to convince players to join. They failed to prepare, and now need to pay the price to save this club from what is slowly becoming inevitable relegation 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenkibby. Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 It sounded like its getting more and more likely that Kodjia will never pass the ball to a teammate ever!! I know our midfield never score but have they stopped making runs into the box when he has the ball? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchay Red Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 15 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: Yes but you would have also read that Williams is shit at left back so we had to drop him I read a lot on here, much of which I don't necessarily believe. I'm not entirely sure that the above comment falls within that category though. GC over DW any day of the week for me, but he's gone and was on a 3-1 defeat today, so what do I know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 I fear that even though there are some dreadful teams in this league we are worse because we are too naïve . We are getting done by more intelligent ,street wise teams and desperately need an experienced campaigner tp pull the strings and a finisher . Today ,same old scene , defensive errors and lack of finishing meaning we come away point less again . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shtanley Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Can someone who was there please give me a good match summary, sounds like we had a fair share of the chances but couldn't quite finish off the move in the final third. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjak Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 4 minutes ago, stephenkibby. said: It sounded like its getting more and more likely that Kodjia will never pass the ball to a teammate ever!! I know our midfield never score but have they stopped making runs into the box when he has the ball? He probably no longer trusts them to do anything with it…………and who can blame him? Mon Dieu!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenkibby. Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 2 minutes ago, maxjak said: He probably no longer trusts them to do anything with it…………and who can blame him? Mon Dieu!! He will be much happier next week when he has help from the 4 new signings. Oh and the new manager of coarse !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 3 minutes ago, maxjak said: He probably no longer trusts them to do anything with it…………and who can blame him? Mon Dieu!! Kodjia is desperate to score hence why he does n't pass and hence why he is n't putting his chances away . Relaxe mec . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldstandrobin Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 9 minutes ago, stephenkibby. said: He will be much happier next week when he has help from the 4 new signings. Oh and the new manager of coarse !!! please please please, its not much to ask .........is it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 35 minutes ago, Esmond Million's Bung said: and I am now believing with some of the 'rumours' flying around that SC wasn't entirely to blame, so who does that leave?. The biggest mistake was not sounding a replacement out before firing SC, that is amateur hour IMO. Successful businesses always do risk management and have contingency plans. It was obvious that Cotts was losing the plot for months, so any sensible board should have had plans in place for a replacement, should he be sacked. "Sensible" obviously doesn't apply to the City board 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 3 minutes ago, pongo88 said: Successful businesses always do risk management and have contingency plans. It was obvious that Cotts was losing the plot for months, so any sensible board should have had plans in place for a replacement, should he be sacked. "Sensible" obviously doesn't apply to the City board The board were split on sacking Cotts in November , who prevailed ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperor Palpatine Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 31 minutes ago, Esmond Million's Bung said: Only when we know exactly why our summer recruiting went so badly and who was to blame for that disaster and why subsequent targets turned us down and continue to turn us down, SC has gone and players are still turning us down. Why would players come to us post-Cotterill? We have no permanent manager so there is no guarantee that new players would fit into the managers system/plans plus we are bottom 3. I do not blame players not wanting to come here given the last 3 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo II Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Frustrating performance. Played better than them in the first half, but was clear Byan and Freeman on our left were the weak links, and second half, with the reorganisation of our defence, they looked to exploit that, which is what led to the goal. We need a specialist left back, and to learn how to make the final ball count/release the ball quicker - it's a pathology, in that we seem to value retaining possession over causing the opposition problems, and this kills us. Freeman was not terrible today but is probably the worst offender in dithering over making a choice of play, often resulting in going backwards. I'd like to say how well Bobby Reid did when he came on too. All this bollocks about him not being physical enough; won and retained the ball several times, and is the one person who looks up and gets the ball moving quickly - he did well when in for Gladwin, who was visibly tiring, but also put in a shift, and looked a decent addition, if a little 'blunt', which is to be expected for someone with so few minutes under his belt. And a word on their goal scorer; looked a ridiculous lump the majority of the game, with a first touch more like a pass in all but about two occasions, an inability to hold up the ball despite being built like a tank, and even having the ball strike him in the back of the head when he tried to run on to it. But he scored, and that is what we lack; a poacher, who is in the right place at the right time. Kodjia needs to stay on bloody side, but he did show flashes of brillaince; tricking his way into the box first half to draw a save, and winning a corner from a very tight angle second half from a snapshot. The one time he WAS on side from a smart through ball second half he was flagged, but then the officials were both inconstant and flat-out bad all game, so what can you do? That was a close match, but if we were more dynamic in possession, weren't lacking a specialist left back, and didn't have to disrupt our defence due to Baker getting booked for throwing himself in to challenges (he was identifying and aggressively defending the fact Bryan was having a mare, but still) then that could have gone either way. On to Brum, where 3 points could jump us above MK, who won't be playing - that would be a hell of a boost. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidercity1987 Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 Can someone, particularly those giving him dogshit for it, explain how the goal was Ayling's fault? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 15 minutes ago, cidercity1987 said: Can someone, particularly those giving him dogshit for it, explain how the goal was Ayling's fault? I suspect those saying it hadn't actually seen it and were relying on radio or internet text commentary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southport Red Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 1 minute ago, Northern Red said: I suspect those saying it hadn't actually seen it and were relying on radio or internet text commentary. Yes, the radio commentary laid the blame squarely on Ayling, that's why Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted January 23, 2016 Share Posted January 23, 2016 1 hour ago, Dark Wood Covert said: Why would players come to us post-Cotterill? We have no permanent manager so there is no guarantee that new players would fit into the managers system/plans plus we are bottom 3. I do not blame players not wanting to come here given the last 3 months. i'm sure you mean the past 8 months, the past 3 months is a direct consequence of the inactivity between May and September. Something went badly wrong and I suspect that SL had more than a hand in what went badly wrong during those months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted January 24, 2016 Author Share Posted January 24, 2016 (edited) I assume this has been mentioned elsewhere but no harm in repeating...below is part of Pemberton’s excuse for the team losing today. “I was at Leeds for four years so I know what it is like to play here. Some of my players were experiencing the mental test of playing at Elland Road for the first time." You must be kidding! Bristol City football manager making out it was a tough mental test. Well if they are not prepared mentally then you should go mate. NOW! I am flabbergasted by this response. Edited January 24, 2016 by havanatopia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 15 hours ago, cidercity1987 said: Can someone, particularly those giving him dogshit for it, explain how the goal was Ayling's fault? Well said, I thought the missed header by Flint when the cross came in was the main reason the guy notched... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 5 hours ago, havanatopia said: I assume this has been mentioned elsewhere but no harm in repeating...below is part of Pemberton’s excuse for the team losing today. “I was at Leeds for four years so I know what it is like to play here. Some of my players were experiencing the mental test of playing at Elland Road for the first time." You must be kidding! Bristol City football manager making out it was a tough mental test. Well if they are not prepared mentally then you should go mate. NOW! I am flabbergasted by this response. Definitely a strange statement, but perhaps he was trying to find yet another reason for City losing a match we should have won. At least he was civil in the interview, unlike Cotts, who would have snarled at the interviewer, blamed the ref, the pitch, the tea lady, the conjunction of the planets in the sky etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dereks no1 Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Can someone do the ratings??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 19 hours ago, cidercity1987 said: Can someone, particularly those giving him dogshit for it, explain how the goal was Ayling's fault? Yes, I'm confused as well! I just watched the highlights and don't really understand. On the radio they said he should've passed it back to the keeper, which made me think the Leeds player sneaked in and scored, but it didn't look like that at all! dodgy defending in the box more like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shtanley Posted January 24, 2016 Share Posted January 24, 2016 Gladwin had some nice flashes of skill. Hopefully he gets up to speed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted January 24, 2016 Author Share Posted January 24, 2016 14 minutes ago, dereks no1 said: Can someone do the ratings??? Corra still ahead of Eastenders? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted January 24, 2016 Author Share Posted January 24, 2016 3 hours ago, pongo88 said: Definitely a strange statement, but perhaps he was trying to find yet another reason for City losing a match we should have won. At least he was civil in the interview, unlike Cotts, who would have snarled at the interviewer, blamed the ref, the pitch, the tea lady, the conjunction of the planets in the sky etc Well, if he cannot get them in the right mental state he certainly should not be saying it nor be in the job. I like him as a number two; i hope he is taken out of the hot seat as a matter of urgency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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