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7 minutes ago, richwwtk said:

If City really have to approach other managers whilst we still have a very much employed manager here, you would hope that they would at least be an improvement on the incumbent.

Phil Brown is not such an improvement.

You're right , what has Brown achieved compared to LJ ? 

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3 minutes ago, Major Isewater said:

You're right , what has Brown achieved compared to LJ ? 

He has been around a lot longer than LJ. I am still of the the (possibly mistaken given the majority view on here) opinion that Lee Johnson will, in time, prove himself to be a decent manager.

Whether or not he does it here is another matter not in my hands.

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41 minutes ago, OddBallJim said:

I was always under the impression he had a feud with us as a club or even SL for some reason? 

Am I dreaming this up? Even I'm not sure now...

You're talking shite, Jimbo

But if you're not, and it means that it stops him coming here then I'll get behind your make believe feud!

Always found it odd that he's on talksport breakfast now and then through the season. Not something I'd want a manager of mine doing

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3 hours ago, Major Isewater said:

Seems to have found his mojo again , knows  the Championship and rivals our last successful manager in the hairgel stakes .

Can only be a winner , No ? 

Not bad, but we'd be better off with Newcastle Brown on an intravenous drip with tomorrow week in mind.

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3 hours ago, Major Isewater said:

Seems to have found his mojo again , knows  the Championship and rivals our last successful manager in the hairgel stakes .

Can only be a winner , No ? 

Good shout, Major.

But only if he brought in Dean Windass as his No2, could I take your suggestion seriously .

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4 hours ago, Major Isewater said:

Seems to have found his mojo again , knows  the Championship and rivals our last successful manager in the hairgel stakes .

Can only be a winner , No ? 

So as you would expect, southend are playing in the image of their manager.

well organised at the back

in your face and big and strong

bullying teams in L1 at the moment.

Certainly did that against Fleetwood recently.

two best in forms teams in the laegue at present.

only fleetwoods fitness at the end got them out of jail.

imo he will get them into the playoffs

 

i watched them in L2 last year as well, and they did the same, im not sure though how effective that will be in the championship though, he will need to adjust their style of play i think.

but he is demonstrating he knows how to handle the various tiers of English football.

but all credit to him and a good shout major 

 

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30 minutes ago, djb6162 said:

So as you would expect, southend are playing in the image of their manager.

well organised at the back

in your face and big and strong

bullying teams in L1 at the moment.

Certainly did that against Fleetwood recently.

two best in forms teams in the laegue at present.

only fleetwoods fitness at the end got them out of jail.

imo he will get them into the playoffs

 

i watched them in L2 last year as well, and they did the same, im not sure though how effective that will be in the championship though, he will need to adjust their style of play i think.

but he is demonstrating he knows how to handle the various tiers of English football.

but all credit to him and a good shout major 

 

How is Wes getting on at Fleetwood? Settling in?

Seen his name a few times in the line ups? Hope it's a success for him.

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7 hours ago, Major Isewater said:

Seems to have found his mojo again , knows  the Championship and rivals our last successful manager in the hairgel stakes .

Can only be a winner , No ? 

what's wrong with arsene wenger? this sort of thread makes me laugh!

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I've read this thread through as though I was a fly on the wall in an old school football club board meeting.  It made it at least comical.

 

 

I don't really understand it, OP.  

Errr, yes? I think it's a good idea; we should approach Phil Brown.

What now then mate?

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In even the smug, detestful, voice of Will from the inbetweeners "No, no we facking shouldnt". 

Honestly has to rank as one of the worst suggestions. Rather have a combo of Ched Evans and Nile Ranger.  

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3 hours ago, djb6162 said:

So as you would expect, southend are playing in the image of their manager.

well organised at the back

in your face and big and strong

bullying teams in L1 at the moment.

Certainly did that against Fleetwood recently.

two best in forms teams in the laegue at present.

only fleetwoods fitness at the end got them out of jail.

imo he will get them into the playoffs

 

i watched them in L2 last year as well, and they did the same, im not sure though how effective that will be in the championship though, he will need to adjust their style of play i think.

but he is demonstrating he knows how to handle the various tiers of English football.

but all credit to him and a good shout major 

 

He isn't. It's easy to handle League two - don't get overrun. As for league one: don't get overrun and show some: even very little, technique and top12 beckons. 

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10 minutes ago, 29AR said:

He isn't. It's easy to handle League two - don't get overrun. As for league one: don't get overrun and show some: even very little, technique and top12 beckons. 

Easy eh! But what if the other 23 teams have also figured out this highly technical magic formula?!

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15 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said:

Out of interest 29 - What have you so strongly against him ?

Honestly... he is bat-shit loco, he is everything we are moving away from, he is unreliable, he has found his level, he won't do us any good PR wise, his success at this level - like LJ (if he had any) was built upon a loan striker.

Honestly I think he is absolute turd. I would say I mean no disrepsect to lower league sides but one man can seriously make a difference - we bought O'Dowda...

He'd need a lot more creds before even as a league one side I'd consider him. 

Not saying I would stick with LJ, but if his CV found my inbox I'd be making paper aeroplanes with it. I'd rehire SC in and instant over him. 

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5 minutes ago, Kibs said:

Easy eh! But what if the other 23 teams have also figured out this highly technical magic formula?!

They definitely have, IMO. League two is pot luck of who can keep their star player fit enough, long enough. See O'Dowda, or Roofe... or see how popular Appleton is as a potential replacement.. 

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8 minutes ago, 29AR said:

Honestly... he is bat-shit loco, he is everything we are moving away from, he is unreliable, he has found his level, he won't do us any good PR wise, his success at this level - like LJ was built upon a loan striker. Honestly I think he is absolute turd. I would not say I mean no disrepsect to lower league sides but one man can seriously make a difference. He'd need a lot more creds before even as a league one side I'd consider him. 

Not saying I would stick with LJ, but if his cV found my inbox I'd be making paper aeroplanes with it. I'd rehire SC in and instant over him. 

Thanks for replying 

Put my cards on the table , I spent a fair few hours and occasions in his company a few years back as he set out on his post playing career

One of the nicest friendliest, funniest blokes I've ever met - Great company and totally genuine

Thats all ok but as regards to his passion , and knowledge of football , both at a high level I promise.

Ive seen him 'coach' a First Team and thought his sessions were really good

The only thing I can't give an insight to is his day to day managerial capabilities / suitability as he was just setting out - My opinion of him is largely from personal experience together with his managerial record

Would he be a good fit for us ? - As I've said , not so sure , I'd see him more as a 'traditional manager type' , a good motivator who wouldn't over complicate things tactically

Not an obvious fit into our project but a proper football bloke , knowledgable , and a cracking fella in my experience and all I saw of him

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3 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said:

Thanks for replying 

Put my cards on the table , I spent a fair few hours and occasions in his company a few years back as he set out on his post playing career

One of the nicest friendliest, funniest blokes I've ever met - Great company and totally genuine

Thats all ok but as regards to his passion , and knowledge of football , both at a high level I promise.

Ive seen him 'coach' a First Team and thought his sessions were really good

The only thing I can't give an insight to is his day to day managerial capabilities / suitability as he was just setting out - My opinion of him is largely from personal experience together with his managerial record

Would he be a good fit for us ? - As I've said , not so sure , I'd see him more as a 'traditional manager type' , a good motivator who wouldn't over complicate things tactically

Not an obvious fit into our project but a proper football bloke , knowledgable , and a cracking fella in my experience and all I saw of him

I think I edited during your post. I accept all of that. But.. and the biggest but, I think his success at this level is not down to him but down to Frazier Campbell (see Tammy) or Jimmy Bullard. 

Personally I think he is as deficient as what we have in charge. He certainly is not someone I'd fire for at this juncture.

I may be doing him a disservice but LJ could also be good company and talk a good game. I'd need a bigger draw to fire for than him right now. 

LJ would have lost his job by now if I'm making decisions, but if they were horses I'd feel my money was better backing LJ. 

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the bloke thought he could sort out Nile Ranger for instance. 

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20 minutes ago, 29AR said:

I think I edited during your post. I accept all of that. But.. and the biggest but, I think his success at this level is not down to him but down to Frazier Campbell (see Tammy) or Jimmy Bullard. 

Personally I think he is as deficient as what we have in charge. He certainly is not someone I'd fire for at this juncture.

I may be doing him a disservice but LJ could also be good company and talk a good game. I'd need a bigger draw to fire for than him right now. 

LJ would have lost his job by now if I'm making decisions, but if they were horses I'd feel my money was better backing LJ. 

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the bloke thought he could sort out Nile Ranger for instance. 

Fair points and I'd agree that he's far from 'proven' at this level despite Hull

Wouldn't be desperatlely keen on him here as I said I don't think the 'fit' would be right but At present time I Would take him before LJ that's for sure (Make it clear I'm not suggesting we should Head hunt him)

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On 17/02/2017 at 19:16, Alessandro said:

How is Wes getting on at Fleetwood? Settling in?

Seen his name a few times in the line ups? Hope it's a success for him.

Hi thanks for asking

hes got an ankle injury at the moment, hopefully back next week 

shame really as he was just getting to match fitness

 

team on a great run and puching above their weight 

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9 minutes ago, djb6162 said:

Hi thanks for asking

hes got an ankle injury at the moment, hopefully back next week 

shame really as he was just getting to match fitness

 

team on a great run and puching above their weight 

Errrr...do they have a good manager/coach that supports youth development......?

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On 17/02/2017 at 14:29, richwwtk said:

If City really have to approach other managers whilst we still have a very much employed manager here, you would hope that they would at least be an improvement on the incumbent.

Phil Brown is not such an improvement.

Well as a manager he's promoted Southend after taking them to the play offs two seasons running and he kept Hull City in the championship when they were looking like going down and then took them into the premier league the next season. He subsequently kept Hull in the top tier after their first season.

And he was Sam Allardyce's number two when Bolton were promoted to the premier league - so he's very much an improvement - how can you say that isn't a better record than LJ's?!

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I don't really want Phil Brown, but if we lose to Fulham and he was the only alternative to sticking with LJ, I think I'd take the chance on him.

Only other thing I'd say is, if you'd started a thread back in early 2014 with the question "Should we approach Steve Cotterill?", I suspect the answers would be similar to those seen here.

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1 hour ago, ChippenhamRed said:

I don't really want Phil Brown, but if we lose to Fulham and he was the only alternative to sticking with LJ, I think I'd take the chance on him.

Only other thing I'd say is, if you'd started a thread back in early 2014 with the question "Should we approach Steve Cotterill?", I suspect the answers would be similar to those seen here.

At least I could've told people Cotterill wasn't a long ball merchant, like most people thought he was.  I wasn't on here then.

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On 17/02/2017 at 14:29, richwwtk said:

If City really have to approach other managers whilst we still have a very much employed manager here, you would hope that they would at least be an improvement on the incumbent.

Phil Brown is not such an improvement.

Interesting stat tonight, Southend (currently 0-2 up vs Posh) haven't lost an away game since October 2016...Phil Brown, 'not an improvement'....

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