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Super

Super

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2 hours ago, Neo said:

I think it's racist to assume black people are bigger.

I only have one leg but nobody notices.

It's a myth.

downendcity

downendcity

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3 hours ago, Neo said:

I think it's racist to assume black people are bigger.

I only have one leg but nobody notices.

Ian Botham said that in the Somerset dressing room  he once asked Joel Garner if it was true that the size of a black guy's "manhood" was directly proportional to his height.

"Oh no". replied Garner, "cause that would mean I'd have to be 10' 6" tall!" 

Wanderingred

Wanderingred

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Perhaps instead of doing the usual " left wing saint" thing and taking offence on behalf of other people, they could execise common sense and actually ask Lukaku (or indeed any black person on this planet) if the chant offends them?

It isn't even racial stereotyping because black people do indeed have on average bigger manhoods than white men.

Super

Super

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17 minutes ago, Eddie Hitler said:

I have absolutely zero idea what they're singing.

You guys have clearly taken nightschool classes in speaking northern.

Romelu Lukaku He's our Belgium scoring genius He's got a 24inch p***s Scoring all the goals bellend to his toes

RedJim

RedJim

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I don't find it particularly offensive, myself. BUT the usual shouts of 'it's political correctness gone mad' are so predictable - in fact I see that phrase or the like spewed all the time on this forum. At the end of the day, they are chanting this purely because of the colour of his skin, aren't they - and is that right? I don't believe so. 

The Dolman Pragmatist

The Dolman Pragmatist

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Of course it's racist. 

38 minutes ago, Wanderingred said:

Perhaps instead of doing the usual " left wing saint" thing and taking offence on behalf of other people, they could execise common sense and actually ask Lukaku (or indeed any black person on this planet) if the chant offends them?

It isn't even racial stereotyping because black people do indeed have on average bigger manhoods than white men.

Oh Jesus, have I really read this post?  You are really saying that assuming a black man has an above-average sized penis is not racial stereotyping?  Could there possibly be a more clear example of racial stereotyping??  I'm sorry, but my mind is truly blown by this thread.

Of course the song is racist.  It attributes a particular characteristic based purely on race.  How can it not be racist?

Eddie Hitler

Eddie Hitler

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1 hour ago, RedJim said:

I don't find it particularly offensive, myself. BUT the usual shouts of 'it's political correctness gone mad' are so predictable - in fact I see that phrase or the like spewed all the time on this forum. At the end of the day, they are chanting this purely because of the colour of his skin, aren't they - and is that right? I don't believe so. 

Really?  I don't recall it being chanted at Junior Bent.

If he reads your post he'll get a complex.

Esmond Million's Bung

Esmond Million's Bung

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1 hour ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said:

Of course it's racist. 

Oh Jesus, have I really read this post?  You are really saying that assuming a black man has an above-average sized penis is not racial stereotyping?  Could there possibly be a more clear example of racial stereotyping??  I'm sorry, but my mind is truly blown by this thread.

Of course the song is racist.  It attributes a particular characteristic based purely on race.  How can it not be racist?

The song is about one single person nobody else, so if he isn't bothered by it how can it possibly be racist?, a football chant doesn't have to be true, otherwise 99.9% of fans are committing fraud because their team are not the greatest team my eyes have ever seen.

Come back when Lukaku is outraged about the song because it is solely about him and nobody else, he is specifically named in the song.

RedJim

RedJim

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21 minutes ago, Eddie Hitler said:

Really?  I don't recall it being chanted at Junior Bent.

If he reads your post he'll get a complex.

You've lost me there. What's Junior Bent got to do it? It doesn't have to be chanted at every black player for it to have racial connotations. 

RedJim

RedJim

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6 minutes ago, Flagon said:

Didn't see many people worrying about Lee Peacock's feed the cock and he will score

Did the song mention his 24-inch member?

redpole

redpole

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So if it was sung about marlon pack it would be fine. For example change it to.

marlon pack...oh marlon pack, he is city's midfield genius with his 5-6inch penis .

B1ackbird

B1ackbird

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6 minutes ago, Super said:

So if the song was about fellaini would it be ok?

"Now Fellani has a Donkey that everyone admired, temperarally lazy and perminanely tired..."

:blink:

Super

Super

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4 minutes ago, redpole said:

So if it was sung about marlon pack it would be fine. For example change it to.

marlon pack...oh marlon pack, he is city's midfield genius with his 5-6inch penis .

Little Marlon

cider-manc

cider-manc

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1 hour ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said:

Of course it's racist. 

Oh Jesus, have I really read this post?  You are really saying that assuming a black man has an above-average sized penis is not racial stereotyping?  Could there possibly be a more clear example of racial stereotyping??  I'm sorry, but my mind is truly blown by this thread.

Of course the song is racist.  It attributes a particular characteristic based purely on race.  How can it not be racist?

Whilst I agree that using a strict definition this is racism - Racism is usually presented in a derogatory or discriminate manner. I don't think you can suggest this is aimed as either of those. But I guess it depends on if you think having a 24 inch penis is a good or bad thing.

To be honest i find it amusing that this has been picked up upon when for the last decade the Old Trafford crowd has sung songs about Park Ji Sug eating dogs.

wesco

wesco

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When I read this article it did make me think how people would react these days to the song about Steve Jones. 

Clubs seem to be changing their position on chanting and I think we will see more intervention from clubs and organisations when songs are not seen to be politically correct. 

WTFiGO!?!

WTFiGO!?!

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Well Romelu can always communicate his own feelings in person.

I suggest the best way of doing this is when the next time he scores a goal he does the 'Helicopter' if he doesn't like it and his normal routine if he does.

We can then know and continue merrily with our lives.

WTFiGO!?!

WTFiGO!?!

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24 minutes ago, B1ackbird said:

Gareth Keenen: "it's true, I'll bring in a magazine if you want.."

Brenty: "It's a compliment if anything".

Lorenzos Only Goal

Lorenzos Only Goal

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Its just a bit of fun, and for those that don't get it, meh, and thanks to the male obsession with penis size there are plenty of scientific studies.

But just for fun DR Congo of which Lukaku's family comes from, turns out in most studies as and average penis size of 7+ inches one of the larger sizes and where as the UK is an average of 5.5 a monster difference.  Science people science :D there you go you no longer have to assume.  And don't ask me for the studies you can litter your google search history with that question if it bothers you ;)

RaspberryRed

RaspberryRed

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1 hour ago, WTFiGO!?! said:

Well Romelu can always communicate his own feelings in person.

I suggest the best way of doing this is when the next time he scores a goal he does the 'Helicopter' if he doesn't like it and his normal routine if he does.

We can then know and continue merrily with our lives.

WOW I'm never gonna be able to look at Bobby Reid's new 'Fire Extinguisher' Goal GIF in the same light :blush:

Phileas Fogg

Phileas Fogg

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2 hours ago, redpole said:

So if it was sung about marlon pack it would be fine. For example change it to.

marlon pack...oh marlon pack, he is city's midfield genius with his 5-6inch penis .

Sounds class - can't wait to hear that ringing round the Gate tonight.

Kingswood Robin

Kingswood Robin

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Is it racist stereotyping (according to Kick It Out), or racial stereotyping. A subtle difference I think. Stereotyping (or accentuating a person or group of peoples characteristics) has long been the source of some great comedy. How many comedians have discussed being brought up in a Jewish home, or a Catholic or Muslim home. The TV programme Goodness Gracious Me used all kinds of Asian stereotypes to good affect. I thought the Asian group visiting a British restaurant and asking for the blandest thing on the menu, very funny. Not the slightest bit offensive because there was no nasty intent. For me that's what it's all about, intent. It's always simply Racist, Sexist and any other "ists", with never any consideration given to intent.

Anyway, some information that might separate fact and fiction below..........    

Incorrectly fitting condoms is an important factor in condom failure worldwide.

As a result, the World Health Organization created size guidelines for the condoms shipped to certain regions. These measurements are based on three studies that indicate that African men require slightly longer and wider condoms, Caucasian men require medium condoms and Asian men require shorter and slightly narrower condoms.

Wanderingred

Wanderingred

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4 hours ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said:

Of course it's racist. 

Oh Jesus, have I really read this post?  You are really saying that assuming a black man has an above-average sized penis is not racial stereotyping?  Could there possibly be a more clear example of racial stereotyping??  I'm sorry, but my mind is truly blown by this thread.

Of course the song is racist.  It attributes a particular characteristic based purely on race.  How can it not be racist?

Woah there, no need for the overreaction!

I do take your point that the penis size part of the chant is due to the fact that Lukaku is black.. so technically I guess it is racial stereotyping in the driest sense even if statistics clearly show that black men do indeed have bigger dicks!

However racism by definition in the dictionary states:prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.

Sometimes common sense and context needs to applied to these kind of situations. Is there malice involved from those chanting? Does Lukaku or any other black person feel antagonised or intimidated by the chant? Is it likely to spread hate or ignorance in any way? If the answer to any of these questions is yes, then of course I believe it should be banned... But I just can't see it.  So I don't think it's racist - In my opinion of course.

 

Taz

Taz

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3 hours ago, Super said:

So if the song was about fellaini would it be ok?

They're singing about a cock, not actually calling him a cock....

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Maesknoll

Maesknoll

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I'm losing the will to live, how sad and unfulfilled are the lives of these people who find a childish ditty offensive.  We are heading down a dangerous road of no one being able to express an opinion or have some banter that doesn't fit in narrow socially acceptable guidelines, how long before we get citizens reporting each other to the authorities for thought crime...... looks like Orwells vision was right, he was just 40 years out on the date!

One Team In Keynsham

One Team In Keynsham

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14 minutes ago, Vespa Red said:

On a slightly related note, who was the meanest, who sucked a horses manhood and was a horses backside?

I never did understand why being bad-spirited lead to equine fellatio and was synonymous with being the hind quarters of said animal.

Northern Red

Northern Red

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46 minutes ago, Phileas Fogg said:

Was there the same fuss with the Park Ji-Sung eating dog song they used to sing a few years back? Exactly the same situation as this 

Edit - a quick Google search indicates not. Interesting.

Nope, nor 'he comes from Serbia, he'll f*****g murder ya' that they had for Vidic.

Phileas Fogg

Phileas Fogg

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5 minutes ago, Northern Red said:

Nope, nor 'he comes from Serbia, he'll f*****g murder ya' that they had for Vidic.

Interesting that, are we even more PC than 6 or 7 years ago then?

Or is it more acceptable to be 'racist' or stereotype Asians than Black people? 

I would say the Ji-Sung Park is far more potentially offensive, on the face of it, than Lukaku's. Korean people really dislike that stereotype. 

 

shelts

shelts

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8 hours ago, Wanderingred said:

t isn't even racial stereotyping because black people do indeed have on average bigger manhoods than white men.

Studies or experience ?

Esmond Million's Bung

Esmond Million's Bung

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I am very interested to know people’s views on the following.

Last week Diane Abbott was on ITV’s good morning Britain talking about the increase in racist comments made personally about her presumably on social media and during the election and it was obviously harrowing for her and she said that she had been called the ’N’ word but then actually said the word on live TV.

After Diane Abbott had said the ’N’ word presenter Susanna Reid said "Obviously people listening to those abusive terms will also be upset by them, you've received them directly.

"We can't broadcast them obviously on the programme at this time in the morning.”

Bearing in mind that Diane Abbott was repeating a word that she had been called and to then be called out on this by Susannah Reid I feel is ridiculous beyond belief and for once felt really sorry for Ms Abbott it wasn’t the ‘C’ word for instance.

Fast forward to Saturday night on the Really TV channel who are doing a retrospective of Fawlty Towers and just before the infamous episode where the Major talking about cricket and not only utters the ’N’ word but also the ‘W’  word there is warning along the lines of “this episode contains language considered ok for TV on the date it was broadcast".

At the time I had two thoughts, firstly I suspect very few comedy writers would be afforded the opportunity to have that episode continually aired in this day age and secondly that pathetic warning hardly warned people who haven’t seen this particular episode of Fawlty Towers of exactly what to expect, for instance possibly the aforementioned Mr Lukaku for one.

I fully understand the context and John Cleese’s nod to Mel Brooks and Blazing Saddles but I can’t help thinking that the double standards applied by TV is mystifying.

City Rocker

City Rocker

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10 hours ago, Lorenzos Only Goal said:

Its just a bit of fun, and for those that don't get it, meh, and thanks to the male obsession with penis size there are plenty of scientific studies.

But just for fun DR Congo of which Lukaku's family comes from, turns out in most studies as and average penis size of 7+ inches one of the larger sizes and where as the UK is an average of 5.5 a monster difference.  Science people science :D there you go you no longer have to assume.  And don't ask me for the studies you can litter your google search history with that question if it bothers you ;)

Is that all? *searches for smug emoticon* :banana:

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