where's the joy Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 we have tried being patient, supportive, loyal, tolerant and plain benign. and still the results have been dire. so bugger that its time to be howling and wailing, venting our collective spleen, on the manager and teams case, screaming and hectoring, bawling, gnashing and biting, i won't see my team go down without a fight and if that means we fight the boards inertia and berate our manager then i don't care. its shapeless, hapless, hopeless football we are being asked to watch and i don't think anything will improve unless something snaps. it will boil over at home to burton when we find that one striker at home isn't enough to threaten the opponents goal and i for one can't wait.because something will break at last most successful team in britain? chelsea and look how often they fire their manager and go and hire someone better. if we love little lee so much leave him in post but ask alex ferguson to come in and throw some teacups around. jut bring someone better in who knows what he is doing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Totally get where you are coming from and I agree with 99% of it, but Chelsea the most successful club in Britain? No way. Rangers, Man Utd and Liverpool will all argue with that....and even Everton have won the top div in England loads more times than Chelsea ever have... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milo1111 Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 10 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Totally get where you are coming from and I agree with 99% of it, but Chelsea the most successful club in Britain? No way. Rangers, Man Utd and Liverpool will all argue with that....and even Everton have won the top div in England loads more times than Chelsea ever have... I think the OP was referring to the modern era with chelsea comment. Re: the main jist of the post i totally agree. I said a few weeks back that just like voters get the govt they deserve perhaps we have got the manager we deserve as too many of our fans were too apathetic or just too blinded to see this car crash coming weeks ago. One or two shot me down for saying that but i stand by it. Weeks back people started threads suggesting demos and such alike and were also shot down. Perhaps if things had got uglier early we wouldnt be in the mess we are now in. It was clear LJ was done here after the cardiff and reading capitulations and certainly after he did the 8 in a row. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolskRed Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 45 minutes ago, where's the joy said: we have tried being patient, supportive, loyal, tolerant and plain benign. and still the results have been dire. so bugger that its time to be howling and wailing, venting our collective spleen, on the manager and teams case, screaming and hectoring, bawling, gnashing and biting, i won't see my team go down without a fight and if that means we fight the boards inertia and berate our manager then i don't care. its shapeless, hapless, hopeless football we are being asked to watch and i don't think anything will improve unless something snaps. it will boil over at home to burton when we find that one striker at home isn't enough to threaten the opponents goal and i for one can't wait.because something will break at last most successful team in britain? chelsea and look how often they fire their manager and go and hire someone better. if we love little lee so much leave him in post but ask alex ferguson to come in and throw some teacups around. jut bring someone better in who knows what he is doing Or maybe we could use all that energy to get behind the team and hopefully see us beat Burton? After all surely the main thing on Saturday is the result and maybe not berating the manager/owner/club in general? I am sure if we go down there will be plenty of time for that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weymouth red Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 I think the time has come ! We are the club and we deserve better than this we are going down with a whimper we need someone who can put some belief back in the team and it's not Johnson . So I'm for action Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abraham Romanovich Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 20 minutes ago, milo1111 said: I think the OP was referring to the modern era with chelsea comment. Re: the main jist of the post i totally agree. I said a few weeks back that just like voters get the govt they deserve perhaps we have got the manager we deserve as too many of our fans were too apathetic or just too blinded to see this car crash coming weeks ago. One or two shot me down for saying that but i stand by it. Weeks back people started threads suggesting demos and such alike and were also shot down. Perhaps if things had got uglier early we wouldnt be in the mess we are now in. It was clear LJ was done here after the cardiff and reading capitulations and certainly after he did the 8 in a row. Totally agree LJ has been a dead man walking for weeks - a record breaking win of losses should have resulted in a far more toxic atmosphere - now it is too late and we only have ourselves to blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firstdivision Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 If you want us to lose on Saturday, then howl from the first minute to the last; if you want us to win, get behind the team because in my experience that generally works a bit better. If Burton score first or it's 0-0 for ages, stay behind the team. If we lose, then be my guest...howl all you like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weymouth red Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Yes I think we all are behind the team Saturday but something needs to be done! This man has split the fans like never known before he is deluded and will not back down so he needs a push now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milo1111 Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 17 minutes ago, PolskRed said: Or maybe we could use all that energy to get behind the team and hopefully see us beat Burton? After all surely the main thing on Saturday is the result and maybe not berating the manager/owner/club in general? I am sure if we go down there will be plenty of time for that? Buts thats the whole thing we are saying here. Its this sort of attitude that has brought us to this situation. In other words by not applying enough/any pressure to SL and LJ we have allowed this situation to fester and go south. I respect where you are coming from and in normal circumstances this attitude would have plenty of merit but this pathetic run we have been on for months is not normal circumstance. Our only hope is that he goes very soon. And months of people trying to stay positive has achieved **** all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Ok I get the points about LJ and believe he should've been relieved of his job after the Forest game. It's interesting to see people wanting to go after the board after they've finished with the manager when the players get away almost Scott free. They show absolutely no guts at all in matches . This squad was assembled costing more than any other squad in our history , our wage bill is our highest ever. Not earning the wage. Effort not good enough. Lacking a Gerry Gow or a Shaun Taylor . They are a disgrace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolskRed Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 15 minutes ago, milo1111 said: Buts thats the whole thing we are saying here. Its this sort of attitude that has brought us to this situation. In other words by not applying enough/any pressure to SL and LJ we have allowed this situation to fester and go south. I respect where you are coming from and in normal circumstances this attitude would have plenty of merit but this pathetic run we have been on for months is not normal circumstance. Our only hope is that he goes very soon. And months of people trying to stay positive has achieved **** all. Yes but has the attitude of OP changed anything? As it seems to be the manager that people have a problem with and not the players, shouldn't the supporters think what the players would prefer during the duration of the game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milo1111 Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 2 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said: We havent tried getting behind the team at any home games this season, perhaps that might help just a little I know AG hasnt exactly been a cauldron. But I thought the support was decent before this run started and not too bad for quite a few games into it. Their certainly hasnt been any booing until recently. The team have to give the fans something to get behind mind. I'd imagine most crowds around the country wouldnt be roaring their support whilst their team surrenders a 2 goal lead at home to reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milo1111 Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 2 minutes ago, PolskRed said: Yes but has the attitude of OP changed anything? As it seems to be the manager that people have a problem with and not the players, shouldn't the supporters think what the players would prefer during the duration of the game? Fair point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 17 minutes ago, shelts said: Ok I get the points about LJ and believe he should've been relieved of his job after the Forest game. It's interesting to see people wanting to go after the board after they've finished with the manager when the players get away almost Scott free. They show absolutely no guts at all in matches . This squad was assembled costing more than any other squad in our history , our wage bill is our highest ever. Not earning the wage. Effort not good enough. Lacking a Gerry Gow or a Shaun Taylor . They are a disgrace Great post. The players- and not for the first time- are shocking in that sense. Shocking- they get off very lightly and different groups of players have been similar under other past managers. Not that the decision to get rid of the managers was wrong but always the players- at this club- get off very lightly. Is a bit of a symptom of the modern game too though- I read just lately that Messi wanted rid of the manager at Barcelona and rid of 3 players- one of the best 2 players in the world he is it is not his decision to make. Back to ourt club though the players often seem to escape their share of the blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 41 minutes ago, firstdivision said: If you want us to lose on Saturday, then howl from the first minute to the last; if you want us to win, get behind the team because in my experience that generally works a bit better. If Burton score first or it's 0-0 for ages, stay behind the team. If we lose, then be my guest...howl all you like. So what about the last 5 months , have we as fans not supported the team as a rule . And yet here we are out of the bottom 3 on goal difference praying for a result against Burton...Burton ffs, so you will have to excuse me if I tell little Lee and Stubborn Steve exactly what I think about the absolute cluster **** of a season. But feel free to sit in your seat and tut tut me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 I have to agree with the OP. If we don't win on Saturday I shall direct my most furious glare at the dugout. I may even remove LJ from my Christmas card list! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Given where we are and the quality of football that's been dished up, unity is now little more than a theme cooked up by the club to keep a lid on things. Get vocal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 6 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said: I have to agree with the OP. If we don't win on Saturday I shall direct my most furious glare at the dugout. I may even remove LJ from my Christmas card list! I'm going to write a sternly worded post on an anonymous internet message board. Might even swear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gert Mare Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 I think the problem lies with the sheer amount of accumulated dust at Ashton Gate. Do you know the amount of times that the players have had to 'dust themselves off and go again' according to LJ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 16 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said: I have to agree with the OP. If we don't win on Saturday I shall direct my most furious glare at the dugout. I may even remove LJ from my Christmas card list! ...and take him off the top of your Christmas tree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gert Mare Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Cassette boy vs Lee Johnson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin101 Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Peronsally I feel the recent months have been incredibly divisive. First Brexit, then Trump. I for one am enjoying being part of a united community again. A community of Bristol City fans united in misery and resentment. We're back to our best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Original OTIB Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 13 minutes ago, Cheesleysmate said: Cassette boy vs Lee Johnson Unnatural Players in Unnatural Positions? Classic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Even if we're winning against Burton we need to show SL we NEED Johnson Out. Against Newcastle everyone was singing Bounce Around The Ground, couldn't believe it, so fickle, he needs to go no matter what happens!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddoh Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 41 minutes ago, Red-Robbo said: I have to agree with the OP. If we don't win on Saturday I shall direct my most furious glare at the dugout. I may even remove LJ from my Christmas card list! Please can we have a photo of your most furious glare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 3 minutes ago, reddoh said: Please can we have a photo of your most furious glare I daren't. It'll curdle milk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddoh Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 Just now, Red-Robbo said: I daren't. It'll curdle milk. that's fine don't drink milk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich_s Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 1 hour ago, weymouth red said: I think the time has come ! We are the club and we deserve better than this we are going down with a whimper we need someone who can put some belief back in the team and it's not Johnson . So I'm for action Danny Wilson it is then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 2 hours ago, where's the joy said: we have tried being patient, supportive, loyal, tolerant and plain benign. and still the results have been dire. so bugger that its time to be howling and wailing, venting our collective spleen, on the manager and teams case, screaming and hectoring, bawling, gnashing and biting, i won't see my team go down without a fight and if that means we fight the boards inertia and berate our manager then i don't care. its shapeless, hapless, hopeless football we are being asked to watch and i don't think anything will improve unless something snaps. it will boil over at home to burton when we find that one striker at home isn't enough to threaten the opponents goal and i for one can't wait.because something will break at last most successful team in britain? chelsea and look how often they fire their manager and go and hire someone better. if we love little lee so much leave him in post but ask alex ferguson to come in and throw some teacups around. jut bring someone better in who knows what he is doing I'm not clear. Do you want us to win or lose on Saturday? Would you really rather be Chelsea than Bristol City? I confess I wouldn't. I'd rather be supporting a team with whom I can identify in the bl**dy Conference, than be a supporter of Chelski, Man City or any of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 1 hour ago, PolskRed said: Yes but has the attitude of OP changed anything? As it seems to be the manager that people have a problem with and not the players, shouldn't the supporters think what the players would prefer during the duration of the game? I would prefer the players to try harder and concentrate a little more rather than hide behind a failing manager. 90 minutes please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
where's the joy Posted March 2, 2017 Author Share Posted March 2, 2017 we've tried cheering the team to the rafters and it doesn't work, we are still cr*p so badger the life out of the team and try tough love instead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 5 hours ago, JamesBCFC said: We havent tried getting behind the team at any home games this season, perhaps that might help just a little That's not true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 That's not true either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Peter1450 Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 4 hours ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: I'm not clear. Do you want us to win or lose on Saturday? Would you really rather be Chelsea than Bristol City? I confess I wouldn't. I'd rather be supporting a team with whom I can identify in the bl**dy Conference, than be a supporter of Chelski, Man City or any of them. But how many of the fans really identify with the current crop of under achieving millionaires playing for club? The little snowflakes must be hurting terribly when they jump into their executive motors and back to their plush homes when joe blogs has to jump on the 75 after watching them get spanked yet again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRed Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 5 hours ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: I'm not clear. Do you want us to win or lose on Saturday? Would you really rather be Chelsea than Bristol City? I confess I wouldn't. I'd rather be supporting a team with whom I can identify in the bl**dy Conference, than be a supporter of Chelski, Man City or any of them. We're putting up with the same corporate bullshit but looking at 3rd division football, we've got the worst of both worlds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
where's the joy Posted March 4, 2017 Author Share Posted March 4, 2017 no polite applause today, no holding back, we have cheered you lot to the rafters and look where it got us so full bore 'on the teams case' from the beginning, bolo** them senseless and see if that works cos all this unity malarkey has got us nowhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 Possibly the most negative OP I have seen. "I love it!!" tfj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDOXO Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 On March 2, 2017 at 07:43, weymouth red said: Yes I think we all are behind the team Saturday but something needs to be done! This man has split the fans like never known before he is deluded and will not back down so he needs a push now If split means 90% want him gone and 10% don't then I'm with you. Yes he should be gone regardless. But a win is s huge today! COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
where's the joy Posted March 4, 2017 Author Share Posted March 4, 2017 remember the poll tax riots and the smell of cordite in the air. no one got hurt but the message got across. the manager has to lead his team and we wish to express our deep anger at the obvious lack of leadership so read the riot act with our team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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